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    **M11xR1 ONLY - NVIDIA 263.08 (WHQL) Dell Driver released 3/16 - Discuss here....

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by stratocat0, Mar 16, 2011.

  1. DrGoodvibes

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    My clocks are Swiss made. :D

    I do get a small amount of artifacts at these clock rates when running 3DMark06. More so when I use 900Mhz and above. :D

    I'd NEVER use these clock rates for anything other than testing.

    My 'I'm all-right jack' clock rates are 540/1296/850 which are used for playing my game(1) and anything else that benefits from a good mid-range GPU.

    It's a good question though, as I'm gob smacked when I read M11x owners state that, 'my M11x GPU keeps failing or is really slow'. And then you find out they have a GPU memory clock of 948Mhz!!!!!¹ This just resets to base clock rates the moment they engage it. Plonkers!!!!

    As an aside, I have no problems switching back and forward between Nvidia and Intel using Nvidia 263.08. Just for the record.

    ¹ - Maybe two people in the world who have a memory clock that can maintain 940Mhz on an M11x with GT335M.
     
  2. m3talfingers

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    3DMark Score 6848.0 3DMarks
    SM2.0 Score 3176.0
    HDR/SM3.0 Score 3321.0
    CPU Score 1451.0
    Game Score N/A
    GT1 - Return To Proxycon 27.27 FPS
    GT2 - Firefly Forest 25.67 FPS
    CPU1 - Red Valley 0.46 FPS
    CPU2 - Red Valley 0.74 FPS
    HDR1 - Canyon Flight 33.05 FPS
    HDR2 - Deep Freeze 33.37 FPS



    this is on 550/864/1290 on gpu.
     
  3. IRSmurf

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    Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! Please bring 2560x1600 support to the Alienware M11x! I've had to sacrifice Intel HD graphics (ie battery life) to run NVIDIA's latest drivers in order to run 2560x1600 on my Dell U3011.

    I'm downloading now. Please work.
     
  4. IRSmurf

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    Cancel that excitement. I cannot switch from NVIDIA to INTEL using the keyboard hotkey. (FN-F6) 1. Not only that, when I right click on my Desktop, the menu takes at minimum 45 seconds to load. And there is no NVIDIA option in Desktop's context menu (right-click). I even did a clean install. Something is wrong.

    UPDATE: Re-running the driver install, choosing to do another clean install, fixed the switchable graphics problem. Still no 2560x1600 support, I'm afraid.
     
  5. DrGoodvibes

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    I think I understand what you're saying, but I've been running a Nvidia 260.63 switchable Hybrid driver set (with 2560x1600 ¹) for the last six months... and you haven't... been running a hybrid driver set. That's sad. :)

    ¹ - 2560x1600 is the max. resolution of the digital ports (HDMI/DisplayPort)
    The max. resolution of the VGA port is 2048x1536.
     
  6. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    What does Device Manager look like? Try reinstall the driver again, but you're going to have to have the nVidia graphics enabled to do that.

    Try uninstall nVidia graphics from Programs in Control Panel, and restart. Then, go to Device Manager and check Display Adapters.

    Hopefully you have two listings of Standard VGA. If you get the Intel WDDM driver, right-click and click uninstall and tick "Delete the driver software for this device." If that is not available, right-click, Update, Browse, Let me pick, and select Standard VGA.

    Restart if asked and then try install the driver.
     
  7. AlienTroll

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    Sir! Thanks for posting, I give you Rep for making my Fallout: New Vegas running better! :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
     
  8. IRSmurf

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    Yikes. Thank you for posting this. Now I will begin hunting for more information, again. Here is my post from January: http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...-not-support-2560x1600-over-display-port.html

    I installed the same driver a second time, once again choosing a clean install, and I am now able to use switchable graphics. Hooray.

    However, Dell's driver still sets my maximum resolution to 2048x1536 for my Display Port connected U3011. While running standard NVIDIA drivers, the 2560x1600 option was available. I even reinstalled the OS using the recovery DVD while using the last drivers and I still experienced the same problem. No 2560x1600 support. :( Dell's driver for the U3011 is installed... and working when I'm using any NVIDIA-provided graphics driver. The incompatibility is only experienced when using Dell's hybrid drivers.

    [​IMG]

    I cannot even create a custom resolution using NVIDIA's Control Panel:

    [​IMG]
     
  9. ejohnson

    ejohnson Is that lemon zest?

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    Having some problems with this driver.

