M11x phased out... sorry guys.

Alienware's M11x is no more, bigger is apparently better -- Engadget


no m11x R4 in the future..

 

Haha, the amount of people who bagged me out for saying that it wasn't a very popular model and would be discontinued without an R4 revision... Eat it.

 

Get the Sager NP6110 / Clevo W110ER

11.6" 1366x768
25W dual core i5/i7 and 35W quad i7 - ivy bridge
GT 650m 2GB GDDR3

 

R.I.P M11x series. You will always have a special little place in my heart.

At least they went out on a good note with the R3.

 

I still think a 11 or 12" laptop with a FHD screen, dock connector and specs of the 15x would be awesome.

 

LOL the bitter irony but yes I saw you say it on numourous occasions so +1.

I am glad I didn't wait and like I mentioned to people waiting you can always sell the older model when the time comes because these babies do not fall in price, especially NOW they will retain their price very handsomely!

Shocked though, 650M + Ivy ULV would have been so special in one of these.

Most will but 20watt more consumption, no backlit keyboard and less battery life its not made for gamers on the move.

 

I hear that!

I just purchased my M11X r3 about a month ago, I'm very happy with it!
It's fantastic, it's light and portable and handles all that I throw at it with ease... To be honest, I kinda like it better than my M15x simply because it's such an awesome little machine that I am blown away with!

Only qalm is it gets hot when it's on my lap after a while... But besides that, it's fantastic!

A shame there's no R4, I'd really like there to ba an updated version with an eSata port, but alas.

Thanks for the update.

 

W110ER wins without firing a single shot!

I guess it's an M11x killer after all.

 

Wasn't the whole point of the M11x to be an ultra portable gaming notebook? I bought my M11x specifically because of the small size and good specs so I can game while flying etc. It would be sad to see them phased out, I think the M14x would be too big for me so I'd have to look for other laptops.

Kinda feels like I have to ditch the love of my life for someone else who isn't nearly as attractive, loving etc.

 

I went from a 14 inch to a 15 inch notebook because I couldn't find one with a high enough resolution screen.

Small laptops, especially with a dock connector, will always be better then big ones .

 

Well, in saying all of that, SURELY there's mod's that people can do if they want to keep their systems for a few more years, I reckon I'd be able to keep this as is for 3ish years, even if it's just my carry-around... I really am happy with it. I'll just upgrade my M15X for as long as I can or get a bigger desktop/desktop-replacement.

Anyway, I'm sure there's people out there who will find ways to keep their machine's kicking for a few more years and mod them to their desire.
There has to be a matte screen out there which people could put on themselves, and if there are motherboards/ULV CPU's that the M11X can handle, I'm sure people will happily upgrade it themselves...

I'm not one for a real technical analysis and the likes, but I'm sure we'll still see these machine's still kicking it for a long time yet!

 

It's a dumb decision to out phase the M11x. It was a unique cool laptop they could be proud over.

Maybe Alienware is not doing so well, and need to focus their effort on fewer machines. I don't buy any of the other excuses. Anyway, sad indeed.

 

This is still all kinds of sad. It looks like I'm getting that clevo 11" this summer. It was probably phased out due to its low price point/profit margin. Why sell a laptop that does 90% of the m14x's job when you could sell the higher margin unit? Problem is that I was never interested in anything bigger than the m11x from alienware

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Not really surprised at this, I will say that the m14x needs some better features to compair to the m11x....

First would be to get rid of the dvd drive, expand the battery and add a 2nd hdd into that space.

 

*pours 40 out*

 

That's 20W more MAX TDP. It can sip power on battery and likely get 5-6 hours battery, if not more, running off IGP.

 

Well, I shed a tear in either eye when I read the M11x was to be discontinued.

I've had a good run out of my M11xR1... maybe I should get my free replacement monitor with hinges quick before the DELL minions forget what an M11xR1 is.

I still think there is a place for a slimmed down UltraBook M11x, but guess I'm wrong.

 

When you are gaming on battery which is what this model is made for it will make a massive difference, if we only get 2-2.5 hours when it is flat out at the moment consider 1.5 hours tops on the clevo/sager no different to a desktop replacement.

The M11x also consumes more than 10-12watts at basic use when everything is turned off and down so the clevo will certainly consume more than that, around 20 minimum and more if you are going to put in a 35watt CPU.

I can see it being very noisy and hot as well with that much power in such a small space with only one small fan.

Biggest factor, no backlit keyboard. Fail. Most usage in bed at night while mrs is asleep or watching tele with light off. Its a must have.

