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    Finally....M11x R2 GTA IV Benchies....stranger than you may think....

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by M11Ash, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. luffytubby

    luffytubby Notebook Deity

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    As far as organization goes, the forum is a mess, with lots of the same questions being asked in many threads. But maybe it will be cleaned once the dust settles!
     
  2. Dalli

    Dalli Notebook Consultant

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    oh i re read my post lol and i made a mistake. I mean if i can have the benchmark software for gta 4...i googled and found out its in the game itself.

    I guess ill go grab it off my friend or something.
    haha sucks about the landlord part hahaha. sEe you tmr i guess and thnx again
    Thank you for the rep tubby!!!
     
  3. M11Ash

    M11Ash Notebook Evangelist

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    No good on Dolphin - my wii is safe....for now.
    ;)

    Wind waker would not pass 9fps same with Twilight and SSBM

    Therefore I'd say that leaving Turbo boost on is your best bet for emulation but nothing higher than DC EMU is worth playing I'd hazard a guess.

    Aerotype sorry for any hassle caused mate, but so far it seems any game that supports (some of) the developments in these new "i"chips seem to be greatly improved by turning this feature off. It may well be that with future coding and with this in mind it could do wonders for our system. I'm no expert so I can't say with any certainty but I figured this would be the right place to do as much research on it as poss and then compile a list of games that do and do not benefit from the Turbo boost feature. Either way the aim is for the benefit of everyone. hope your good
     
  4. Nivaku

    Nivaku Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks so much for your help M11Ash been so helpful, guess the R1 and R2 are the same when it comes to Dolphin Emu
     
  5. Aerotype

    Aerotype Notebook Consultant

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    I wasn't directing that at you, but everyone in general, and honestly I'm not bothered by this thread, I'm all for it and I support your effort. I'm mostly bothered by people being misinformed and people spreading misinformation, especially in other threads about completely different things. Again I'm not blaming this on anyone, there just seems to be a lot of misinformation in this thread in general.
     
  6. Tweak155

    Tweak155 Notebook Evangelist

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    What kind of misinformation (in this thread)?
     
  7. Aerotype

    Aerotype Notebook Consultant

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    People saying that turning off turbo-boost will increase frame rate, when in reality, it hasn't only been tested and proven in one game, which I believe will be a rare exception. I just wanted to stress that you shouldn't leave turbo-boost turned off just because of this, since it is actually very good feature, and helps for most tasks/applications.
     
  8. Tweak155

    Tweak155 Notebook Evangelist

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    I think I got the idea that people should try turning off turbo boost during some benchmarks to see if they too also notice a difference.

    Either way I'd agree, always leaving it off sounds nonsensical.
     
  9. jeffreybaks

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    Id like to see apb, ffxiv new benches with this updated info as well..maybee tb dosnt help those benches either?
     
  10. Eugene91

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    It makes it sound like the Core 2 Dua [email protected] would be better only no HTT..

    Why not try it out on BattleField: Bad Company 2??
     
  11. M11Ash

    M11Ash Notebook Evangelist

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    Well Batman AA TB makes no real difference on or off :rolleyes:

    hour and a half till crysis demo
     

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  12. tooji

    tooji Notebook Guru

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    I dont think your going to see an improvement in crysis. I had my 2.8ghz cpu oced to 3.8 with minimal distance Try 4 threaded games as turbo boost takes away 2 threads from my knowledge. Open world games are the best test or games with lots of open space/ai

    ones with demos
    Arma 2, just cause 2,
     
  13. PSYCHOTRON

    PSYCHOTRON Notebook Consultant

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    So then the i3 in theory will perform better than the i7 If other games show results like GTA. But well see people do need to mellow out and allow for testing. I pick mine up tomorrow i will try to help out with benches as well when i got time.
     
  14. Arklight

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    3 hrs til BFBC2. will test once installed.. i might just shoot a vid.

    FSB @166mHz for almost 3 hrs no BSOD or crash without turbo boost.
     
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    Ugh, I just tried running FSB @ 166 without turbo boost and it still crashes. :(
     
  16. Shokz

    Shokz Notebook Enthusiast

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    I see no misinformation here, no-one's said that turning off turboboost will help in all situations, and your rant is probably useless since the kind of people who would spread that permanently turning off turboboost is the best course of action would'd read or even notice your post.
     
  17. ViciousXUSMC

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    You guys that are turning off turboboost and see a fps boost, I have something else you can try.

    If you know how to go into the alt+ctrl+delete task manager and set cpu affinity for a program try that and set the program to use only two cores. (4 cores with HT on but make sure its the correct HT cores for the same physical cores you pick)

    If you do not know how to do that, you can use a program I have to set it before you launch the program. Its on my desktop though and I am on my laptop will have to update my post later to add it in.
     
  18. ninja2000

    ninja2000 Mash IT

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    also something else to try. put turbo back on and play GTA4 whilst monitoring your cpu clocks with cpuz and task manager (to see what load is on what cores). whilst GTA running it would be interesting to see what turbo boost is hitting. Maybe with the overclock it is stopping the turbo boost engaging or maybe it is just turboing one core. If we could find out it will help solve the problem to use OC and Turbo.