    I tried to install it the other night with the 335 card running, it said this driver does not work with your version of windows. So I switched the intel card and it installed. Everything worked fine, fn f6 switch worked great, even after I restarted a few times. Last night when I turned on the computer it was on the intel card, so I tried to switch it with f6, nothing happened... so I looked in the device manager and it lists the 335, but no way to switch it. So I uninstalled and reinstalled it all. It would switch now, but when I entered games it made the resolution 800x600 :( I reinstalled again, still no work. So I did a system restor to before I installed the drivers and now it works.

    So I am running the old driver because the new one wont install right.

    Any tips?
     
  10. IRSmurf

    IRSmurf Notebook Geek

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    I installed the driver while NVIDIA graphics were enabled. I chose to do a clean install, meaning it scrubbed NVIDIA drivers from the computer prior to installing the update. I had to run this process twice to make them work.
     
  11. ejohnson

    ejohnson Is that lemon zest?

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    I tried it that way the 2nd and 3rd times with it not working. I am going to give it another shot tonight after work.
     
  12. IRSmurf

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    Problem solved. What did it take? I have no clue.

    I downloaded the latest NVIDIA driver beta (Verde 267.24), installed with clean option, and the NVIDIA graphics were running the laptop's screen at 800x600. I couldn't take it higher than 1024x768.

    I re-ran Dell's newly released driver, for the THIRD time, with the clean install option selected. This time: Bam, 2560x1600!

    Woohoo!
     
  13. DrGoodvibes

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    Who's a luck boy then. :D

    You had me looking through Dell driver configs trying to find screen size 'filiters'. Didn't find any. ;)

    The Nvidia GT 335M specs do say the digital ports support 2560x1600. (VGA is lower)
    And I thought it a bit hardcore if DELL physically coded in filters to reduce this.

    I do my 'clean' install in safe mode (F8 at boot) that way any Nvidia drivers are genrally going to be released and not locked.
    Then, as prompted I restart the notebook and continue the install in 'normal' mode.

    I've NEVER had a problem installing/re-installing known working Nvidia hybrid driver sets, and I've installed a few of them.

    And before I start all this, I create a restore point. :)

    How to suck eggs with Dr Goodvibes. :D
     
  14. IRSmurf

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    And then I restarted my computer and 2560x1600 disappeared. Mutliple restarts haven't brought it back. Back to 2048x1536. Wait, no. Back to nvidia drivers. Bye-bye battery life. /drama
     
  15. DrGoodvibes

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    And if you have the U3011 setup and the OSD set to HDMI/DisplayPort and the cable connected AND then you power on the M11xR1 with Nvidia enabled.

    What happans?

    Some of the docking stations at higher screen sizes need to be on to allow configuration when the notebook is powered on.

    I have a couple of U2410 and 1920x1200 is the max screen size available at the desktop. So the screen size would seem more dynamic based on what you're connecting to than an static set of screen sizes.

    And Device Manager -> monitors does see the monitor as a U3011?
    My U2410 shows up as a U2410. U3011 monitors drivers up to date?
     
  16. IRSmurf

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    Thank you for the tip. It was very close to the solution.

    I have to wait until after I have logged into Windows to connect the U3011. Any earlier and I get that 2048 crap. Also, the NVIDIA driver helper crashes occassionally when the U3011 is connected... I don't believe that adversely affects anything else.

    I have duplicated the error and the solution three times, so I am confident connecting the external monitor AFTER logging into to Windows is my solution. What a pain in the butt. I won't be buying another Alienware that uses anything but drivers made by NVIDIA.
     
  17. Thermogenic

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    For anyone who is wondering, flash acceleration is still broken on intel - I guess that's to be expected since it's the same driver. Flash 10.2 is especially broken on intel - you can't even switch to full screen in youtube videos without it hanging.
     
  18. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    Anybody else getting OpenCL, CUDA and PhysX as reported in GPU-z for the nVidia GPU untick themselves after hibernation/standby or switching?

    Also, I can't seem to use extended desktop with a monitor connected via VGA when using the nVidia GPU (I can use them separately but if I click extend it automatically snaps to 'Show desktop only on 2').

    Extend works without issue when using the Intel GPU. I haven't tried connecting a HDMI monitor.
     
  19. DrGoodvibes

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    Flash 10.3 Beta.

    One could always try the beta version.​


    Minimum Graphics Driver versions

    As stated many times, most web browser suppliers are urging people to upgrade their Graphics drivers

    The following is the minimum suggested versions
    Nvidia: 257.21
    AMD: 10.6​

    Other
    @namaiki - Will check it out and see what happens. Not close to my U2410 multi-port monitors at the moment.​
     
  20. Mucchan

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    I have the same issue with OpenCL, CUDA and PhysX unticking in GPU-Z after switching back to discrete from integrated. PhysX options in NVidia Control Panel dissapeared as well.
     

