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    Deevu's Quick Guide to Buying YOUR M11x

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by DeeVu, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. DeeVu

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    Up to date as of: March 25, 2012 @ 2:41PM

    Hey guys,

    I've received my M11x R3 last month and now can safely say that I have used and played with every single revision of this wonderful machine. Therefore... I have decided to do a quick guide to help future buyers of the M11x.

    To begin there are three models of the Alienware M11x by Dell **. The R1, R2, and R3. All of the three separate revisions are annotated with an "R" and their corresponding numbers.

    Note: The R4 speculation has begun and it would be reasonable to assume they are considering a Keplar GPU by nvidia to put in it. If you can wait several months for an upgrade I would wait for this laptop to be released. It would have CONSIDERABLE increases in performance if it were to include this Graphics Card.

    How do you differentiate each revision?-
    R1 - Revision 1: (No longer on sale through Dell)
    This model generally has the SU7300 Core 2 Duo processor (CPU) and always has the Nvidia Gt335m graphics card (GPU).
    R2 - Revision 2: (No longer on sale through Dell)
    This model generally has the i5-520M or i7-640M CPUs (though others are available such as the lesser: i3 330UM, and U5400) as well as also containing the Nvidia Gt335m GPUs.
    R3 - Revision 3:
    This is the newest model and has the most up to date processors. This model typically has the i5-2537M, i5-2467m, i7-2617M, or i7-2637m CPUs and always has the Nvidia GT540m GPU.
    R4 - Revision 4 (speculative - coming soon):
    This model has not been released yet and could be coming out within the next 2-4months. Thoughts are that it will have a keplar NVidia model GPU.

    But I've heard about the M14x, M17x and M18x Models, what are those?
    The M14x, M17x and M18x are larger models by Alienware. They are 14, 17 and 18 inches respectively. Each one performs quite differently and they are heavily based on personal preference. The m14x performs 20% better in general than a fully geared M11x. The base M14x price is roughly around the price of full M11x. The M17x is a cheaper version of the M18x, it can handle most games and is for the person that wants a bigger machine that can handle everything like the M18x but is on money restraints. The M18x is a dual GPU system that performs 3 to 5 times better than the M11x but is twice to three times more expensive and almost 2-3 heavier (depending on bags and such). Its all by preference and money. But anyway... moving on to the best computer (in my opinion) :) The M11x...

    What's the difference between the i5 and i7 and should I go for the lesser i3 models?
    The difference between the i5 and i7 is not much at all. You will not gain much except for maybe 5fps (frames per second) in many situations. IF YOU CAN HELP IT, do not go for the i3 model. The i3 model does not have turbo boost technology. This means it loses 20% or more of its effectiveness. Essentially it means that if you have an R3 with an i3 processor you essentially have a very slightly more powerful R2 CPU. Always opt in for the i5 or i7 models if you can.

    What does my M11x Look Like?
    Other than giving you a picture, all of the 3 models have the same general shape and basic ports (for the most part)-
    1. All revisions have a 11.6'' screen capable of 1366x768 resolution (720p). The R1 and R2 have slightly less vibrant displays (not that noticeble).
    2. All revisions make use of the AlienFX Command Center allowing the use of fully customizable color changing keyboard and speaker grilles.
    3. The R1, R2, and R3 all containing 3 USB ports. One is on the left side and two are on the right side. The R1 and R2 only have USB2.0 ports. The R3, however, uses USB3.0 technology with the 2 USB ports on the right side. All three are powered though reviews frequently misinterpret a useful function that keeps the left USB port powered on when the system is off until the battery reached 10%.
    4. All revisions have one microphone attached above the screen with integrated sound. The R3 has a second microphone used for noise cancelation. There are also 2 headphone jacks and 1 microphone jack to make use of external speakers, headsets or microphones.
    5. The R1 is the only model to have VGA, HDMI, and DisplayPort.
    6. The R2 and R3 do not have VGA (only HDMI and DisplayPort).
    7. All revisions have a standard ethernet (RJ45 port) and SD card slot.

