Alienware M11x Debut Discussion

option 1: C2D ULV (10 TDP) + GMA chipset (18 TDP) 335m (35 TDP) = 63 TDP

option 2: i3 (18 TDP) + southbridge (5 TDP) + 5830 (25 TDP) = 48 TDP

NO WAY OPTION ONE GETS MADE!

If Dell isn't smart enough to make option 2, someone will.

 

Core i7-640UM, Core i7-620UM and Core i5-520UM low voltage parts are not slated for release until summer. The chances of the m11x initially getting a i3 processor during launch is 0%

 

I know the GPU can definitely handle it but can that cpu? i think thats the CPU its launching with..but if its not bare with me lol..

Minimum Frostbite PC Specifications for BFBC2 & BF1943.
Processor: Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHz
Main memory: 2GB
Graphics card: GeForce 7800 GT / ATI X1900
Graphics memory: 256MB
OS: Windows XP
Free HDD space:
15GB for Digital Version, 10GB for Disc Version (BFBC2)
10GB for Digital Version, 4GB for Disc Version (BF1943)


If it can i will be all over this laptop its perfect for what i need portability and gaming power...if it cant..i might as well buy a 1201N and just play bf2 on the go...

and does anyone know the smallest laptop that can play this game...besides the UL series from ASUS?

Thanks

 

Well, in this video he specifically states the U7300 proc.

Not too hopeful here.....

 

anyone seriously?


a simple yes or no would suffice...

 

Yes.
Even with the Culv CPU that's reported to be in the M11x it should be able to handle that game unless the game is very CPU dependent.
The GPU should have no problems with it.

 

Sweet im also looking into a lower priced light weight 15" with the power to play it... do you think the ferrari one would be able to play it? because that would be exactly what im looking for at the right price..

 

From what I read the C2D is just a pre release setup to show this baby of.
The processors that could be in the final versions are the ulv ones from the new arrendale series: i5-520UM, i7-620UM or i7-640UM.

 

key word Could... but if so those could definently handle this game...I would buy it in a heartbeat ultra portable Bad company 2 on the go is like a dream come true... (better than being tied to my xbox) lol find a free wifi hotspot or wardrive xD and boom instant bad company 2 online pwnage ^_^


so i take it the Acer ferrari one is a no go for this game?'

and i am likeing the specs and price of the Acer AS5740 that also use the arrendale series..

 

Don't take my words on this but I am personally never interesting in stuff like Acer Ferrari or Lamborghini or some sort. Those laptops have nothing to do with those sport cars and naming them by sport cars is a ridiculous marketing.

Actually the only laptop that remind me of a sport car is the All Powerful series. I mean at least look at the speakers, front vents, lid etc...

 

i was just going for the performance i could care less about the branding its the form factor to performance ratio im looking at... i was wondering if it could run it because its like 600$ but impossible to find lol...so i guess ill be playing bc2 on my 360 for awhile until i can get enough money to buy an m11x

 

I don't know if they would really make only 1 demo laptop for showing off in CES.
This is my guess: they would be ready to produce the demo model for mass productions.
I would not expect them to change Core2Duo ULV when it is available, yet it would be much better with the new arrandale's

 

Not likely. I think (although not certain) that the ULV processors have their own socket so you may only be able to put ULV processors in it, and even then the system may not support another processor.

That's if the processor isn't soldered in which it might be.

You certainly won't be able to put a processor with a higher TDP in it, because any of three things could happen: 1. Processor doesn't get enough power, 2. Processor power draw causes motherboard, power supply or power adapter to blow out, 3. Processor overheats massively

 

Delete meh!

 

Should I assume that the C2D ULV is not pin compatible with any I3 or I5 CPUs running at a higher clock speed??

 

You should assume that there is no existing motherboard on Earth that can take both a C2D or an i(insert number here) CPU.

 

so what options are there for C2D ULV besides the mentioned SU7300? Now I'm thinking I may wait for a M11x refresh! lol

 

They are two different technology ages Thus they use two different sockets/mobos.

 

I hope it comes with a WLED screen, I haven't seen any mention of it. For an ultraportable, I can think of numerous situations where the extra brightness would come in handy, not to mention the decreased power draw vs CCFL backlit screens.

 

As far as we know, the 1.3GHz C2D ULV they used in the test model is the only one that'll be available in final models. We HOPE they'll be developing it for i3/i5 in the month or so before they release it but I doubt it for one.

I hope that too, and while it seems possible I haven't exactly heard it mentioned anywhere.

 

Asus can use i7 620UM for its test model for UL30JT.
I doubt if Dell would change it from SU7300 to something else on release date because if Dell want to do so, they should have done it at the first place, like Asus does.
I think we will see huge bottleneck from CPU if it uses SU7300.
I mean old games should be handled fine,but it would have trouble for up-coming games in a year or 2 years with that CPU.

 

Actually you'd be suprised, even a lot of modern games use little CPU.

I mean, Lord of the Rings Online, what I see as the best looking MMORPG to date, fully works my graphics cards but places my CPU under about 15% load.

I run my processor in power saver most of the time at 1.6GHz, purely because in most games it hardly makes a difference having 2.0GHz for me.


Of course in the more processor intensive games, it will bottleneck them.

 

Bloody hell, for the last time, there is no ULV Core i3! It's an 18W Core i5.

 

Are ther higher speed C2D ULVs with similar TDP?

 

this is what I wanted to know, I think someone misunderstood my question. Just wondering what kind of options may be available at time of building besides the SU7300.

