How to pinmod and further overclock the M11x R1 (SLG= Hardmod only)

dang, well if it can only be set at boot then unless you can find a way to mod the bios i dont think anything else will work out.

 

just looked around again and figured id post the only 2 sets i found that might work for us here?

Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1333 Laptop Memory Model KHX1333C7S3K2/4G

Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Laptop Memory Model KHX1066C5S3K2/4GX



good luck with figuring out that PLL DavyGT.

 

I'll take this kit. It's cheaper and stable at a higher speed, at CAS6.

 

Yea, thats the kit I have that I showed in the screenshots. Once I get some nerve up, (worried I might cut the wrong pin) I'll try out some benching with it.

 

I've been comparing both PLLs and I swear, one company must have went "Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V". Both PLLs have the same pin configuration, just some with different names on the datasheets. I suspect TME is still PIN 14.

 

thats what i was thinking... seeing as how DR650SE has the same kit and got his m11x to boot with it, i think its our best shot. plus the heat spreaders will help with the drop in timings to cas6

wondering if i should order my kit now so its here when my M11x arrives.

do you have both versions of the PLLs at your disposal over there or are both of your M11xs using the ICS PLL?

 

I only got 1 M11x with an ICS PLL, that's why I had to repeat both mods.

I'm hoping the SLG is a clone of the ICS. Fairly sure PIN 14 (PCI2) is TME as Silego has a pattern of sharing PCI2 with TME in their PLLs.

 

You think they'd tell us if we ask?

 

They'll deny it and call it their own design. Can you ask for older and newer versions of the datasheet instead? The one I got has Preliminary under every page. We're looking for a datasheet that confirms TME is PIN 14, PCI2. Thank you for contacting Silego for the original datasheet.

 

you may have to give them more info about the application thats being used.

at least thats what the lady i emailed with told me. she said i would need to contact the manufacture of the product that the chip was used in to get more info.

logically i don't see why the PLLs would be any different in the way the pins are laid out. maybe internal differences but if the pin layout was any different it would call for a different motherboard revision. which just doesn't make sence to go thru all that engineering just for one different chip.

i think dell/alienware would more likely have a company produce something similar to the first chip to fit the exact physical/functioning specs.

 

Would troubleshooting count? We need more information about the pins or else it's pretty much blind mod at this point.

 

Well i got another response form their customer support saying that the, "SLG 8SP556V does not support TME function". Is it possible they lock it some other way?

 

Not that I can see. That's why I wanted more datasheets.
Can you open SetFSB and navigate to the "Diagnosis" tab, then select the very last PLL, "PLL Diagnosis" and then take a screenshot? I haven't seen the SetFSB page for the SLG in a while.

 

Like this?

 

Oops, I forgot to add that you have to press "Get FSB" then screenshot. My bad.

 

According to byte 9 its locked if it goes by the same thing as the other pll, i also tried to change some stuff you had in the guide for the other pll but it wouldnt let me

 

I contacted the guy who wrote setfsb and he said: "SLG8SP556V does not have the function that changes FSB with SetFSB". Maybe theres no luck for 1/2 the m11x users then.

 

If abo says it can't do it, it can't do it.

There is still the FSLx mod for the SLG but it's unproven, untested, inflexible (being stuck at 333mhz) and stability is not guaranteed.

 

Well assuming it does work that still puts ram at 1100mhz 6/6/6, which wouldnt be stable. I might be stable with that hyperx ram with cas7 @ 1333, but its still a long shot.

 

The RAM will be running at 1000mhz ((333 x 1.5) x2) if Overclock mode is enabled, in theory.

Without Overclock mode, it will be running at 1333mhz ((333 x 2) x 2), pretty much a pure FSLx mod.

HyperX 1333 RAM has been tested by DR650SE but only at CAS6.

 

Opps thats right, i miscalculated. Where did you find the FSLx mod?

 

I found it myself. There are several variants due to my uncertainty of the effect that Overclock mode will have.

 

I found it myself. There are several variants due to my uncertainty of the effect that Overclock mode will have.

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't find it myself, I based it on this:

I just added that Overclock mode would be necessary for that mod.

 

So just pin7 to a 3.3v point via a 10k resistor and that will keep it at 333mhz when oc is enabled...theoretically of course. And it'll be able to undo it should something go wrong?

Edit: also how were you about to solder a resistor to such a small pin. If im reading this datasheet right, at the bottom it says the pins are .2mm thick and .3mm apart. Seems kinda hard to get a resistor soldered on there without soldering to to a nearby pin.

 

thank you very much!!
i was able to get to 335 FSB 2.01ghz no sweat...
i haven't tried anything higher

 

Yes, you can use pin 12 or 72, both are 3.3v. Undoing is just desoldering.

I used a 1mm tip, a helping hand with magnifying glass and ready for lots of desoldering actions. Despite that, I was reaching for the pump more then I thought I would. But that's because I'm pretty new to soldering and someone with experience will think it's a piece of cake.
There was a component connected to the pin I was soldering, which could have made it easier to solder onto but I didn't know what to do with it so I just went straight to the pin. Yes I did bridge pins but I removed them and redid it until it was close, but not touching.

All that when the same result could be reached with a 1 minute pin cut.
Just wow.

 

I have successfully overclocked... can someone explain to me how to have setfsb overclock on startup... what are the command line commands??

 

There is something not possible with the free version of SetFSB. Only the shareware version can do that with the addition of a few tweaks.

I'm trying to figure out a mod to the 365 profile in SetFSB to allow for overclocking on Windows login.