    Price to Performance Ratio:
    The big question I am always asked is whether or not it is worth the $200-400 between each model. Here I will discuss what you will get for each system in terms of performance.
    M11x R1 ("Don't care what the graphics look like" Gamer") - Pricing Varies - No longer for sale except through a 3rd part/Outlet Sale: This computer makes use of Hybrid Switching Drivers which allows you to turn on and off your graphics card on demand. When you have your graphics card off you will gain approximately 3-5hours of extra work while performance suffers (mainly used for notes and light workloads such as browsing the internet). These drivers cannot be upgraded on a normal bases from the Nvidia website as they are released specifically from Dell.
    When it comes to gaming this computer has almost reached its end. The CPU of this computer is several years old and is the bottleneck (what holds the computer back) in most of the situations. There are several mods that can be done to increase performance such as a GPU overclock but when it comes to the CPU you are pretty much stuck unless you want to open up your laptop.
    This model can pretty much tackle games up to Bad Company 2 and Call of Duty: Black Ops on low settings. The games which are very CPU intensive will be the ones that take the heaviest hit. Games being released in today's market such as Warhammer 40k: Space Marine and Human Revolution will all need to be played on low settings to get at least 25fps.
    Though the performance lacks this is the best model when it comes to battery life. The R1 with some tweaks can get as much as 7 to 8 hours of battery life when keeping the GPU off.
    For $500 its a nice computer for someone in college who desires a laptop that can play games fairly while staying on without a plug when taking notes.
    M11x R2 (Market Crowd: Average Gamers) - Pricing Varies - No longer for sale except through a 3rd part/Outlet Sale: This laptop is the laptop for the "average joe" computer consumer. Between all of the leaps between models you will notice the biggest improvement in performance when getting an R2. When it comes to fundamentals this and the R3 use Nvidia's Optimus technology. This is where the computer switches the discrete GPU on and off when needed. Furthermore you can update your drivers to the most recent Nvidia release. This computer tends to play most games on medium or high settings without issue. Typically you will not want any shadows enabled in any game as this will take the biggest punch in your system. Bad Company 2 can play on High Settings with shadows on Low getting around 30-50fps (scenario permitting) which is an incredible jump from the R1 considering it gets in the 20s to 30s on low settings.
    M11x R3 (Market Crowd: Portable Enthusiast Gamers) - $900-1400: This is the enthusiasts laptop and not much can be said except that it can play every game on the market today at medium or high settings. In best terms the R3 plays Bad Company 2 gets about 30-50fps on All High and in Crisis it packs a punch at Enthusiast level so long as you take the Shaders down a couple notches.
    When it's all said and done there is a revision for everyone. The R2 and R3 get less battery life but not by much. Typically the R2 and R3 get about 5-6 hours when browsing and taking notes on an airplane or college setting.

    Can I upgrade my M11x?
    There are only five things that you can upgrade in the M11x:
    1. The RAM (memory)
    2. The Hard Drive
    3. The WLAN card (WiFi)
    4. The WWAN card (mobile internet)
    5. The bluetooth
    YOU CANNOT UPGRADE THE CPU OR GPU - THEY ARE SOLDERED INTO THE MOTHERBOARD.

    Should I use Dell's Outlet to purchase my M11x if money is tight?

    I have heard nothing but good things about this option. The only thing I suggest is only purchasing Certified Refurbished models. The other ones are crap :p *side note: The outlet has some M11x R3s stating they have the GT550M. This is a confirmed typo and you should read it as a 540m.

    Drivers:
    What is a driver? It is software that "controls" your hardware. ie: Your Graphics Card. In most cases updating your drivers will lead to a better experience and performance with your machine.
    The sites for Dell Drivers are as follows:
    Here. Located the GeoForce 335m or 540m respectively.

