Alienware M11x Debut Discussion

2 hours battery life while gaming, then 3.

7,000 3dmarks then 4,000.

I want to see a review before I part with cash.

My guess is
90 battery gaming (335m)
4.5 hours on battery saving mode (Intel IGP)
1,500 points in 3dmark06 using 1.3 Ghz C2D and IGP
4,500 points in 3dmark06 using 1.3 Ghz C2D and 335m.

 

Sounds more reasonable. The higher values were "smoke" or with a (secret) CPU?

 

If thats true, Its going to turn alot of people off. I Would like to see the settings screen on the games they play before they play them. Because what they are calling "very High" settings may be relative.

Also do you really see them being able to change the chipset without delay when its supposed to release in less than a month? I think we are seeing something thats really close to the version being released.

 

I'm sure its been said in this mega thread somewhere but the only way for them to have switchable graphics is either use an nvidia chipset with a core 2 duo or have an arrandale chip with integrated video and I'm still not clear on how the latter works.

 

Where did you read that?

 

as long as this thing can play games at playable framerates for 2-3 years i'm content with it. i don't care about resolution and quality, just smooth framerates in a mobile solution

give me an i5 in this thing and i'll be very content!

 

Considering the size of the screen and the native resolution I bet the thing will run games well. I want to convince someone in my family they need one of these so I can play around with it.

 

I really don't want to game on high settings either, because I have a desktop for that, but 7000 3DMarks vs 4000 is a big difference.

 

When you entered the sweepstakes on the alienware website, they said the "preliminary" 3dMark score was 5,700. This wording infers that they expect higher scores once it's released (which would coincide with their 6,000 to 7,000 claim), but even if it doesn't improve, that's a heck of a lot higher than 4,000.

I would source this, but they've changed the sweepstakes question from being about the graphics chip to the CPU. Speaking of which;

So Core 2 Duo confirmed. . . but what do they mean "optional"? Are we stuck with Core 2 Solo as standard? If that's the case, $999 better be the maxed out price as reported by Cnet, not the starting price as some here have speculated.

 

Is it me, or am I the only one seeing that they are going to put a crappy low-end 310 g-card for the base $999.99 (add $200 for 335M ) like how the m15x has the base config for 240M.

 

Yes i also think it is that way: maybe 799-999 for the base config and then adding cpu/gpu/hdd etc will end up more than 1k

 

Nah, then when they had the GPU question on the sweepstakes they would've called it "optional", like they are with the Core 2 Duo.

. . . which is still bugging me. The only thing pin-compatible with a ULV C2D would be a C2S, AFAIK. Why would they even offer that as an option?

Anyway, the 335M looks to be standard equipment. Looks like the CPU is what we need to worry about.

 

I don't know if this has been posted before, but I'd share it anyway.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/hands-on-...worlds-smallest-gaming-rig-verdict-compelling

 

"...starts at under one thousand dollars..." so yeah maybe base config will be 999

 

If base starts at $999 I'm bailing out

 

+repped thanks for that article.. new information to me. Also 4lb depending on configuration? lol can change the weight that much? So confirmed it's made of plastic and two color lids black or gray. 6000-7000 on 3DMark although wasn't mentioned if it was 05/06 lol who knows!! Also I was thinking it would be a full sized keyboard, but author said felt small, so hmm interesting. The more I find out, the more I'm leaning away from it, although it looks awesome. I think my Sager will have to suffice for my 'everything' computer.

 

Agreed, but cnet seems pretty sure it'll be $799 base.

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-31045_1-10428491-269.html

 

Is the battery built in? I've read on several places that it is but i'm not quite sure.

 

Yeah it is.

 

by the way the Asus laptop i have been talking about (and i think that has been mentioned before in this thread) is the Asus UL80JT

this article explains what it is
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news...tm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

 

That ASUS is great too, i7 CPU and 310M is a very nice combo.
M11x's 335M is far superior, even if it comes with a Culv it still is a pretty potent combo.

 

The difference in GPUs is great than the difference in CPUs in my opinion.

The low voltage core 2 duo part is more than capable enough. Are you all trying to run servers/databases off this thing?!

My dad has an Inspiron Mini 11z with a Pentium dual core su4100 in it and he could not be happier (and he appreciates a quick and snappy machine), this will be a much better processor than that one

 

we are all just hoping for a portable dream machine i guess, and i agree a ULV processor is not bad at all

 

I think it's more an argument that it's old technology, and that any machine released now, that considers itself a "gaming" machine should have a mobile i5/i7. Also it's because of the fact it comes clocked in at 1.3GHz. They should have at least gone with a SU9600.

 

whats better 335 or 5830

 

Let's hope the ULV processor is overclockable just like Asus Turbo33 OC on their SU7300

 

I hear ya.
Hopefully only the base model comes with the lower clocked Culv and we at least have a option to upgrade to something like the SU9600.

