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    Is BAd Company 2 just not optimized well?

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by PapaAlfrego, Feb 20, 2011.

  1. PapaAlfrego

    PapaAlfrego Notebook Consultant

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    I have a feeling its takes so much to run this game because its primarily made for consoles.

    Am i Right?
     
  2. Xsonic

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    Hm not really.
     
  3. Voodooi

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    The game is fine if you have a good CPU.

    It's crap on C2D, but plays amazing well on the i5/i7.

    I take it you have the R1? :p

    Same thing will happen for games such as Civilization V (end game), unfortunately :(

    Mind you, only a small handful of games are CPU intensive atm.
     
  4. PC Solutions

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    I have a R1 and it runs great on mine Have my GPU OC'ed and getting 45-58 FPS
     
  5. Digital Dissent

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    Actually the game is very well optimized. The graphics are damn near as good as crysis and fairly often better, depending on the render going on, add to that all the mathematical computations that have to be processed with the almost completely destructible environments and large counts of AI/people playing on a large map, and really Im quite impressed how well it runs. Thing is it offloads alot of processing to the cpu, unlike other games, so adjusting performance settings is the trick.
     
  6. PapaAlfrego

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    haha i guess its just me then...how do i OC my GPU? and does it make a ddifference, and is it safe?
     
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    The CPU is the bottle neck and not the GPU. A faster processor would give better performance. Do you have your processor OC'd in the BIOS?
     
  8. MasivB

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    Naw BC2 is optimized really well actually. Just run the program in DirectX 9 and a low custom resolution as well as Stevens M11x Network Throttle Fix and disable pre-rendering frames & vertical sync in nvidia control panel and you should be able to run the game fine. OC is not required for any game GPU wise because its already really powerful, the m11x just has weak CPU.
     
  9. darkdomino

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    It plays 40-50 FPS for me on medium settings. high settings drops to about 20-30... and doesn't make the game unplayable, but it's not nearly smooth enough for my liking.

    It's not that this game isn't optimized, it's that it's very dependent on the CPU... and that's the one weakness of the Alienware M11x. It handles the game decently though. Obviously if you have the Alienware M11x R1 you may need to play on low... the C2D is not as efficient as i5/i7
     
  10. DivineAura

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    I'm playing all high, shadow@ med and HBAO off at 15fps (explosions/smoky area)~50+fps
    Real nice :)
    I only hate sudden explosions :x
     
  11. L1qu1d

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    how are you guys getting 50+ frames? I barely meet 30 frames on my R1 LOL.

    I would love to see how? I can't barely keep Black ops at a non stuttering and weird tearing/frame drop.

    enlighten me please! I've always wanted to BF BC 2 on my m11x. God forbid any1 fires at me or I fire at them cuz my frames get a massive drop....everything low. Lower Resolution doesn't help much at all.

    This is called a CPU limitation. Or a better example 60 fps @ 1280x1024 and 60 fps @ 1080p Thats a CPU limitation.

    Which is the case for this game. i7s (mobile) have a major advantage since they are threaded. (no not quad core).

    Unless there was a massive patch that reduce FOV or particles or w.e there is I dont think I'll ever be able to call Battlefield BC 2 on my m11x playable.
     
  12. MasivB

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    Yeah, thats bull. You are not getting 50+ frames on the R1 running BC2 in MED
     
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    Nothing illustrates how BF:BC2 benefits from additional CPU horsepower better than this Anandtech review of the R2. The i7 R2 gets ~40% FPS gains in BF:BC2 compared to the C2D R1 - and that's without overclocking and ThrottleStop!
     
  14. MasivB

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    Yeah to note those were not using ThrottleStop either so theres I believe another 20% ontop of whatever
     
  15. PapaAlfrego

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    So does resolution matter? because they are all full screen for me meaning no matter what choice it always takes up the full screen. should i go higher or lower?
     
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    On an R1? Not a chance. Even with extensive tweaking you are lucky to break into 30fps average on the R1. The C2D just isn't quick enough. GPU overclocking doesn't help one bit as the game is CPU limited.

    Dropping the resolution also wo'nt help as you are actually putting more of the strain onto the CPU as the GPU is just sat there barely doing anything.