    Issues reguarding each model?
    R1 - There was a hinge issue that affected the screen hinges but they are easily replaced by a Dell tech while you are in warranty. or by depot service when you are outside warranty. Also, many are unable to operate reliably with the factory overclock enabled in the BIOS setup. They not advertised with the faster overclock in all countries so Dell's support regarding regarding the issue varies. Even with a stable overclock some Flash videos will appear corrupt when using Intel graphics and Flash hardware acceleration while overclocked. There is a known issue with closing the lid while manually entering sleep (often causes a hard lock on a black screen). If you have changed the default lid sensor behavior and manually trigger sleep, allow it to finish entering sleep mode before closing the lid.
    R2 - The hinge issue as well. Also very few laptops are affected by an error when playing certain games where it causes a Blue Screen (nvlddmkm.sys) on newer Nvidia Drivers. The only solution was to underclock your GPU. It is very hard to get it to Blue Screen while on a service call because it usually happens between 15min to 3 hours in gameplay of any of a number of games. This issue is not as common but has been mentioned on this forum
    R3 - None so far. Hinges are fixed and no issues with BSODs (blue screens).


    That is all that I can think of for my quick guide on the three models. Feel free to comment and suggest other topics to add. I will do my best to update with your information as I see fit.

    Good luck,
    DeeVu

    Additional Information:

    Sata:
    R1/R2: Only SATA2 Support
    R3: Support for SATA3
    *Credit to MassiveOverkill*


    LAN Capabilities:
    R1/R2: 10/100 (cisco) LAN
    R3: Gigabit LAN
    *Credit to MassiveOverkill*
    What's the difference? Cisco Vs. Gigabit

    Memory (R3):
    "6GB of memory (on the m11x r3 anyway) runs in asynchronous dual-channel (accoring to CPU-Z). That means, getting a 6GB unit 4GB of it is running in dual-channel and 2GB of it in single-channel. 6GB has the benefits of 4GB of dual-channel plus 2 extra GB for memory intense applications. "
    *Credit to Piedmont*

    I see an option for Soundblaster X-Fi Hi Def Audio, what is this? Refer below:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m11x/572162-soundblaster-x-fi-hi-def-audio-software-enabled-what-necessary.html

    Direct X:
    The R1 and R2 can only make use of Direct X 9 and 10 (DX9 and 10) games
    While the R3 can make use of Direct X 11 (DX11).
    This is another bonus to the R3 as DX11 is better optimized for gaming and improves visual quality
    . Therefore you get about 10-20fps more out of DX11 while having more eye candy :)
    *Credit to Rypac*

    Battery Facts:
    All three use Lithium Ion (Li-Ion) Batteries
    These tend to degrade during discharging (especially beyond 40%)
    Charging typically has no effect on degradation even at 100%.

    Hard Drives:
    All three revisions use 2.5inch Hard Drives that adhere to Sata2 or Sata3 (depending on Revision, see above).

    ** Disclaimer: Dell has terrible customer support so do not be surprised spending excessive time on the phone with them should you find the slightest error with your computer unless it is blatantly obvious like a hinge issue.
     
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  2. DeeVu

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    *reserved For Additional Topics*

    I was informed that you can only choose:

    In laymens terms-
    1) the i5 with the 540m with 1gb of VRAM
    2) the i7 with the 540m with 2gb of VRAM

    So to rephrase, if you can afford the i7 model then go for it. If you cannot then go for the i5. The gain will be minimal at best for right now. In the future you may see more significant gains when you deal with games that are right on the border of playability. The VRAM will not impact your performance only the i5 or i7 will in the future.


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    Screen protectors:

    AG2 Screen Protector by Green Onion
     
  3. Steven

    Steven God Amongst Mere Mortals

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    Very nice guide.
    A+
     
  4. KurtH

    KurtH Notebook Evangelist

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    +rep man. Now for all of you who think you know and have been battling me about the performance diffrence from R1 to R3 saying its only like 5 frame diffrence EAT IT! Good job DEEVU!
     
  5. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    Where did it say this? I just said the difference between i5 to i7 was 5fps AT MOST.

    The R1 and R3 can be as much as 40-50fps on the same settings. Its closer once you increase the quality on the R3.
     
  6. MassiveOverkill

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    Nice, but you want to make the distinction that the R3 has gigabit LAN, whereas the R1 and R2 only have 10\100. R3 also supports SATA III 6.0 Gb\sec.
     