 

Yea but they'll probably charge you $350 to jump up 300MHz considering Dells current pricing on mobile CPUs Even though the SU9600 is only costing them $50 more then the SU7300...

Edit: I should also add that when you answer the question to enter for a chance to win one on the Alienware site, the next screen says " The Alienware M11x is powered by optional Core 2 Duo low voltage processors, delivering gaming and on-the-go performance along with longer battery life than standard voltage processors." so it appears there will be some CPU options available

 

I'm more concerned about the fact that it's the Core 2 Duo's that are optional. Probably means Core 2 Solo is standard.

 

Hmmm, I tried to re enter with one email and it didn't let me, but after that it let me with my other. I am confused. Damn you Alienware!

 

Oh crap, didn't even think about that What Core 2 Solo are even available?

 

Do I have to answer that?

 

Well, I'm assuming core 2 solo because it's the only ULV chip worse than a Core 2 Duo that runs on the same mobo/chipset (AFAIK). I would guess it'd be the SU3500 (1.4GHz), but it really doesn't matter. For me, single-core = deal-breaker.

Luckily, we know it CAN come with a Core 2 Duo, just a question of price now.

 

If you believe notebookcheck.com's ranking and benchmarks of similar cards, the 5830 is about 40% faster than the 335 (roughly 53 fps versus roughly 38, Crysis GPU benchmark medium).

 

You show that you hate something solely on your stupid bias:no solid and specific evidence supported.
You also claim that Z is old because it is from TT. I wonder if Mac nowadays is that really new, and no one or even Apple ever made that before. How about previous Mac before the unibody one?

I do not care about your bias. If you do not have more specific reasons why you think Sony is bad, do not show your retardation because it makes some good Mac fanboys look so bad.

 

Sony is great, they are just way overpriced, but the thing is with sony is that you wait some time with a new machine before you want to buy it due to sony always is slow with refreshing their machines so wait a while. Yes the TT was way to much but at the time it was both i believe 11.1 and a 13.1 and only like 2 pounds with a small dvd cd drive, so it was pretty good. The Z series is a updated and steroid machine. Marketed as a business and play machine with a switch of a button, even more powerful due a backlit keyboard and amazing carbon filter and build quality. Your paying for portability and build quality funny thing is that the Z is so much cheaper than the R600 from Toshiba with a 512 SSD it comes 3,499! Its a pound lighter and i was told sells a lot. But i will take a Z anyday! So your basis on just Sony as a company with their build quality that looks like a mac is just a childish rant that needs to be researched more, this site is for the pros and people who want to learn not others who want to criticize something without a plausible reason why their machines stink, mac book pros also have amazing quality. I am not defending mac either just telling. I am considering the new Sony F series but it has to have ATI Raideon mobility 5000 series.

 

The SONY Z series are nice, pricey but really nice.
If it wasn't for the new M11x I would highly be considering that laptop.
You can't deny the Z series looks fantastic and performance should be very,very good.

 

I'm bailing if it's only ULV C2D. Capable processors, but they're not anywhere near fast. That I expect to be using "current/newer" tech, aka. 32nm, not the 45nm that C2Ds are based off.

 

Z is nice, although it needs a better gpu... a Z refresh would be something nice to see

 

yea depending on the processor in the m11x...im highly considering the UL30JT if only asus put in the same GPU as the m11x then i would have no contest the asus all the way.. lol

 

It is getting refreshed, yeah i like the Z a lot, if it also has CLUV i am doubting it too, G73H! Yes the Z needs a much better GPU, if a little machine like this can have a gig then so can the z or atleast 512mb.

 

One GPU is the integrated chip, the other is the NVIDIA card.

 

I don't know how high your standards are but 1024*768 resolution looks very high for such a small screen. I'm forced to play cod4 on 800*600 to avoid teleporting >.> The only difference I saw when trying it on a higher resolution was more sharper texts, the game looked just as good.

Besides I think i'm not the only one who is just going to use this thing to brag in college instead of using it for actual gaming ^^

 

You know I'm pretty sure sony had the chicklet keyboard before Macs did, and since thats what most people consider "Mac wannabe" I figured I'd bring it up. Also, her kids getting on it are probably why she started having problems in the first place. There ARE lemon laptops out there, but most of the time its P.I.C.N.I.C.

 

You are correct, sony helped apple to use those 'new' seperate key keyboards.

 

What is the potential and range for overclocking the CPU?

 

+1. I won't be buying it either. I was excited at first but I'm not prepared to invest in old technology.

 

Might be 1.73Ghz like Asus UL80Vt/30Vt/50Vt

 

Getting better.
Could the webpage be up for preorders in another week or so?

 

hopefully... -_-;
I want to start ordering the M11X after my semester-exams end in late January...