    When mine arrives I will be doing plenty of testing but unfortunately I am stuck in the build phase
     
  19. vorob

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    if you shoot a video of BFBC2 gameplay with fraps on you would be my hero!
     
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    Does the 335m have a physx chip integrated into it? or did those physx chips go out of style years ago?
     
  22. zhed

    zhed Notebook Guru

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    Bring on the video :p
     
  23. Shokz

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    PhysX used to be a dedicated card, but when nVidia bought it they simply implemented it as software for all their graphics cards (8000 series and above).
     
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    ok cool thanks. i know that i = loser when it comes to what is what with regards to computer stuff
     
  25. Shokz

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    Oh; could someone try Crysis with turboboost off? As present the R2 barely gets anything above the R1 in that game and it's probably due to the GPU, but i guess it's worth a try just to see if it changes anything - having Crysis playable at mostly high settings would be awesome.
     
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    crysis on high on a 11" notebook would be incredible, maybe oc'ing the 335m would help
     
  27. YodaGoneMad

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    Just FYI you can already play it on high as long as you turn down shadows, which you don't notice on an 11 inch screen anyway. But textures, effect, shaders, you can do all high as long as you drop shadows.
     
  28. Shokz

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    The framerate varies between 10 and 20 at a mixture of medium and high settings on the R1, how is that playable?
     
  29. vorob

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    I have completed crysis recently on r1, on all high in 1366x768. It was about 20-25, sometimes 30 (on close levels) and rerely lower then 20 on have shaders levels. Absolutely playable.
     
  30. swedelong

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    Me too vorob. I completed Crysis on med/high settings. For some reason (unlike other FPS games) it doesn't really get unplayable until it dips below around 20 fps. 25 fps in Crysis actually feels quite smooth.

    The biggest tip I can give anyone is to put the -dx9 on the command line when launching it. It runs around 5-10 fps faster in DirectX 9 mode - you cannot notice the difference in quality.
     
  31. Shokz

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    Are you sure? There's YouTube videos of people playing Crysis on the M11x at high and a mixture of high and medium and not once does the fps counter go above 20 (cam footage at that, so no fps hit from FRAPS)...
     
  32. swedelong

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    Absolutely sure. Those videos may be DX10? I play it at native res, Textures High, Shadows Low, Everything else Medium. NO AA. No Sync. I have the CPU OCed and the GPU at stock.

    I would say the early levels peak at around 35fps. The later levels (when the scenery changes a bit ... (trying not to spoil) ;) ) will dip into the low to mid 20s a lot of the time. But still playable and completable though. On an R1.

    So with a bit of tweaking an i7 R2 will easily beat this I would imagine. (Especially when the action heats up and the CPU becomes more of a factor)
     
  33. Shokz

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    Well, even factoring in a greater number of medium settings than the YouTube videos, that still seems more than they were getting, odd >.< Well, still, i'd love to see R2 benchmarks with turboboost off to see if it's at all beneficial.

    Anywho, i have a feeling that even people who haven't completed the Crysis games will have already seen most of the locales through screenshots :p
     
  34. aznguyen316

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    wish I tried DX9 before. Here's my Crysis video, not the best though.. when up high and with lots of open area it hangs around 20 and lower, but funny during the short firefight fps gets higher. DX10 btw, some highs, mediums and a couple of lows.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ghSDA298-8
     
  35. oZEPPELINo

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    Note: this is R1, but thanks for the vid!
     
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    Please, test Just Cause 2 Benchmark. D:
     
  37. faiz23

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    update



    New benchmarks i will post up my complete settings later but i have 162mhz overclock on cpu and stock clock on GPU and TB checked. Updated intel drivers and using verde 257.21 and momentus xt HD

    Statistics
    Average FPS: 29.24
    Duration: 32.55 sec
    CPU Usage: 80%
    System memory usage: 79%
    Video memory usage: 65%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1366 x 768 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: High
    Shadow Quality: Off
    Reflection Resolution: High
    Water Quality: High
    Texture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x16
    Night Shadows: Off
    View Distance: 20
    Detail Distance: 10

    Hardware
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium

    Video Adapter: Intel(R) HD Graphics
    Video Driver version: 8.17.12.5721
    Audio Adapter: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU U 640 @ 1.20GHz
     
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  38. vorob

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    Why can't you just make 2 screenshots? with settings screen and results?

    Still no data on amount of traffic, though it doesn’t affect cpu.
     
  39. faiz23

    faiz23 Macbook FTW

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    what do you need a screen shot for confirmation. The txt file has all the graphic and resolution settings as well as the result. Let me know what you want to see and i will see what i can whip up for you
     
  40. vorob

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    No conformation, i believe you :)

    Just this txt file doesn't contain traffic settings

    View Distance: 20
    Detail Distance: 10
    Vehicle Distance: ??
     
  41. faiz23

    faiz23 Macbook FTW

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    Vehicle Distance was 10 and i will see what i can do for you on a screen shot just bought l4d2 for $7.5 on steam so gonna put some time into that on multiplayer lol. I have a huge backlog with all these steam sales
     
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