M11x could have Mobile fermi GPU soon?

i had a chat with the customer service of alienware.

i directly asked them when will the alienware M11x get an upgrade on the GPU part, for example a GTX430M (or 440m, 450, 460m) or something similar, they said to me is a matter of months, maybe two or three months.

what are your throughts about this? is it really possible that soon we get a new GPU for this baby?

 

Wouldn't that run way too hot?

 

from what i've investigated, it should be based on the new GF104/GF108 chip which can be very healthy for a notebook. on an article it says there will be gtx440 gtx450 and gtx460, and maybe this means that mobile version of this will come too.

sources: here

but at the moment these are just rumors
ill post here whatever information i get on these weeks

 

Surely that would defeat the whole point in the mobile gaming laptop m11x which is battery life?

 

The GF108-ES spotted in the MSI FX700 at Computex should be the GT 430M.



http://translate.google.com/transla...bo=1&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbs=qdr:d

 

we will have to wait what happens these next weeks, but i dont discard that one of the low end dx11 gpus might be equivalent to what was 335M on its time.

more than put more power, the key would be to have a change on gpu architecture, which makes it compatible with new tecnology (tesselation for directx and opengl).

 

Thats what switchable graphics are for.

They sure switched CPU's pretty quickly (C2D + NB to Core i series) and I would think it would be a more significant change in terms of hardware modification then switching to a new GPU.

 

interesting

 

I'm talking about mobile gaming while on the go while using the dedicated graphics card, a feri would kill the battery surely....

 

though, how much of a performance increase will this be?

 

Those numbers for the GT104 are old and recent reports suggest that the mainstream GPUs Nvidia had planned previously have been "canceled" and new versions were developed.

The new GT104 specs are for a 336 (cut down from 384) GPU with 256-bit or 192 bit bus versions.

Final Specifications of the GeForce GTX 460 unveiled

 

thanks for updating,

i imagine, that a good mobile version for 11mx could be a 200 core (cut from 336 to 200) based one.

 

The battery already dies pretty quickly while "gaming on the go". You still want a outlet with your power brick near by if you are doing anything for too long.

 

Not likely.

GF106 is looking like it will be the ~200 core part and I'm expecting it will probably be the GTX 460M and GTX 470M. A new 192 Core/192-bit GPU was spotted in the ASUS Lambo VX7 and a GF106-ES with unknown cores was spotted in the ASUS G53. These should be ~75W TDP cards.


I'm personally expecting GF104 @336 cores to be skipped initially and maybe show up down the line as an improved GTX 485M.


If the M11x gets a "Fermi 2" GPU it will be the GT108-ES or a derivative of that...say with 72 cores.

 

even when the 335M has 72 shader units too ( specs), the change of architecture would be great for MIMD CUDA programs, and tesselation features with opengl 4.0.

but a couple of extra shader couldn't harm hehehe

 

I can squeeze around 3-3.5 hours depending what game I'm playing on, I would say thats pretty decent for mobile gaming.

This is with lights off and bluetooth/wifi/wwan off as well.

 

I can get a hour or so of Team Fortress 2 or so. I'm not that adventurous to try anything more than that though ( I use the computer for other things on the move too !) You can get a good 2 hours of gaming on WiFi or so unless you are playing an intense game like BC2 or Crysis Wars.

But yeah...Bring on M15x gaming capability into this chassis, lol! That and the rumored 4 core UM processor (Or that 1.8GHz ULV i7) would be golden for mobile gaming!

 

Is it smart to cancle/return my i7 order ( still in production) and wait out for this?

opinions please ^.^

 

you might want to ask yourself how much of the new features of the new fermi architecture you might need.

i'll explain myself. in my case, dx11 is not the only reason why i would like a small 11' notebook with a Fermi GPU, also i would make use of the new feautures at CUDA 3.0 and OpenGL 4.0 on Linux, which the 335M cant. Under these circumstances i will wait for the upgrade which can be a couple of months.


What is your case?
depending on it, you could halt your order for this coming month so we get more consistent information.

 

If you always wait for the next upgrade you will wait forever. There where people 6 months ago that waited for the iX upgrade, now we are 6 months from a GPU refresh, then we will be 6 months from a new CPU refresh (quad ulv? woot) and it just continues forever.

This is why I bought my M11X at launch, because I wanted one and knew that waiting for a refresh is never a win. The current M11X plays nearly everything, so if you want one get it now, you can never tell what it will be like in 6 months. You could wait, get no refresh, and still be 6 months away from one.

 

GF108 isn't do for release until August or September.

 

I couldn't agree with you more

I personally am not buying another PC until I start seeing USB 3.0 in them.

 

I agree with everyone. It is right that there will be always upgrades on the m11x.

Ill take my i7 laptop and then in few years to come ( prolly around 2~4 years), i will upgrade.

thnx for the comfort lol

To Phinagle: Do you mean the GF108 will be available in the m11x ( i know i know...no one prolly knows)? or for any notebook out there?

 

i already played the waiting game once for the i series processors and the 335m seems powerful enough, plus there is always overclocking

 

I mean August - September is when Nvidia is rumored to be launching the GF108.

There's no telling where (besides in the MSI FX700) or when it will show up after that.

 

Benefits of GPU overclock? for games not benchmarking? Will there be a FPS increase if the GPU is overclocked?

 

I can't see why there wouldn't be. It will still be minimal though.

 

Not really a noticeable one, I am sure you can look around to find some benchmarks, but I have seen some guys who spend hours OCing their M11X GPU then they boot up a game and get like 1 FPS more.

It probably varies some by game, but I haven't really seen anyone report any substantial increases from overclocking.

 

Personally I don't think its going to have that much of a performance increase. Because these ( NVIDIA GF104 Specifications Leak - Industry News - Overclockers Club) are desktop GPU, and usually the M version of it have half the memory bandwidth. But again it would have a higher clock speed than the 335m.
But I could be wrong. Only time will tell.