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    20 second "Welcome" status after inputting Windows Password?

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by derventa, Aug 9, 2010.

  1. derventa

    derventa Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've disabled a bunch of stuff to not bootup during the start up, but even after doing all this, I constantly get an extra 20+ seconds of "Welcome" load screen before it comes to the desktop.

    Im running a HDD and not a SSD if this matters.

    Is this normal?
     
  2. MLM0351

    MLM0351 Notebook Geek

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    No, I have the same hdd as you and i get pretty quick boots. Granted 5-8 seconds after password entry to pulling up a web page is really fast for me. And I haven't disabled anything "Alienware" on the thing yet lol. to afraid it will konk out on me.
     
  3. kiwidaniel

    kiwidaniel Notebook Consultant

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    hmm i have the same problem. it doesnt really bother me cause once is it open everything loads fast.
     
  4. mbrinton91

    mbrinton91 Notebook Geek

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    I'm in the same boat as ^ and the OP. Let's hope one of the computer geniuses who roam this thread happen along and see this and enlighten us on why this is happening :p
     
  5. Radam

    Radam Notebook Geek

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    I noticed this when I first got it as well, and I still haven't been able to figure out why. I was thinking of reinstalling, but it does load up pretty fast after that screen is gone.
     
  6. derventa

    derventa Notebook Enthusiast

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    Everything else runs smoothly despite the slow bootup
     
  7. corwinicre

    corwinicre Notebook Deity

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    It's under 10 seconds for me from entering the password to showing the desktop (with a 7200rpm hd).

    For those of you with the 20 second time, do you have the Alienware programs installed? I do not.
     
  8. sagman76

    sagman76 Notebook Consultant

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    I am anywhere between 15-30 seconds! glad im not the only one. As mbrinton91 states hopefully someone will help us out with this slow boot time!

    Out of interest can you stop all alienware stuff in the start up?
    I have stopped fatrayalert as per optimization thread from Batboy but what about

    Yes HKLM:Run AlienwareOn-ScreenDisplay C:\Program Files (x86)\Alienware On-Screen Display\AlienwareOn-ScreenDisplay.exe

    Yes HKLM:Run AlienFX Controller "C:\Program Files\Alienware\Command Center\AlienwareAlienFXController.exe"

    I have had a look through various threads but cant seem to find whats essential and whats not

    thanks
     
  9. kiwidaniel

    kiwidaniel Notebook Consultant

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    ^^^ i have also turned off windows indexing ? :/ maybe this affects the boot screen?
     
  10. Kurble

    Kurble Notebook Enthusiast

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    I suppose you went for the stock build including 160gb 5400 RPM drive huh?

    5400 RPM is a lot slower than 7200...
     
  11. kiwidaniel

    kiwidaniel Notebook Consultant

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    i went for a 500gb 7200 RPM. i have the 20 second bootup..
     
  12. Kurble

    Kurble Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh ok, well then. I'm out of ideas :/
     
  13. slickie88

    slickie88 Master of Puppets

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    Indexing isn't going to be running during boot up or loading the desktop. It's optimized to pause all indexing whenever there's high disk I/O.
     
  14. Character Zero

    Character Zero Notebook Evangelist

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    Are we talking about the Welcome screen after a reboot, or after sleep? After a boot, it takes around 20 seconds, maybe less. After coming up from sleep it takes only a few seconds to get to the desktop.
     
  15. mwaldron

    mwaldron Notebook Geek

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    You haven't joined your m11x to a Domain have you? I've seen this behavior before in that circumstance, it's fairly common.
     
  16. derventa

    derventa Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can you explain?
     
  17. Radam

    Radam Notebook Geek

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    I have not joined my to a domain, and the problem still persists :( My old laptop almost loads past the welcome screen faster!
     
  18. derventa

    derventa Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I still haven't found a solution to this problem. It's not even 20 seconds, its more like 30 seconds....
     
  19. EvilTchnlgy

    EvilTchnlgy Notebook Guru

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    When I first was moving between the stock hard drive and a new drive I managed to corrupt my ntuser.dat file. It made the load times rediculous and fills up your log viewer if you check it out.
    I simply enabled the global admin account, deleted all of my accounts, and remade them and saw my post-password load times drop from ~45 seconds to ~5 seconds

    Note, that will only actually help the speed at loading the desktop if you managed to somehow do the same as I in corrupting your user profile
     
  20. derventa

    derventa Notebook Enthusiast

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    Still looking for help
     
  21. unreal25

    unreal25 Capt. Obvious

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    I have the same "issue", but I can't offer any solution. I've been playing with this actually for quite a while, doing drive images then restoring back and trying to see why it does that. I think it may have started once I installed Microsoft Office.

    But it doesn't bother me as I mostly use Hibernate.
     
  22. infernia

    infernia Notebook Evangelist

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    Been reading on the Microsoft technet site and got some interesting answers. It seems to be something a couple of their engineers are asking users to do Boot traces to find the issues. I saw a couple of different fixes listed. This is a knowledge base article link that has the title:
    The Welcome screen may be displayed for 30 seconds during the logon process after you set a solid color as the desktop background in Windows 7 or in Windows Server 2008 R2

    Don't know if this will help or not as I have yet to experience this issue. Back in the day, I used to have to diagnose issues like this with people who had filled their desktop with pics and music. This however is very different and is beginning to look like a bug in need of fixing.
    Another user tested these fixes and said he only had the issue occur while using the admin account. He avoided the delay by creating a user account and logging in with that account. Others said the hotfix worked until they began overclocking and benchmarking, then they were back to the same delay. Like I said this article may or may not work. At least it is a known issue and is being worked on.
     
  23. teedoff00

    teedoff00 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I would also really like to know if there is anything I can do about the 20+ second boot up. I input the password and wait on average ~30secs. Everything else seems to run pretty well.

    I have the M11x R2 i7, 4gb of ram, 250gb 7200 hard drive. I have Microsoft Office installed, Norton Antivirus 2010, Firefox and StarCraft 2. Thats pretty much it.

    If anyone has any ideas let us know!

    Thanks!
     
  24. slickie88

    slickie88 Master of Puppets

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    I've got Office 2007 installed and I'm not seeing anything like those desktop load times. Even when I had the stock 5400rpm drive I don't think it was that long.
     
  25. Rotsu

    Rotsu Notebook Consultant

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    Try this tool, it will tell you whats slowing down your boot up time.
    Soluto
     
  26. tears

    tears Notebook Evangelist

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    Well how much processes do you have going on at STARTUP? if you chop down the number of processes that occur during startup, and the amount of programs that you have on the desktop, that may help things.
     
  27. c3Rhcno

    c3Rhcno Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I never had this problem, but the first thing I did with my M11x was uninstall all the bloatware and disabled all of my startup items, apart from synaptics touchpad and my antivirus.
     
  28. sagman76

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    Try defrag'ing your hard drive! Also you could use MSConfig (type in start menu search bar) and disable all unnessasary startup items
     
  30. PSYCHOTRON

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    Cool im gonna try those utilities to check my startup. I will try Gamebooster as well. I havent timed my startup but its pretty quick, I will time it tonight.


    Update:
    I timed the welcome screen 3 separate times in a row each time it took 7 seconds.