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    Alienware M11x Crysis 2 hardware question

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by eggman100, Oct 9, 2011.

  1. eggman100

    eggman100 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi there, for my first post I just wanted to ask a question for the alienware m11x ---

    I was thinking about buying a laptop this christmas - and it was out of the:

    Xps 17 (l702x) Alienware M17x Msi gx660r & Alienware m11x

    I was wanting a good laptop for about £1100 which I can get any of the above ^ (for the price) (because of coupons)

    But my question is that what graphics setting do you think the M11x would be able to play on for crysis 2 with the below specifications?

    "Intel® Core™ i3 2357M (1.3GHz, 3MB Cache)
    English Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium (64 BIT)
    1GB DDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M
    4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048]
    250GB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
    Killer™ Wireless-N 1103 - EUR"

    Or with the: "Intel® Core™ i5 2467M 1.6GHz (3MB Cache) "

    And also can the I3 and the I5 above include the turbo boost function? - that can instantly overclock for better performance?

    If possible could someone include what FPS they think crysis 2 will play on? (Resolution: 1366x768)

    (Also, The XPS 17" includes I7-2630Qm + gt555m 3gb & 6gb ddr3 1333mhz and 1tb I-HDD <--- How much better would this be than the m11x i specified above? - with a price of £850 and the m11x being (With the I5) being £750?)


    Sorry for the long question but I really need help from you guys =) - Thanks a lot for reading =)
     
  2. Catzoo

    Catzoo Notebook Evangelist

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    The XPS will be WAY better than the M11X you're talkin' about , but also think about resolution : GT555 + 2630QM will have better FPS for sure , but at 1366*768 ... If you have a 17" with a 1920*1080 resolution ...

    If you plan on buying a laptop for gaming , you might more consider the XPS than the M11X , but it's WAY more " portable " to have an m11X ...

    btw , for 1100gbp , you can get way better than an XPS 17 , ever thought about asus one ? I bought an M11x cause it was cheap , and i wanted to have an m17X but i didn't have enough money , so i bought a G74SX from Asus , clearly in your price range and way better than the XPS imo.
     
  3. eggman100

    eggman100 Notebook Enthusiast

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    @Catzoo Thanks for replying =) - Yeah I know the XPS beats the m11x in all aspects - for the deal you get with the XPS - but the problem with it all is just that I like the m11x for what it is and how compact it is with all the ports it has and the effects it has - but it is still overpriced - and you need to buy an external cd drive - its expected but shouldnt really have to even if it is 11" - I checked the Asus you talked about but its cheapest at £1300 - I don't have that =/ - I got maximum £1100 - I just wanted to get either the m17x ( but BAD customer reviews - loads of faults and hardware support ) whereas the XPS 17 is better and you get loads of extras - but the m11x just because its really portable - nice battery life - and all the other things

    the xps 17 would have more "future-proof"-ability than the m11x i posted - but I guess I will have to see more closer the christmas time =)
     
  4. UberJason

    UberJason Notebook Consultant

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    Have you considered the M14x? I have an M11x R2 and an M14x, and I like them both, but I like the M14x better - it has much better performance and it's not too bad to carry around, either. Notably smaller than the XPS 17 or M17x.
     
  5. deadboy90

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    Catzoo Notebook Evangelist

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    A friend of mine just bought the 15" version one month ago brand new, Asus G53 ( which can Handle Crysis 2 for sure ) , 750€ ( 650 GBP ... ) you might consider searching one at that price ... At that price you can even consider taking both G53 and an M11X R1 :D
     
  7. eggman100

    eggman100 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok thanks for replying everyone =)

    My final comment would just be:

    What framerate would I expect to get whilst playing crysis 2 on high at 1366x768p with these specs (allready posted I think):

    Hi, What kind of framerate can I expect Crysis 2 on high at 1366x768p resolution with this system?:

    English Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium (64 BIT)
    Alienware M11x Stealth Black
    Intel® Core™ i5 2467M 1.6GHz (3MB Cache)
    1GB DDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 540M
    4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048]
    250GB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
    Killer™ Wireless-N 1103 - EUR
    1366x768p Resolution 11"

    R3 Version ^


    Thank you =)
     
  8. wrathofdeath

    wrathofdeath Notebook Evangelist

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    OOf,,,, with the spec u have maybe around 30???? Anyone have a more accurate response?
     