  7. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    Thanks. Added.
     
  8. GNandGS

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    Target markets will change by force as available money and available systems differ. Each Revision is targeted at enthusiast when new.

    That said, it will be easier to direct those asking the question here instead of repeating topics.
     
  9. Rypac

    Rypac Notebook Evangelist

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    This is a great guide DeeVu, it'll help heaps of newcomers decide which M11x best suits their needs. This is what NBR should be all about, +rep.

    I vote that this should be stickied as well!
     
  10. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    Haha thanks.
    I've never had a thread be stickied :p That'd be cool. Bucket list would have something checked off for sure!
     
  11. ThwartAbyss54

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    Thank you been waiting for this. How long did this take to make? Also vote for sticky (though i dont think i matter :p)
     
  12. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    It took me a little over an hour. Had to recall a lot. Then again the recall took place during a match of Starcraft 2. So if I was completely focused maybe 20-30min.
     
  13. Vallejo

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    Very nice guide +1 :)
     
  14. Kamzan

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    if i have the m18x and suffering from the lack of portability . meaning i have a very strong computer but would still like to play easier on train / coffee shop , which R model should i get without feeling bad i bought the m18x ? :)
     
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    fantastic summary.

    Wish there was something like this available when i was contemplating joining the m11x family a few weeks ago; would have made trawling through all the various reviews a lot easier to pick out which revision suited my needs the best.

    +1
     
  16. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    Depends on what you play. If you have the money go for te r3. If you want something thAt can play new releases moderately well then go for the r2.
     
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    Love this DeeVu! +rep
     
  18. Zuu

    Zuu Notebook Geek

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    I'm giving you +rep just because you mentioned the U5400 processor :D Power to my unpredictable processor that no one else has!
     
  19. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    Haha you are the one that that actually had me put that in there. If I didn't just read a thread by you prior to making this it probably wouldn't be in there :D
     
  20. Zuu

    Zuu Notebook Geek

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    Feels good man. Feels good.
     
  21. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    My next goal is to create of list of gameplay videos at native resolution for the R3 to show what it is capable of (FPS in the corner and everything).

    Here is a list of all my games at the moment (including BF3 BETA and release once they come out). Would anyone be interested in this before I bother?
     

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  22. Kitbar

    Kitbar Notebook Enthusiast

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    Haha Deevu, nice post! Ya that would be great, gettin the M11x r3 as well and im gonna play bf3 beta ^.^ wouldnt mind seeing the benchmarks you can get though, it would really be interesting!
     
  23. Zuu

    Zuu Notebook Geek

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    I bet maplestory is a real burden for the R3. Probably almost as much as minecraft.
    On the serious note, yea, that'd be great, it's nice to see the comparison to my R2 to an R3, and it will even further help those people looking to buy a new alienware, though somewhere you may want to put a disclaimer about terrible customer support :D
     
  24. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    Alright sounds good. Once I move into college I'll start filming as my work load permits and make a thread with a link to each.


    Oh yeah. I will do that. The terrible customer support is what got me my free R3 (after 12+ hours on the phone and various replacements).
     
  25. Zuu

    Zuu Notebook Geek

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    haha, yea, when I first heard that I was a bit jealous :D In all honesty though, dell isn't all that bad, there's tons of worse customer service lines, and as being one of those myself, I know how aweful it is, cudos to them! :)
     
  26. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    Indeed but it definitely isn't superb beyond any sense of the word. Maybe middle of the road.

    If you think about it I got a $400-450 upgrade and spending 12 hours on the phone is about $38 an hour. So I worked for that :p I am not saying it wasn't worth it. But it was definitely a hassle deciphering their foreign accents.
     
