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    Finally....M11x R2 GTA IV Benchies....stranger than you may think....

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by M11Ash, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. M11Ash

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    Ok Guys. Finally got My RAM sorted, got GTA IV working, got Fraps, got PIXresizer. Got Benchmark @ Standard GPU and i7 O/C CPU @ 164

    Dissapointing huh, however.....
     

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    And then just for s and giggles I turned turbo boost off :-D
    Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to play GTA VI again this timeon a laptop/netbook - just because I Can.....:wink:
     

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    Wait...so if I'm understanding this correctly, you benched way higher with turbo boost turned off? That is almost double the FPS!
     
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    interesting, i wonder if having turbo boost off will help other games
     
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    I would try a more reasonable OC like 156 mhz or 150ish. Trying to push it to its designed max might have negative impact.
     
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    Haha yep 13fps on average ?! Gonna be keeping it turned off permanently from now on methinks....

    Other i7 users might want to try this with Battlefield etc etc
     
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    Oh also if anyone wants benches of the following"(I can max rez out to 1920x1080), just let me know:
    Batman AA
    Half Life 2 + Orange Box games
    Fallout 3 + Expansions
    Oblivion + Expansions
    Burnout Paradise
    Jedi Knight games
    and Zeno Clash
     
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    Wow, that really is incredible man. I saw your first post and became instantly disheartened, having only just purchased the R2 the other day.

    Your second screenshot made me start choking. GOOD STUFF!

    +rep.
     
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    Between this oddity and the nonsense with optimus looks like somebody has a lot of work to do.
     
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    I too am eagerly awaiting my R2 with the i7........strange stuff. Could it be that the game does not let turbo boost activate, and so when the i7 is under no load it is clocked at 600mhz or something?

    With it turned off it runs at 1.2 all the time, hence better performance?
     
  11. Aerotype

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    I think it's because the game requires a dual core processor, and when turbo-boost is activated I'm pretty sure it's single core, but overclocking and turning off turbo-boost will keep you around 1.4##GHz dual core. I wonder what other games are better suited without turbo-boost...

    Just to be clear, I don't recommend you leave turbo-boost off, because it is actually helpful in almost every other situation, GTA IV I guess is not one of them. I suggest you take note of which games run better without it and only turn it off when you are going to play them.
     
  12. M11Ash

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    I just Ran 3Dmark06 - it still does identify with the 335M and my cpu score dropped by about 500 marks. So if the above turns out to be true, anyone know if we can hotfix a turboboost on/off switch? FN+6 perhaps?
     
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    F?

    Dammit.. Ash, when I saw the second benchmark i spilled coffee down into my keyboard!! what thell hell? how what? why? I am confused?


    Ash, please, make more benchmarks of the other games!!! batman would be very interesting?


    could you also try toying with this in the crysis demo?
     
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    wow.. cant waiit to go home then. I see now, maybe some games prefer static CPU frequencies rather than Dynamic(turbo boost).

    I also noticed that it underclocks your CPU quite often if you're not using it.. Unlike the R1, it stays at 1.6 or 1.7 when overclocked.
     
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    yes but do you know what this means mate?

    This is fantastic for all computers with i5 um and i7 um processors! This is big!

    ... and interesting. It's weird contradicting technologies like this, that makes it so fun and compelling to be interested in tech and gear, I think! I giggle as a school girl, when someone just discovers sutff like this.

    Ash is like a modern colombus, who just stumples over something awesome! :D
     
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    Looks like I'm gonna be saving for an I7 after all, I'm so happy. Thanks ash! :D
     
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    this makes me really excited for the i7; i'd like to see new crysis benchmarks with turbo boost off
     
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    Ok Luffy. Heres your Batman Bench with Turbo boost off.

    If you want to give me a (fast download - going to bed soon) link for the crysis demo with settings that you want. I'll follow that up as well
     

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    That is NOT what I expected, but I guess it makes sense to disable turbo boost in that case, how ever I would have expected some kind of auto detection to not use it if a program specifically requests two cores...?

    But yeah would be interesting to see other games indeed.

    MW2 , Starcraft 2 ( even just loading up replays ), etc.
     
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    I wonder how this translates in terms of BC2?
     
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    +Rep for M11Ash,

    So what speed is the i7 locked at when turbo boost is disabled? I guess I should try this myself. Nice Job!!
     
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    So guys, new thread Idea? Anyone have the technical knowledge or know anyone who does to make either of these happen? Or perhaps hack turboboost to permanantly run 2 cores @ 2Ghz or similar?

    If we can do this, I think I might have found my xbox360 replacement in this little bundle of power :eek:
     
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    I'm runnin OCed @ 164 - stable
     

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    Unfortunately no, however it is interesting. What does a dodgy program like 3dmark say about turbo boost or no turbo boost?

    thanks
     
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    Doesn't this mean that it makes sense to still buy the r1 version, which can be overclocked to run both cores at 1.7 ghz, and still save some power? Ash what is your battery life looking like anyways with wifi/bt off and just doing some word processing?
     
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    nearly 6 hours or so running an N64 emu on an overnight transatlantic flight. Brightness @ lowest, no wireless trans(disabled in Bios) no OCed CPU/GPU but Turbo was on.
     
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    PS3 > 360 anyway ;)

    Could you try Burnout Paradise and DiRT 2 if you have that one too? Native resolution is fine, just want to see how much better / worse it is than the Acer TimelineX 4820TG. Many thanks.
     
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    @M11Ash Did you see any difference in OC limits with turbo on and off?

    Im thinking that it might be more stable at 166 Mhz w/o turbo since the max Ghz it will reach is less, how ever it will have a higher lower limit for both cores?
     