  9. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Not an Alien , but i get between 35-50fps on my GT540m at 1366x768 on Crysis 2
     
  10. eggman100

    eggman100 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for replying =) - I see the specs on your system Tinderbox, If thats the specs for your machine then thats pretty nice =) - Although I wouldn't get that because the processor im using is an I5 - not the I7-2630Qm, Although an XPS im considering has that so thanks =) ---

    Although would it be worth getting on for £750-£800 for these games with the spec that i posted - OR go with the recommendation of the XPS 17 with the first few comments, Because I like the design of the XPS but it would be stupid to go for something that is not as good when you can get something much better for a little bit more if you catch my drift?

    =)

    Thanks =) --- although what about this?:

    English Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium (64 BIT)
    2nd generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM processor 2.00 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 2.90 GHz
    17.3 FHD WLED AG (1920x1080) with 2.0 Mega Pixel Integrated Camera
    3GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 555M Graphics Card
    6144MB (1x2GB, 1x4GB) 1333MHz DDR3 Dual Channel SDRAM
    DVD+/-RW (DVD, CD read and write)
    1TB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Dual HDD - (2x500GB)
    9-cell 90Whr Lithium Ion battery
    Backlit UK/Irish Qwerty Keyboard
    Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6230 (2x2 b/g/n+ Bluetooth Combo Card)

    ^ Dell XPS L702x - I probably will get that because in cost to performance - that is the best - regardless of how "Stylish" alienwares are - the best deal is that in my opinion :p - even if the m17x has a better graphics card (GTX560 -> GT555m ((xps17))) It would still play crysis 2 at pretty high settings with a nice framerate right?

    what would be the average fps for that system?
     
  11. Tinderbox (UK)

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    Be careful some GT555M are only 128bit and not 192bit , and will only run around 10% faster than the GT540m
     
  12. eggman100

    eggman100 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ahh right =) - although, as i say what fps would i expect for that setup on high/very high? (XPS setup)
     
  13. deadboy90

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    not sure but u may want to ask over at the m14x forum
     
  14. Xaser04

    Xaser04 Notebook Consultant

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    At 1080p a GT555m is going to struggle with high settings in Crysis 2. You can probably expect similar performance at 1080p as a M11x would achieve at 1366x768 (25-35fps depending entirely on the scene in question).

    As a note the GT555m used in the XPS17 and M14x is the 144SP, 24ROP 192bit DDR3 variety and not the utter crap 96sp, 4 (yes 4) ROP, 128bit GDDR5 variety.

    You can easily tell the 192bit (144sp) part due to the 1.5/3GB memory amounts (3 memory channels (64bit each) feeding multiples of 256MB/512MB memory).

    The GT555m 2GB is the pain the model to decipher. It can either have 144sp or 96sp and is limited to 128bit memory interface only.
     
  15. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    I completely agree with Xaser. If you want to play Crysis 2 on high @ 1080p (1920x1080), you really need top of the line mobile GPu's lilke the AMD 6900 series or nvidia 580m.

    I've tried Crysis 2 on an Asus G74 @ 1080p (i7 2630, nvidia gtx 560m, 8 gigs ram) on high @1920x1080 and it was barely playable in many places.

    RECENTLY...Crysis 2 DX11 patch and ultra texture packs came out. Don't even entertain those patches on a GT555. It gives you a new "Ultra" setting in your config menus. Even on my heavily overclocked 6990m, there are places where the fps drops into to mid teens

    Crysis 2 (along with Metro 2033 and a few others) will bring a laptop to its knees. This isn't a good game to build a machine around because you're gonna end up spending serious cash

    OR

    if you're not too fussy, drop the IQ levels and screen resolution to achieve playable framerates
     
  16. deadboy90

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    people are always saying how metro 2033 is so demanding yet i play it easily at 1280X720 on medium with no problem on my r1. (I actually tuned it up to medium after I hit 70 fps on low)
     
  17. SlickDude80

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    if you turn down the IQ and resolution, games become more playable...maybe i should have been more specific. I Tried running metro 2033 at 1080P with everything turned up on my last computer (asus G73 with nvidia gtx 460m OC'ed to 560m). That's when things got scary :D

    It was a slideshow
     
  18. deadboy90

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    oh yea that would be nightmare lol
     
  19. Xaser04

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    Fraps run through please (5 minutes of actually playing the game).

    I am having a VERY hard time believeing you are hitting anywhere near 70fps even on low actually playing the game (looking at the ceiling doesn't count).

    For what it is worth I have tested Crysis 2 on my R1 and it was perfectly playable on the "High" in game setting (ironically the lowest setting available) @ 1366x768.

    I should point out though that this required both my pin mod and my max gaming GPU OC in order to achieve consistant playable framerates (30-40fps).