Best wireless mouse? (+ external HDD question)

Hello everyone, what mouse would you recommend? I'd prefer a wireless USB one, as I do not have bluetooth for my M11XR2.

Also, as I'm not very in the know, with computers and the likes, is this a good 1TB external hard drive? http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/272510...=gu_goog_371&gclid=CKSRh8v0yKYCFYOIDgodMj8OIQ

And is €44 a good price for a 32GB USB memory stick?

 

Do you need a travel mouse or regular sized? Lots of people like the Logitech G700. Logitech Anywhere MX is a good travel mouse. I have a Razer Orochi (using a USB bluetooth adapter) and I'm happy with it.

Re: the external hdd, hard to say from the specs but Iomega is a decent brand. I expect it will be reliable but nothing special in terms of performance.

 

Why would you use an adapter if you have built-in bluetooth already.

 

because i don't have it built in?

 

Logitech G700 seems pretty sweet, €70 ain't bad for it.

I don't have bluetooth built-in to my laptop.

EDIT: It'll be cheaper for me to get the Orichi and a bluetooth adapter.. well any bluetooth adapter suffice? This one is pretty cheap: http://is.gd/ndbfbG and the Orichi is on the same site so I'll be guaranteed both of 'em at the same time. Or should I just go for the Logitech G700?

 

That adapter should work fine with the Orochi. The Orochi is much smaller than the G700, which is a full-size gaming mouse. It's a matter of preference. They're both very high quality.

 

I'm going with the Orichi, it comes with some Razer earphones, plus bluetooth adapter. €71 including shipping.

 

Oops, I forgot the bluetooth adapter was optional.

 

Why don't you just use the bluetooth that's in your m11x?





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whatever mouse feels good, I jsut got one from best buy, Logitech - M510 , one of the only reasons I got it was it has a micro USB adapter. That way there isnt some huge USB dongle thing hanging off the side of my HP.

So does the m11x have built in bluetooth or no? Ill be buying one next week and wouldnt mind a BT mouse.

 

Just because it is Bluetooth, and Bluetooth is the "newest" wireless technology, does not automatically make it better. In fact, Bluetooth technology is one of the WORST mouse connectivity technologies.

If you're talking about mice in general, then wired mice are by far the best mice in terms of pure performance and convenience. They always operate at full performance, and never have batteries that need recharging / replacing.

After wired mice, you have 2.4Ghz wireless. On the high-end of 2.4Ghz wireless, you have some high polling rate mice. The Logitech G700 (which is easily one of the best mice out, wired or wireless) falls into this camp, with polling rates as high as 1000Hz (1ms response time). If you do not need all of the super ultra-powerful gaming features of the Logitech G700, then the Logitech Performance MX is an excellent mouse. I use it all the time on my work laptop. Nice, full-sized mouse, smooth mousing motion, and darkfield imaging which allows the mouse to work on any surface (including glass and polished granite).

And at the very bottom of the connectivity technologies is Bluetooth. Bluetooth operates at 125Hz (8ms response times) polling rates. The Razer Orochi is probably the "best" mouse in this category, but "best" is relative. There is the annoying 3-second sleep timer, the 8ms lag time, and the relatively low 2000dpi engine when running in Bluetooth mode. Just about the only reason to ever buy a Bluetooth mouse is if you don't want to give up a USB port, which would not apply to you since you need a USB adapter anyway. Or, you are a total Razer fanboy who has bought into their marketing, and are absolutely convinced that paying for their absolutely useless "1337 g4M3rZ features" like gold-plated USB connectors, flashy LED lights, or the ability to turn your wired Orochi mouse into a half-assed wireless Bluetooth mouse somehow makes a better mouse.

In short, nobody who is serious about mice buys a Bluetooth mouse. They either go with wired, or high-performance 2.4Ghz wireless. Even Razer Orochi apologists and fanboys will tell you that they use wired mode when they need serious mouse performance, because the Bluetooth mode sucks for anything that requires your mouse to operate at peak performance.

 

Kent, I've noticed that you're always bagging on the orochi and I don't appreciate being called and apologist or fanboy. It works for me and for others. Get over it.

 

The blue LED scroll wheel is really the only reason to get the Orochi. Oh, and the stealth look which fits perfectly with the m11x. It's a love and hate relationship to be honest. I hardly ever use it in wireless mode anymore... only when I travel now.

 

I'm always bagging on the Orochi because there are always new forum members who haven't read the old threads about it. A lot of people automatically (and falsely) assume that Bluetooth is automatically better, simply because it's newer. I post to inform forum readers that assumption is not true, and give explanation why it is not true.

Yes, there are people out there for whom the Razer Orochi works just fine. They know the benefits and shortcomings of the Orochi, and have decided that it is the best product for their needs. For those informed users, I say to each his own. You will not find a single post from me where I tell those people that they are wrong or stupid, or that they made a poor choice.

My posts are intended at people who are NOT fully informed and have not considered all of the options. And yes, I have an anti-Razer brand bias in my posts. Just like some people have a very pro-Razer brand bias in their posts. If you want to lend your opinions to the conversation, then by all means do so. That is the purpose of a forum.

 

Thank you for the great reply. I'll try and see if I can find the G700 for cheap

 

That's hardly "to each his own." At least I said they were both good mice. Ultimately the proof is in the gaming and the circumstances under which you would notice the difference in poling speed, or when you would need the higher rate for gaming, or if you sometimes need a small mouse that travels nicely and doesn't have an unnecessary number of buttons. Put the Orochi up against a desktop gaming mouse, the latter wins for desktop systems every time. But that's not why you buy it. I have tried the Orochi under various gaming scenarios, wired and wireless, and I would still recommend it. And incidentally, I've never bashed anyone for recommending a different brand.

Bottom line: if you haven't owned one, you're not qualified to say anything about it. And at least man up and admit that you're insulting the people who buy and recommend the mouse. Maybe try asking the OP what kind of mouse they want and why they were attracted to a smaller gaming mouse in the first place?

 

Here's an idea:

If you disagree with me so much about the Razer Orochi, contribute to the public discussion. Make a post about why you like the Orochi so much, so that the other forum members can get an alternative perspective and make an informed decision on whether it is the right mouse for them.

Bashing and coming after me through public forum posts for my opinions doesn't help anybody except yourself. And if your top priority is indeed to bash me rather than contribute to the discussion re: Razer Orochi, then we can continue this in PM's.

 

So much passion over a simple bluetooth mouse!

By the way, I use a Logitech bluetooth mouse and keyboard combo and it works fine for me. On rare occasions the mouse does seem to lose connection for a few seconds, which I suppose can be a problem if you're unlucky enough to have it happen during the last phase of a crucial WoW boss battle...

 

... And they wonder why I call them fanboys.

 

Yeah, I'd definitely look into Logitech's and Microsoft's RF mice. They're expensive, sure, but they are worth it. Logitech's mini dongle sticks out just shy of a centimeter. Instant connectivity all the time, anytime (you just have to tap a mouse button or spin the wheel to wake it up when it sleeps after non-use for a while).

 

My fiancee got me a Logitech Wireless Trackball M570 for Christmas (I got her a ring haha pwned!) I really like it a lot. Most people either love or hate trackballs, but I use an ancient wired Microsoft Optical at work- lets me get stuff done. I smashed my hands on an icy driveway last year and nearly cracked my wrists. The trackball is an interesting side effect of this.