Going from R2 to R3 trying to learn a few things before I get it.

Hey guys,

I'm getting my replacement R3 after months of bad replacements on my R2. Unlike my R2 I do not know the R3 bottom to top so I have a few questions that should be pretty basic to answer:

1) Is CPU overclocking done in BIOS, turbo etc?

2) I haven't seen much GPU overclocking threads on it like I've seen for the 335m. Can anyone post some stable overclocks they've had just so I can see a relative average? (I know every GPU is different, ive had 3 motherboards on this R2).

3) I know Throttlestop is pointless for the R3 but any other software out there that can boost my experience with it?

4) Any other basics I should know with this upgrade would be great.


Thanks in advance,
DeeVu

 

1) Is CPU overclocking done in BIOS, turbo etc?

There is no overclocking (I don't recommend the 1-4 FSB OC that you could do). The only thing you can do is install TS and try to enforce maximum turbo. That being said, my turbo-maxxed R3 still outperfroms my OC'd R2 at the same clock speed. Wprime went from 35s to 29s

2) I haven't seen much GPU overclocking threads on it like I've seen for the 335m. Can anyone post some stable overclocks they've had just so I can see a relative average? (I know every GPU is different, ive had 3 motherboards on this R2).

I'm doing a mild GPU OC of 750/950 and temps don't go much past 75C. You can probably get higher than that if you wanted.

3) I know Throttlestop is pointless for the R3 but any other software out there that can boost my experience with it?

Negative ghost rider, see my response to Q1

4) Any other basics I should know with this upgrade would be great.

I can't get my BT module to work at all, it's on, but I can't get it to connect to anything. I'm thinking of calling Dell and refund me 20 bucks.

Be prepared to be happy..............any games that were borderline with the R2 will play much more smoothly on the R3.

 

@massiveoverkill any reason why u don't want the OC in the bios for R3?

 

Thanks. Good to know.

 

Sandybridge is locked down to multiplier OCing only on desktop chips and at least on our mobile chips, you can't even do that. You can OC via FSB maybe 1-4 Mhz, but it's dangerous and not recommended.

 

Ah makes sense. 1-4Mhz won't add any noticeable boost anyway. Thanks for the response

 

i see, ill turn off my OC later thanks for the tip

 

no reason to turn it off if its running just fine.

 

Yeah hes saying the normal OC is fine. The FSB added OC is hurtful.

 

what do you mean when you said hurtful? I've been running at FSB OC since day 1 never had a problem but I'm worried if there are long term effects on this.

 

I don't have the laptop but If I understand it correctly. You OC it in BIOS or something and then you FSB overclock for 1-4Mhz?

 

The only way to OC the R3 as far as i know is through the FSB. Why do you think it is hurtful? Can you explain coz i don't wanna ruin my r3 just because i wanted a slight performance increase.

 

I wasn't the one who said it, it was Massive. I'm wondering the samething. I am trying to learn about this machine because Im used to my R2 and the only way to OC that is either BIOS or setpll.

 

Overclocking: Sandy Bridge Changes The Game : Intel?s Second-Gen Core CPUs: The Sandy Bridge Review

"Unfortunately, PCI Express doesn’t like to operate very far outside of its specification, so any significant deviation beyond the new 100 MHz BCLK causes problems. Though there’s generally a few percentage points worth of wiggle room, the days of taking Nehalem’s 133 MHz BCLK up to 200+ MHz are history"

Once again. With Sandbridge you overclock via multiplier only. Mobile CPU's are gimped (at least ours are) so you don't even have that.

If you want to maximize your performance, you're only viable method is Throttle Stop. It's not an issue as a 2.2 Ghz R3 will outperform a 2.2 GHz R2 by 20% on average, run cooler, and last longer on your battery. Be happy with it, I am.

My desktop 2600 i7 will 'only' do 4.4 Ghz. I'm really not missing the 600 Mhz I could obtain with a 2600K because the system still screams and can handle anything thrown at it.

 

i see..so since i haven't got a problem yet, it means that the PCI express works fine at my OC'd FSB. is that correct? Also i thought throttlestop doesn't improve the performance for the R3? I've been following the Throttlestop thread for the R2 and they said TS doesn't improve the R3 processor.

 

Your PCI express may be working fine now and you may not have problem, or you may enounter stability/corruption from running the PCI bus out of spec. Only time will tell. For me the extra ~100 Mhz doesn't even come close to the possible risks. TS works on my desktop i7 2600, but I just double-checked on my R3 and it doesn't seem to make a difference, but i'm using the latest beta. I'll have to double check using the last beta i was using.

 

Massive, I dont know if you would have insite on this then.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...dybridge-1866-memory-before-looking-fool.html

I checked the chipsets they are using and they are from the same generation. I know for a fact that even 1333 as posted on Intel is just at the time of writing as I have seen this on non extreme processors.

 

throttle stop has absolutely no effect on the R3's.

 

That's what I was told. Enforcing the turbo mode doesn't do anything. Someone post a benchmark between them on a thread a couple weeks ago proving the same results.

 

So memory running at RATED speeds because the chipset will allow it and CPU overclocking are two different things. So who's the fool now? Why do people have to be such pricks?

TS on:



TS off:

 

I'm not trying to insult your knowledge. Just trying to ask.

Isn't the CPU running faster there just because TS is forcing it at max? Wouldn't the CPU normally enable turbo if needed? Isn't turning on TS for the R3 just using more battery by making sure that the CPU is always running at turbo even when it doesn't need to?

Again I'm just wondering.

 

I was referring to Potentiality's post, not yours DeeVu.

Actually turning TS Off isn't enough, I had to uncheck the Set Multiplier for it to actually release the 8x multipliers, so maybe it's a bug. But yeah, TS doesn't make a difference in enforcing max turbo it seems.

 

Alright, I'll keep it on should I remember. Thanks for the help. Much appreciated. +rep