    BFBC2 is one of the only current games to really take advantage of Tri / Quad core CPU's. To a degree it could be better optimized (especially if you have a Fermi GPU) but compared to a lot of PC games current out there it is very good.

    TDU2 on the other hand is a perfect example of a poorly optimized PC game....
     
  17. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    On my R1 I am getting about 25-30fps with Level of Detail at Med, everything else Low, 8x filtering, 1280x768 res. Its playable but can't wait for my R2 arrive at the end of this week. Definitely need the OC to play it on the R1
     
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    Yes on my R1 I have gotten a min. of around 45 FPS and I topped out at I think around 53 FPS. Before I play I turn everything off and OC my GPU and OC my CPU.
     
  19. MasivB

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    Resolution shouldn't determine full screen or not unless its running in windowed mode. For example if you are running BC2 in windowed @ 1024 x 768 and your desktop resolution is 1366 x 768 you will see BC2 as a window on your desktop. But if you used 1366 x 768 windowed it will be still window mode but fullscreen.

    So pretty much all you need to know is that the resolution doesn't determine fullscreen or not it merely designates pixels dedicated to the process of that application. Less pixels means less rendering which is why lower resolutions tend to have higher framerates than say the native 1366x768
     
  20. L1qu1d

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    48 FPS in your sig with cod 4 and you say 53 in BF BC 2 ...bull.

    W/ video card OCed and CPU oced, everything max power, settings lowest of low and resolution lowest I still barely break 30, and the game is still Unplayable.


    Seriously ur full of it, and your giving ppl false information.


    Users looking to buy R1 for BF BC 2, Don't I have 1 it doesn't run it well at all and neither Black ops to be honest.

    Its a great netbook but Dont expect those games to ruin fluent or anywhere near.
     
  21. PC Solutions

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    Im not giving anyone false information. I am only stating what my system does. Not telling anyone to do anything or that they should be getting specific FPS's Everyone's system is different. Mine is with a fresh install of the system restore. I just purchased it off a friend and that is what I am getting.

    I ONLY SAID WHAT MINE SYSTEM DOES!
     
  22. L1qu1d

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    that doesn't make it true, and this is a forum so some1 will see ur post and say Hey i'll grab the R1 instead since it pretty much doubles the R2's performance by the looks of it and its also cheaper!!!


    Anyways just wanted to call bs.

    Thanks!
     
  23. PC Solutions

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    Im an not telling anyone to go get a R1 because of my settings and what I am getting during game play. Your right this is a forum and people have a right to post what there system is getting. That is the point of this post isnt it??? Everyone is giving there input with what theres is doing and optimizing BC2
     
  24. L1qu1d

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    Yes but yours doesn't count as info. It counts as spam.

    Its just plain and simply untrue. You can say w.e you want but I'm (and I'm sure any other person on this forum will) call you out on anything thats BS that will make other R1 user ask why their system doesn't perform as well as your magical nearly 60 FPS miracle.

    K thanks for playing.
     
  25. PC Solutions

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    Spam huh. W.E. is right Not playing the back and forth childish games.. I know what mine does and only stating that.
     
  26. L1qu1d

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    This isn't about Childish, but if you want to point fingers, I dont make up random numbers.

    P.S

    BTW I just Finished Crysis on my P1, Its only 25 fps but I mean good enough for Pentium 1.

    ;)
     
  27. MasivB

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    I guess you're right I can't know for sure if you are getting 50+ FPS but if you wanted to prove it you could take a screen shot with frame rate in screen. Also I would suggest recommending you're settings to other users on the forum since most R1 users can barely get over 20 FPS in BC2 so I'm sure they would really appreciate you're help. Chances are if you can attain 50+ FPS another person can as well, but you are right, each computer is different, we can see this in benchmark scores but you are stating a massive FPS boost as relative to the other R1 users, so there must be something you have done to increase the performance..
     
  28. BatBoy

    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You folks need to grow up and remember this forum will not tolerate inflammatory posting. Review the forum rules - next time you have an issue, report it.

    Learn to disagree with each other. Some of you have been here long enough to know this isn't acceptable.