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    Can we expect to see this in the Future m11x

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by AppleUsr, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. AppleUsr

    AppleUsr Notebook Deity

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    asus has managed to squeeze a regular voltage i7 in a 11.6 inch thin case and still have it perform great. in fact its even better performance then the macbook air because of the higher clockrate.

    have a look at these 2 11.6 inch machines (3.5 ghz in a 11 inch chassis). they are half the thickness or less of a m11x. the specs are off the charts for a machine of that class and size. hopefully if asus can do it alienware can update and do it too.

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    I just dont believe gpu heat alone restrains m11x that much.
     
  2. un4tural

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    well, GPU heats more than CPU at least in case of my m11x R3... I am sure it would be possible to stuff beefier GPU in the m11x, but it would take a way bigger heat sink...

    Also, from my experience at least, asus quality... well its not really there... i still remember "asus. Rock Solid, Heart Touching" slogan on my motherboard... few months out of warranty sata sockets started acting up or controllers, wouldn't allow me to OC the GPU at all...

    Again, coulda changed, doubt it since i had 1201N not long ago. yeah
     
  3. UberJason

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    Man, I would love for an M11x with a regular voltage processor. I loved my M11x but it was pretty sad at playing Starcraft 2 in larger multiplayer games, even on lowest graphics - the processor just couldn't keep up.
     
  4. AppleUsr

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    I agree that they have let their quality slide. however they do try and make up for it with their bright pixel policy and they bang for the buck. I do think their quality is better then acer and their flimsy lids and crappy keyboards. Quality issues aside I think what asus did was a amazing feat and id love to see alienware m11x follow suit
     
  5. deadboy90

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    Hmm, A full quad core m11x... I think even in the newest reision if they leave the 540m in that might make enough difference for folks to upgrade. On the other hand that may be starting to step on the toes on the m14x.
     
  6. un4tural

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    well, if they did that i doubt that you'd get half the time on battery you do now...

    Again, possible, not really what they're going for. Would be nice to get the option though... Personally, i'd rather get a beefier GPU, i play RTS but not as much as to spend extra(~300$ would be? considering how badly dell overcharge for upgrades). though i wouldn't mind ticking the better GPU option. Not for too much though.
     
  7. Rypac

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    My number 1 wish would be for a better quality screen. A beautiful IPS would be the ultimate goal but at least something with better viewing angles and colour reproduction should be a minimum.

    Personally I would also like a higher resolution and 16:10. Obviously not everyone would jump for that but I'd be more than happy if that was an optional upgrade. :)
     
  8. AppleUsr

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    sigh. the death of 16:10 screens makes me cry.
     
  9. kent1146

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    I don't want to sound like a jerk, but this is where you are wrong. The GeForce 335M (M11x R1 / R2) and the GeForce 540M are 35W TDP parts. By comparison, the Intel Core i3/i5/i7 ULV CPUs are 18W TDP parts (for the M11x R2 Arrendale CPUs) or 17W TDP parts (for M11x R3 Sandy Bridge CPUs).

    The reason that the Asus U24 laptop you linked is smaller, lighter, and faster than an Alienware M11x is because the Asus U24 doesn't need to cool an extra 35W TDP nVidia gaming GPU. Every other 11.6" laptop in the entire world (including netbooks) are smaller and lighter than the Alienware M11x, because they do not need to accomodate a 35W TDP nVidia GeForce GPU in their design. But the trade-off is that the Alienware M11x is the only 11.6" laptop in the entire world that can even come close to being competent at gaming.

    Yes, the Asus U24 may have a faster non-ULV CPU. But it was not designed for gaming. When it comes to gaming, GPU performance matters far more than CPU performance. So even though the Asus U24 has a more powerful CPU, an Alienware M11x will still run circles around it when it comes to gaming because CPU is pretty much irrelevant. In fact, CPU is pretty much irrelevant in 90% of what you do with computers in general (games depend on GPU, apps depend on storage speed).

    If you are looking for a laptop, don't buy the Alienware M11x. If you are looking for a portable 11.6" laptop, don't buy the Alienware M11x. But if you are looking for a portable 11.6" laptop that can play games, then your only choice is to buy the Alienware M11x. And that is something that the Asus U24 will never be able to do.
     
  10. AppleUsr

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    saying cpu doesnt matter is way off. especially since 99% out of 100 a game wont work on m11x its because of the ulv cpu. not the graphics chip. If the heat that needs to be removed on a non ulv chip can still fit in a chassis less then a half an inch thick then I still hold my ground that it should not be a problem for m11x to utilize the same chip.
     
  11. un4tural

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    "especially since 99% out of 100 a game wont work on m11x its because of the ulv cpu."

    ugh...? 99% of games wont work on an ULV? dolphin emulator works fine, N64 emulator works fine, all games work fine except TDU2 which needs better GPU...

    My I5 beats 1st get dual core CPUs by miles, thats desktop ones as well. even though ULV, they do pack a fair lot of performance, plus really low power consumption. Really, what is it that you're saying exactly... My I5 on the R3 hasn't bottlenecked at anything pretty much, except deathmatches with massive amounts of troops in starcraft/C&C tiberium wars (the latest ones, whatever the number is for tiberium wars now)
     
  12. chuchumyrocket

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    Please don't mislead people. Every single game the m11x struggles with at this point is almost entirely gpu related, as the poster above you pointed out in his well thought out extremely detailed post that pretty much makes any point anybody else tries to make moot. Having a non ulv dual core cpu that runs a tiny bit faster would change nothing but power consumption.
     
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    Know what would be awesome? unlocked core m11x's!
     
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    As much as I would love a better CPU in the M11x, I would prefer a more powerful GPU, as with almost all games the GPU will be the weaker of the two.
     
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    I really don't mind the thickness of my M11x-r2, it doesn't have to get any thinner for the r4.

    Is there a quad core culv ivy bridge processor on the horizon? I would love to see something like that in the next M11x.
    But primarily I would like a beefier gpu.
    (I am really looking forward the M11x r4, going to buy that one for sure. I wonder when it will be released?)
     
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    Uhm..

    Ah ok.
     
  17. todu

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    Beefier GPU. Better design. Thinner would be nice too, but not necessary.

    Can't game on that Asus!
     
  18. Rypac

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    Personally, I love the current design of the M11x with the exception of the soft touch finish on the lid which attracts grease and fingerprints like nothing I have seen before.

    I have nothing against the thickness either. I would much rather have a laptop that is reasonably thick with great cooling, than a thin laptop with mediocre cooling. I would also like a metal design like my M17xR2. This would obviously negatively affect weight and not what the majority of people would want but after feeling something with such a solid build, I'd struggle to go for anything less.