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    Just thought of that dude, been running 166 for 17mins trying fps on burnout. update in a few
     
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    :) I will be interested in hearing the result for sure!
     
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    what the? Wow very encouraging
     
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    You guys think the Dolphin-Emulator would work any better with the i7 core?

    Can you please try with Zelda Windwaker?
    On my R1 of the M11x, it's unplaybable
     
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    God dammit ash you've made me giddy with exitement even with the i5 im getting. That turbo boost thing that you figured out is amazing. I've always read that when you oc something you want to keep turboboost off for stability so your theory on a more stable overclock could be correct as well.

    Hail ASH!
     
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    Crysis Single Player Demo: Download Crysis SP Demo

    Age of Conan has a free trial. You can play forever for free. the game has very impressive high end directx 10 graphics and have been improved a lot since its inception. it would be fun to see how this brutal fantasy games run now; Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer


    Settlers 7 - game just came out. has some of the most amazing graphics ever. I dont think this will even run on m11x: Download The Settlers 7 Paths to a Kingdom Demo

    ARMA2 - This game has very high system requirements too. it should not be able to run on m11x either; FilePlanet: ArmA 2 Demo
     
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    OK UPDATE!!! Running @ 166 No BSOD or Feeze up crashes for nealy an hour :-D
    Oh and Burnout doesn't have a Benchmark run so I did some Frapsing. I've never played it before but I tried to mix it up a bit - sheete, unfortunatly nothing has come out right with gameplay shots - all have bits missing and rates of 1 to 3?!

    However, while I was playing fraps numbers were high fifties almost always very occasionally droping to the 44/43fps mark - when you crash or jump

    Settings attached

    Dolphin is next :crossesfingers:
     

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    Luffy, Mate, you .... Gonna have to pull an all nighter now :eek:

    Dolphin first
     
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    Sounds good mate, however I have no idea about the requirements for burnout.

    What id like to see though is if there is a difference in OC at 162 w turbo boost and OC at 166 w/o turbo boost :)
     
  39. M11Ash

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    3-4 frames by my eye with fraps on mate. Every setting on highest @ native rez
     
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    In the favor of NO turbo?

    But thats interesting, closer than I thought, if you got time mate, please try both settings for the other games too, even if its somewhat brief.
     
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    Believe me, with 8xAA and SSAO getting that kind of framerate, that's nothing short of impressive - my desktop barely manages that...

    And don't worry, i'm in the UK too, you've got company ;D
     
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    We' all love this matey :D your doing your part for this vigilant community! :)


    Here is some more if you have time;D

    Just cause 2 demo: Demo Versions: Just Cause 2 Demo - Demo Movie Patch Download Section - GamersHell.com < great open world game. has quite hefty requiements.

    world in conflict: Demo Versions: World in Conflict US Demo - Demo Movie Patch Download Section - GamersHell.com < beautiful graphics, takes a meaty computer with all the explosions.

    unreal tournament 3: Demo Versions: Unreal Tournament 3 Beta Demo - Demo Movie Patch Download Section - GamersHell.com < unreal engine 3 gaming! would this also apply to APB and Gears of War?

    Anoo 1404: Demo Versions: Anno 1404 UK Demo - Demo Movie Patch Download Section - GamersHell.com < outside of settlers 7, this game has the best graphics I have ever seen from an bird view game.

    X3 benchmark demo: Demo Versions: X3: Terran Conflict Rolling Demo Benchmark - Demo Movie Patch Download Section - GamersHell.com < maybe useful?

    medival 2: total war: Demo Versions: Medieval 2: Total War Demo - Demo Movie Patch Download Section - GamersHell.com < this game can have up to 10,000 people fighting at the screen at once. it brings everything to its knees. i heard its more CPU intensitive than the newer empire!?

    FRAR 2 demo: Demo Versions: F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin Demo - Demo Movie Patch Download Section - GamersHell.com < havent tried this myself.
     
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    wow awesome! :)


    in dolphin, could you try Wind Waker? I always wanted to play that game in 720p. IMO its the most beautiful game of all time!
     
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    I'd be interested in seeing WiC (great game) and M2TW ( really hates computers).
     
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    Can you guys post the GTA benchmark tests.. i want to try it on my desktop( ill save em when i get me m11x r2 XDDD)

    I really cant wait for my laptop now >.<

    Thank you for benchmarking theses !!!!!!!!!!!! im posting after lurking for days
    but this thread deserves a post!! lol
    Ill rep u if i can ( and if i know how to ) ty again
     
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    Dalli welcome to the forums :D may your time here be blessed!


    + Some starter rep!
     
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    I think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion. Turbo-boost is a feature, it is good, you want it on, okay? GTA IV so far seems to be an exception, not every other game will run better without turbo-boost. Now can we please stop spamming every other thread saying "turn off turbo-boost for better fps" etc.? /rant
     
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    So guys i guess the Core i3-330UM would be as good as the Core i7-640UM(Turbo Boost OFF) ?
     
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    Dalli first 2 posts for GTA benchies. Luffy not looking good for the dolphin, I did some checking Skies of Arcadia. A dreamcast come gamecube favorite of mine not good though 15/20fps avg 2/3fps better than with turbo once again but still nowhere near playable:
    windwaker next - boring boat bits in that one thou ;-)
    I'm d/l demo's of crysis/settelers7/arma2 cant do anymore cos my landlord will cut my net if I my bandwidth any more
     
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    I hope you are right.. But so far we are just doing trial by error based on curiosity, so unless you have some actual data to make sure your statement is correct, I think you should let people do the testing to collect the data you seem to missing.
     
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