 

yeah i donated and got the shareware version and figured out the command line options.
this is what i am using: -w05 -s315 -cg[ICS9LPRS387BKLF] (2047mhz)
works great!! thanks again!!

 

Good to see it's working for you.

 

@ DavyGT

im still a week away from my delivery date but if i receive a SLG PLL ill be more than happy to try some things out on mine to confirm your theories. i have a soldiering iron, multi meter and a steady hand!

also i ordered the HyperX 1333mhz Cas7 ram from newegg. im pretty sure its our best shot. plus it came bundled with a 4Gb flash drive. how could i pass that up!

as far as the FSLx mod, is this available on both PLLs?

the only reason im asking is that is actually the way id like to OC if possible. ive always preferred hard mods and bios OCing opposed to software OCing.

 

How can this be confirmed? Have there been other PLLs without a TME pin?

 

Yes, of course. Both PLLs can use the same FSLx mods since they have the same pinout. I'll be thinking of all the possible combinations and expected results with overclock mode considered.

You should consider doing the TME mod first if do get a ICS, just to find the limit.

We can confirm this either by getting older and newer versions of the datasheet to see if TME has been removed or added in and also a blind mod by disconnecting PIN 14.

 

A tip for any of those new to soldering.


If you pre-tin the lead you're going to solder onto the pin it should help. Also pretin the tip of your soldering iron/pin.


By pre-tin, I mean put a small glob of solder on the wire & let it harden. That way, you wont have to use as much solder when you go to solder the wire to the pin. Also try to pretin your soldering iron/pin tip. If you get really good at pre-tinning, you wont have to use any solder when you go to attach the wire to the pin, as it will already be stuck to the wire.

 

Vmod has been done successfully

I've read the datasheet ( klick here) for the voltage regulator of the m11x and noticed that bridging vid1 and vid0 to vgss has no effect while in oc-mode(0.9v = 0110000) as they are already 0. Therefore, I did got for 1.1v as the binary presentation is 0100000. I bridged vid 4 and vid 3 and now got 1.1v in oc-mode Non-oc mode is now 1.0625. The temps are currently at 39°C and the fan does not kick in. Anyway, here a new screenshot with fsb 333:



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Please keep in mind that changing your vcore results in more thermal energy! The m11x cooling system can only handle a certain amount of heat! I'll do more stability testing with the descrete graphic activated.

maddi

 

Nice work do you think you can help me out here

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...tage-regulator-m11xr2-datasheet-included.html

 

Could you guys point me in the right direction for a decent soldering gun for this job?

 

First 3D-Mark Score over 8000:



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Any soldering gun will do this as long as the tip is fine enough.

maddi

 

thats so awesome!

can i ask which PLL you have and which method you are useing? TME/Fslx? OC mode enabled/ disabled?

 

Guys, any news on SLG8SP513V?

And i suggest making some kind of list of those who overclocked their cpu

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oh i see, no way...

 

I did cut the the PLL and oc mode is on.

maddi

 

This might be a dumb question, but at this point it seems as though we have two different mods each targeting a separate chip.

Mod 1:
PLL/Fslx mod targeting TME pin, etc.

and

Mod 2:
attempting to obtain an increased voltage going to the processor by bridging vid 3&4 and targeting the ISL6261A chip.

First, is the above correct? And if so, where on the mobo is the voltage regulator chip located?

I'm hoping to follow along when my R1 comes in at the end of the month and don't want to get to far behind in understand what's going on conceptually.

 

After the pinmod, I did target the ISL6261, it is located unterneath the heating sink, directly to the left of the cpu. DavyGT did post a picture at the clockgenerator-thread:

So yes, it is correct

maddi

 

Oops! Sorry, should have used the thread tools harder.

Thanks for the reply. It and all the work going on in this thread is definitely appreciated.

 

So us SLG guys are out of the loop now?

I read in this thread (aka vorob) that it wasn't possible to modify the SLG, given abo has spoken.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m11x/547341-how-pinmod-overclock-m11x-r1-ics-only-sorry-slg-not-supported-7.html#post7055566

So it's a slow march dressed in black for us then?

 

So that's what I done wrong. Nice work, I'll be updating the OP.

When I do the VID mod, I think I'm tripping OVP- it boots at 1.1v with OC mode but Windows freezes and shuts down the M11x. Looks like I need less voltage. I doubt setting 1 to a VID pin would be as easy as connecting it to a 5v pin.

Read this and made a 1.0125v mod. Still tripping OVP.

At the moment, there is still a FSLx mod for SLG owners can try. It's never been done before, requires soldering, relies on Overclock mode's 2:3 RAM ratio and will give 2Ghz only.

Perhaps Abo only seen the datasheet bavman gave us. TME is not marked there and Silego isn't known for marking TME on their datasheets. Maybe if we can get older/newer versions of the datasheet, we confirm if TME is marked. Or someone could just go all gung ho and cut PIN 14 and see what happens.

 

What is FSLx mod? What's the difference between your mod and this FSLx mod?

 

The FSLx mod involves modifying the PLL mod to use the 333mhz frequency. The TME mod unlocks the PLL for software control and lets the user select the frequency. The FSLx mod applies an overclock of 333mhz only- it cannot be controlled up or down.

 

And this man, from setfsb said that this SLG doesn't even support step by step change of frequency? Sounds like unbelievable fail to SLG owners :/

 

Maybe bavman shown Abo his copy of the datasheet, which does not have TME marked on the PLL. At this point a TME mod is looking unlikely to impossible.

PS: I have forgotten about GTA IV.