I'm guessing HDD options will be available in the regular sizes + SSD, Ram configs and that's probably it. oh and some 3rd party external DVD drive probably.

 

I don't think so many upgrade options will be available. You don't have to add too many things to go from $799 to $999.

 

this is thinking that $799 will be starting price and $999 max configured? What about a $999 base configuration?

 

Can't give you a link because I don't remember, but it's been stated $999 is supposed to be the max and it will start at $799. Of course nothing is final until it's final.

 

okay with that, then that gives $200 worth of configuration options.. 250GB to 500GB 7200RPM was about $68 from M15x, and 3GB ram to 4GB I forget was maybe $45? Now if SSD is an option I'm sure it will be $300-400 if the 256GB is available. hmm waiting game sucks.

 

Looking at the upcoming Asus G73, I would not mind an 11" gaming laptop that looks like that. That Asus looks very cool.

Anyway, I hope Dell releases some extra info before launch soon.

 

Why you argue with others? you really forget about cloud gaming as such onlive, others. Let me assuming that dellienware listened or heard onlive CEO said onlive can running by low ended laptop, outdated laptop, crappy netbook, old pc, new pc.

anyway I will get this which replacing my asus 1000HD, soon.

 

Hopefully the processor will be much better, there are people like me who don't play online due to my connection, and it just doesn't interest me to many people cheat. I agree that most newer games in the next 2 years the processor will struggle it needs a better processor how about a core i3?

 

In Acer's defense though, they do sponsor a F1 Ferrari team, so it isn't totally off base... and I do like the Ferrari One and would have bought one if I could have found one in the US, but they are HARD to find! And now that the MX-11 was previewed, might wait for that, as it does look great.

Plus, I just like the red ha

 

Arg. It's SO close to being exactly what I want. Wonderful graphics card. But the CPU isn't good enough. If I could play Sins of a Solar Empire on max on this thing, then I'd get it. But that takes a 2 Ghz. C2D. I guess I'll have to wait until the next revision.

 

There... are... NO LOW POWER CORE i3's!
At the least read back through the thread.
There are definitely no ULV Core i3's, but there are ULV Core i5's and i7's.
That might be what we get.

 

Ah, but this is an ULV Core 2 Duo, which is why it has a lower clock.
You can't compare clock by clock. Also, ever heard of MHz/GHz myth.
Seems to be rampant in this thread.

 

The megahertz myth is when comparing clock speeds of different architectures.

While the ULV chips might be slightly different than other Core 2's in some respects, they're essentially the same chip from a performance point of view.

And what do you know, a 2.6 GHz Core 2 (T7800) performs about twice as fast as the 1.3 GHz SU7300: 19 seconds for SuperPI 1M versus 37 seconds on the 1.3 GHz chip ( source). I know, I know, the T7800 also has a larger L2 chache, but my point is that making performance approximations by clock speed WITHIN THE SAME SERIES OF CPU is roughly accurate.

That said, games and applications notoriously overestimate necessary CPU power. Ask anyone who has gamed with system monitor open: CPU use rarely goes over 50%, even when the game *requires* that CPU.

In short, I wouldn't worry too much about the SU7300 being underpowered for gaming. If you're really unsure, wait for the reviews to come out and see how stuff runs. I'd be happy to test games for people if I get my paws on one

 

I'm extremely late to this thread, so apologies if this has been answered before. Heard of a spring release for the M11X, but read an article on ign gear saying the expectation is for a February release. Is all of this just speculation or do we have a reliable source that knows the release date.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/105/1059729p1.html

 

I forget where I've read/heard but February is what I'm hearing everywhere else.

 

You can count on Spring. I just hope it comes sooner than later.

 

Some games utilize the CPU pretty much. Run latest Chessmaster or GNU chess and see your CPU hits 100%.
Even older games like WOW love high CPU clocks.
From the newer ones - Dragon Age and (especially) Empire Total War will eat your 1.3GHz for breakfast.

And don't even think of ever running a virtual machine on a weak CPU, every instance devours half of my P8700@3GHz with max graphics.

Actually, I hoped they could come up with i5 in it, but C2D 1.3Ghz....Hmmm
Dunno. Probably they had to sacrifice a CPU for a video card juice.

 

yeah Dragon Age Origins goes to 100% cpu usage, it's nuts. I wanna say it's something not optimized correctly.

 

That's slightly disappointing but also quite interesting for me...Dragon Age Origins is one of the many games I run with my processor at 1.6GHz. And I don't have a problem with it.

So unless it's well optimised for quad cores, I tend to think that while 1.3GHz will cut framerates down a little the machine will still handle it on medium/low.

 

Oh, I don't have a problem running DA:O at all, run it maxed texture and graphics minus AA native res, but either way the CPU usage is 100% which I find odd.

 

Too early, without a doubt, the SU7300 will leave the GPU asking for more. But the 335M is an impressive piece of kit, to say the least.

 

Now THIS is what I'm talking about:

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Who needs the M11x when Sony has a sexy beast like this coming out with longer battery life? It's supposed to have a nVidia GT 330M GPU in it.

 

Yeah, I would have ordered the updated Z already if it was out

My wife has a Z and it is a great lappy. The new one brings in everything I wanted on hers. It's like Sony read my mind! lol

Meh... Went with the Envy for now

 

I was thinking about going for a z too but man its starting at 1,899, a bit too high but that LED screen is awesome. Sorry, i did read about the core i3 not released as a CLUV but who knows eventually.

 

Sure, it would be a lot nicer, but I can guarantee you it's 2x the price.

 

Yup starts at 1,899.