  27. IrishSJ

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    I just joined the M11x family and got an R3 thanks to the knowledge I got from this thread! Thank you Deevu! I got my R3 from the Outlet and think I got a pretty good deal. First I purchased a $500 gift card from dell which gave me a $75 promotional gift card. I had to call the Dell Outlet to use both cards for the outlet order. Here is what I got

    R3 i7 2617 with 2gb GT 540
    8gb Dual Channel Ram
    320Gb 7200 RPM HDD that I am swapping out for a SSD, a Velociraptor or a SSHD from seagate like Deevu has. still deciding what to get.
    Killer Wireless-N 1103 a/g/n 3x3 MIMO (could be useless I dont know)

    Price was 969 before the 20% coupon that expired last night(I purchased it after Midnight in NY lol) the coupon saved me I believe $193 plus the $75 free card I got brought my total(with tax) to 759.71
     
  28. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    VERY nicely done :D I salute your hard work. I hope you enjoy your machine. I know I did.
     
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    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    I like the seagate or velo. This I preference. If you don't need the space like I do then go for the SSd. I use 400 of 500gb
     
  31. IrishSJ

    IrishSJ Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just how fast is USB 3.0? I was thinking of going SSD and getting a portable 1TB USB 3.0 drive. Could I run games off it or is an external still an external lol
     
  32. DeeVu

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    It's pretty fast. My flash drive is 54mb/s
     
  33. IrishSJ

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    Nice! What flash drive is that and whats the capacity
     
  34. Piedmont

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    Hi Deevu,

    I think you should add 6GB of memory (on the m11x r3 anyway) runs in asynchronous dual-channel (confirmed using CPU-Z). That means, getting a 6GB unit 4GB of it is running in dual-channel and 2GB of it in single-channel. 6GB has 99% the speed of 4GB dual-channel plus extra memory for memory intense applications.

    I went through all this when making my purchase decision, and think it downplays the importance of dual-channel as the only test I could find showed asynchronous dual-channel runs at 99% the speed of synchronous. That being the case, one is likely to see more benefits choosing 6GB than deciding to lower the memory to 4GB for the synchronous dual-channel. It also means only replacing 1 chip later if you really want the best performance (8GB syncronous dual channel) instead of two. I won't be replacing 1 chip for a 1% increase in memory performance but maybe someone else will.

    Thanks for the post, reputation increased :)
     
  35. DeeVu

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    It's an 8GB ADATA flash drive from amazon. They are really cheap but durable for 3.0USB. They have 16GB and 32GB models as well for under $45

    Will do :) Didn't know that myself and was curious!
     
  36. GNandGS

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    Played HL2 from ext drive on E1705 :)
     
  37. IrishSJ

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    Yeah i'm thinking I will play games from 2008 and older on the external and newer ones on the SSD.
     
  38. DeeVu

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    You could probably play most games on externals if they have 3.0 support. I'd stay away from shooters on external only because gameplay is highly gps dependent.
     
  39. IrishSJ

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    I read somewhere the 256gb SSD is 1.7mm is that true? Are all the HDDs 1.7mm? I was looking at 2.5 dribes and I know they make 1.8 ones but I never see 1.7 drives
     
  40. DeeVu

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    I have no idea but all m11x use 2.5 INCH drives. I have no idea about that in mm.
     
  41. IrishSJ

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    oh ok good lol thank you
     
  42. DeeVu

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    Added a section on the M14x and M18x as a lot of people have been asking me which they should get.
     
  43. Noah14

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    Awesome guide DeeVu!!
    Will prove invaluable when someone asks which revision to get :D
    +Rep
     
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    meanstreet Notebook Guru

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    Great guide! Very informative when explaining the revisions.
     
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    ThwartAbyss54 Notebook Consultant

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    Why isnt this stickyed yet?
     
  46. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    Because I am not worthy of greatness :(

    Oh and it has been updated to show where to get respective drivers.
     
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    No no no this wasnt directed to you it was all the punks that tried to mislead others thinking that just cause they had R1's (which is where i started too) shouldnt buy the R2 or R3 cause of 5 or less frame increase.

    Oh and bump for you getting this stickied
     
  48. ThwartAbyss54

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    YES YOU ARE! Lead me to those that say otherwise so i can whack them with a stick

    Oh so if it gets stickied and you update it it becomes unstickied?
     
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    M17x?? :rolleyes:
     
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    Whats the typical turn around time from ordering a unit??
     
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