This news is not all bad for me, my m11x just became extinct so when I list it on Ebay in the future in MINT condition I will get the best price for it and the most return because people will be looking for them once they vanish off the shelves.

On the downside for me those that went for the I7 just made a very very good move as they now have the best possible model.

Time for an update, pick up an R3 now while they are cheap if you are still going strong on the R1 the R3 will be a worthwhile upgrade.

The hinge problem has apparantly been fixed on these as well.

Finally Settlers Online Beta is superb for those that are interested, I am totally addicted its a great game!

 

Damn... Should've gotten an i7... Meh... Still happy.

 

Too bad, getting the CLEVO now 100% sure of that. Thanks AW for making my decission much easier.
Maybe they can now put out a 13" model that can replace the M11x.
I would rather have seen them get rid of the M14x ( nothing personal to M14x owners).
Sad day!

 

That's a good idea about the hinges, I should probably try and get that as well while I still can.

I'm sad to see the m11x be discontinued. I only have an R1 but the thing is amazing, for it's size and battery life with it's power + alienware aesthetics (backlit keyboard mainly) you just can't beat it. I was hoping for some sort of R4 to come out to upgrade to later down the line but I guess I'll have to stick with my R1 and maybe upgrade to an R3 at some point.

 

True, but 75% of the time I just use my M11xR1 for coding (sans GT335M) and in New Zealand the M11xR3 i7 is USD1869.00, but be something to consider as they get to the run out prices, but normally Dell just withdraw the notebook from the New Zealand Market long before the real price drops are seen.

Probably just invest in a multi-processor GPU mobile phone (Adreno 225 or better) and an ASUS P8Z77 motherboard and all the trimmings and wait to be exciting by some yet unseen truely portal 'notebook' a few years in the future.

My 2 year old M11xR1 still gets 6 hours battery on Intel GPU, has a VGA port(woow I hear you say) and most of the time a 1.6GHz processor.

It works fine via DisplayPort and HDMI on 24" IPS monitors and I haven't even upgraded to an SSD yet.

Besides, it's really hard to shot an old dog with those big blue sad eyes... opps no... they're just LEDs..

Now that I would consider a return to DELL for.

 

They wont put out a 13" model with the M14x on the market, now a 12" model...

 

Blasphemy!

 

Take the DELL 13" XPS, add a thicker bottom panel, beefier can, dedicated GPU, some AW symbols and lights and BAM! New 13" AW.
Just an idea.

 

I am really sorry to hear the M11x line will be no more. I have an M11x R2 and even though I have far more powerful computers at home and at work, it's the M11x that I use most of the time. I know there are alternatives out there but I feel like Dell/Alienware is taking a step backwards with this choice. I hope they replace it with something similar in the future.

 

AW just doesn't innovate their design often enough. I feel people got tired of the chassis and horrid display.

 

m11x was a great little machine. Wish they continued to make them

 

No, the Intel HD 4000 is as powerful as the GT 540m, which you will use on battery. Probably about 2.5 hours, if not more on battery. Otherwise plugged in it has the performance of more than a GTX 460m.

I hope it doesn't consume more than 10-12 watts. My AMD A8 notebook consumes only about 10-12W when surfing web, medium brightness, power saving. i3 ULV netbook consumes 7-8W surfing web.

I'm sure you could put a ULV in there even if desired, as long as its the same socket.

Only noisy when on full tilt, temps are showing to not exceed 75C at full load. Otherwise not any more noisy than the M11x with regular use.

To each their own, but to dismiss the Clevo if you like the M11x is a mistake especially considering there will be no M11x update. Clearly you are making assumptions without looking at the details. Take a look over the Sager forum, tons of info on it. Backlit keyboard is about the only thing it doesn't offer. There will also be some vendors selling with a matte screen.

 

Please don't rubbish when people could be listening it is currently sitting 56 places below the 540M GT on notebookcheck and they confirm it is on par at stock with a 330M GT and it is 2000pts lower in 3DMark06 and 400pts lower in 3DMark11 and with overclocks it sits 50% less powerful than mine. It also will not be able to game any intensive games because of its lack of bandwidth and shaders and so will hardly differ from using the current integrated GPU which can run nearly every game you would use it for anyway.

Lol you cannot compare a 17watt I7 to an Atom or A8 CPU they are in totally different leagues and I am talking about proper usage not switching everything off including the turbo (which your A8 does not have). The M11x can handle all tasks at full speed at around 15watt without any performance loss but you are talking about just basic browsing/integrated gaming which is not what these models are made for and not what the new Clevo/Sager 11 inch is going to be made for it is going to be for gaming on the move which is where it will lose with a 35watt CPU draining the battery down.

If you wanted to just browse on the move you would buy a netbook and have it running for 10 hours for an inch of the price.

Do a survey on it and see how many people would say i would rather have it and not use it than not have it.

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I am not saying this clevo/sager is not going to be a good deal but coming onto the M11x forum to spout off that it is better than an m11x is misguided and you WILL be told otherwise by people that own it.

 

Have to say glad l got this when l did Nothing out there looks as good or runs as well for me.

Ideal for my "little" trips abroad.

 

Regardless of where it sits on notebookcheck, it's not accurate there, primarily because of lack of good data yet. And it should be able to manage pretty much any game at 1366x768 native res. Hard to tell for sure until we get actual Ivy Bridge chips to bench! In any case benches are showing to exceed the AMD 6620G which is pretty darn near the performance of the 540m.

All Llano AMD (A6/A8) CPU's have turbo, you can even lock in turbo state if desired. The A8 is comparable to an i5-2520m in performance. And my point is my 45W CPU machine can run at 10-12W, so the 17W should be able to do better than that. I can tune my machine to consume less than 30W and still game with great performance.

That may be, but there's always CPU throttling so you can restrict speed. A 35W CPU running at 1GHz will be just as effective as a 17W CPU and at comparable power consumption.

The whole point is you're making assumptions without having all the data or facts. Nobody has all the data and facts at this point, but it's coming together nicely.

I'm not spouting off. I didn't know letting people know about an alternative to the M11x was forbidden, especially considering the news that the M11x is being phased out. Hell I even owned an M11x for a while. I don't even own a Sager at the moment.

The Clevo is better performance than the M11x. There's no debate there. You can't dispute specs of 35W i5/i7 and GT 650m vs 17W i5/i7 vs 540m. Battery life and performance on battery have very little data at the moment, but it's looking to be promising.

Show me any existing survey on a backlit keyboard. Sure many AW fans are used to a backlit keyboard now, so they expect a backlit, but if it was that large of a feature need it would be in pretty much every laptop out there. I'd prefer a backlit keyboard as well, but I'm not going to not buy a laptop because of it.

 

I think I will leave you to it up there on that little cloud of yours thinking an integrated GPU is as good as a dedicated 540M GT. The facts say otherwise but think what you like because it is ludicrous really to compare something with 16 shaders to something with 96 and dedicated VRAM not to mention the bandwidth difference. A Troll claim. The 6620G being 55 places below the 540M GT and 37% slower....

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-4000.69168.0.html shows benchmarks + camparison.

First leaked benchmarks therefore position the HD Graphics 4000 (in a fast quad core desktop CPU) on a level with a dedicated Nvidia GeForce GT 330M and therefore above the AMD processor graphics Radeon HD 6620G.

35Watt CPU vs 17Watt CPU when your gaming on a battery. No argument and if you only want to browse and light game I stand by what I said above buy a Netbook for 1/5 of the price.

So back to what I was saying no backlit keyboard, higher wattage leading to poorer battery life. Much better warranty and much better looks.

 

You wouldn't need to do a survey to conclude that people would be preferable to having a feature that's controllable afterwards to not having it at all. A more meaningful survey would be "would you buy a laptop with [a backlit keyboard] even if it means having to pay a premium or getting an otherwise technologically inferior system?"

 

It is only technologically superior because there wont be an M11x R4...

You cannot compare the R3 because it came out over a year ago. But for gaming notebook it is lazy not to put one in, pair that with Clevo's warranty and as above lower battery when at full performance no thank you.

 

why are you comparing the 540m to the IGP? Its the 540m vs 650m... you should be comparing the Ivy to the Sandy, all other TDPs are the same. and you are not required to get a 35W processor if battery life is your concern... get the 25W if you are really concerned about battery life then your only out 8W TDP which will keep battery lives within 0.5-1.0 hrs of eachother.... btw knocking someone for compairing CULV with atom is almost as bad as comparing CULV with standard voltage... really not the same category

 

I may have been a bit overzealous about HD 4000. It is still a decent iGPU compared with other GPU's in the past. I can play BF3 with the 6620G and the HD 4000 is supposed to surpass that by a bit. But until someone does some testing even wiht the GT 650m on battery, we won't know, and may be surprised. I was a bit disappointed by HD 4000 at first, but since you likely can use 1866 RAM, maybe even 2000, it will only improve performance.

I just think the Clevo a good alternative, and I say, about time. 13" would be ideal, but you don't have that choice (yet). It's too bad AW is dropping the M11x though because it would be good to see what they could offer in a compact gaming notebook with Ivy and Kepler. The competition between them would be good.

 

Personally I think Alienware are idiots dropping it and all the worst for the rest of us as well. No other company can get away with charging this much for something that is not worth the price but has the looks to cater for it, the only explanation is that they got wind of the Sager/Clevo model and realised all of their business is going to go or maybe their business plan was to produce it until another came along to compete against and then drop it and think of something new.

Even so an R4 with new casing, a matte screen and a ULV + 640M would still have won me over as the jump from 540 - 640 is huge so they have shot themselves in the foot by not considering it. The M14x is good but most want the best of both worlds and choose the best of both worlds because 2 is better than 1 and sometimes you can get them both for a good price, my clevo + m11x is no different to the price of a single M18x with the same hardware.

If Clevo/Sager continue with the 11 inch model I will consider it next year when they refresh the Ivy as the models I own only last a year until the credit card is paid off and then its new time

 

Maybe Alienware will just refresh the M11x with an Ivy CPU and keep the 540m for the time being. Perhaps they are cooking an M12x or something and are just a bit behind schedule. I always thought the M11x was a good seller. Perhaps not.

 

That was my thought also on another post that they would consider an M12x which could house better hardware and even a 900p screen which would be very nice. But then they must justify the M14x if the M12x was near enough as good.

If I was in charge I would scrap the lot and go with M13x M15x M17x and for god sake bring back the 16:10 aspect ratio for the 17 not to mention everything would have matte options AND all models would come with Alien landing strip lights around the entire outside of the base so that it looked like it was hovering on the table or surface + an alien laser beam that would shoot out of the laptop and print itself on the wall of the room you are sitting in....

....but then I digress.

 

hmmm... m11x is out, m10t in? and by m10t, I mean a 10 inch gaming tablet....

 

Well Alienware, you just lost another customer today. Was thinking about buying the next version of m11x but I guess that will never happen.

 

I agree 110%. I was a bit disappointed in the M11x only because of the crappy LCD it came with primarily. An M13x is about the right size to be portable yet not too cumbersome, can support 1600x900, and probably have a better quality screen overall. The M15x and M17x would be great complements.

But with the M14x R2 just released, it contains the GT 650m GDDR5 version, so maybe they figured the M11x would have to run with the 630m and wasn't worth it. I dunno. Who know their reasoning.

Now you're getting silly.

I agree

 

I was one of the few who bought the Asus G70S...that says it all

 

What is it with me and alienware?

Last year i was looking at either a Clevo P150HM or waiting for a refreshed m15x. The m15x gets discontinued.

This year i was looking at either a Clevo W110ER or an m11x r4. Again, alienware discontinues the line i was looking at.

Maybe i'm just not destined to own an alien lol

 

If you want a Clevo the new 150PEM/Vortex III looks top notch and comes with a backlit keyboard in the UK they are selling off old sandy bridge models paired with a 675M for mega cheap at PC specialist. Or least mega cheap for the UK

 

I'm considering the P151EM myself if I decide to go big, but waiting on Kepler 660m over the Fermi 670m. Although I was checking dimensions on the Clevo 11.6" and it's not much bigger than the HP DM1 I own. It's a good size. And man, M11x is completely gone off the Alienware site now. I figured they'd phase it out, but I guess they just flipped a switch.

 

if the clevo was ddr5 and had a backlit keyboard, i wouldnt hesitate, but now I'm looking at the m14x r2 with 650 ddr5 and y480 with 660m

 

When they leaked the Clevo they claimed it was Gddr5 but it was never going to be because of the heat compared to Gddr3. I am suprised the M14 R2 is coming with Gddr5 actually maybe they have sorted out the cooling then to be able to handle it.

The 660M does appear to be a sweet spot although I think the UK model will only house the top end in the PEM's and the 680M will be very interesting if the early figures are as good as they claim to be.

I still want to see a 10 inch gaming netbook we missed out on the ION 2 in the UK as they didn't ship the US version of the Asus Eee Pc so would be very nice to see a ULV and 620/630M into a netbook. Wont happen though.

 

I am seriously pissed off at this decision. I've been asking Dell to include a proper screen on the M11x (as opposed to the mirror they use now), and to allow people in Portugal to order it from Dell directly (as opposed to through retailers whose warranty and prices suck).

Now they go and stop making the thing.

I started an IdeaStorm topic on this. I doubt it will cause any effect, but if you want to voice your discontent, go ahead.
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