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    M11xR1 SU7300 BIOS A05 Nvidia 263.08/Intel 1994

    U2410 Monitor(s). HDMI, DVI, VGA, DisplayPort, Composite and Component all on one monitor so not hard to test. :)

    Intel GMA mode.

    Didn't do anything flash, just plugged in the VGA cable and then extended the screen with a Windows+P. Seems to work using the Screen resolution panel too.​

    Nivida mode.

    Again nothing flash, just plugged in the VGA cable and then extended the screen with a Windows+P. Seems to work using the Screen resolution panel too.

    I didn't adjust any screen sizes or anything, just powered up, switch to Nvidia, plugged in the VGA cable and then Windows+P to extend.

    By default it seems to mirror the screen.

    The Monitor I'm using has a 1920x1200 res and tends to take whatever is thrown at it.​

    Other

    The HDMI and DisplayPort are not available in Intel GMA mode as I have observed. It's only the VGA port that is available in Intel GMA mode.

     
  22. Catzoo

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    Well , are thoses drivers worth install ?

    I mean , every games works without a crash , i can easy switch from nvidia to Intel GMA with On screen display ..

    Why bother installing thoses drivers if you get so many problems with youtube on 1080 , crashes , random install ( what the dell , which program have to install three times with finger crossed to work well ? ) ?

    The only thing that could make me change is better battery life , and more FPS in WOW and SCII ( i forgot about playing TF2 on my R1 , it's just impossible where L4D looks ok , it seem that source engine is not meant to be play on the M11X )
     
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    Thanks. Re-installing the driver again seems to have fixed the issue.
     
  24. DrGoodvibes

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    Have no idea what you have installed, but it has been put about that in order to maintain 'best support' for GPU acceleration in browsers Nvidia version 257.nn and above is suggested.

    If you're still on the old DELL Nvidia 172.nn version it may be a good reason to upgrade.
     
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    all those games are bottlenecked by the CPU in the case of the M11x. the new video driver would probably show no improvements what so ever because of this.

    in other games where the Gfx card is the bottleneck you might notice some improvements

    for some extra source engine performance, the good old PINMOD helps a lot. :)
     
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    I've had no problems playing TF2, L4D of L4D2 on my non-overclocked m11x R1. I don't know why you are having problems.
     
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    L4D and l4d2 runs pretty good , but team fortress looks awefull ... to have decent FPS , i have to use a non-native resolution with everything on low ... :(
     
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    I keep having this issue with these drivers where sometimes after I turn my computer off with the intel graphics activated, when I turn it back on, sometimes the nVidia card will not work, ie I can't switch to it, the system tray icon doesn't appear. In the device manager, it says that "This device is not working properly." Sometimes it will resolve itself on a reboot. I tried reinstalling the drivers doing a clean install in safe mode but it didn't fix it. Has anyone else had this problem?

    EDIT: Also, in the device manager it says that "Windows could not load the drivers for this device."
     
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    Sorry if anyone has answered this already, but when I boot into Windows, I don't see the nVidia hybrid sign in the taskbar tray. Pressing FN+F6 does nothing. I go into the Device Manager and it says "Windows cannot load the drivers". I have solved this once by reinstalling the Hybrid drivers. But I am not happy having to do that every time.
     
  30. DrGoodvibes

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    You guys impress me. How do you do it? :confused:

    I've used over five different Nvidia Hybrid driver sets (including the current DELL one) over the last year and never had any problems other than driver features and version levels.
     
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    DrGoodvibes, add me to your list! Because I have the same problem, ran the driver for a few days and then boom today, I turned on the notebook and couldn't switch back to the 335M. I didn't do a clean install as such, instead I did the custom install which included the clean install function. For now will reinstall like AlienOnions has...
     
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    I noticed improvments in WOW and can now run Ultra on every setting. before I could not run water on ultra just fair.. it said to update graphics card .. so the first thing I checked was this and indeed can run on ultra now..
     
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    I didn't read the whole thread,


    My issue is that i can no longer fn+f6 graphics swap with this driver.
     
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    Try reinstall the driver. You might have to uninstall it first.
     
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    Anyone have issues with BSOD with this driver? I keep getting multiple BSOD's through out the day and WhoCrashed points to Nvidia Kernal Mode Driver.
     
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    I've been running it for a few days now with no issues. Previously I was on the stock 197 driver. I didn't do a custom or "clean" install; just the basic.
     
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    I have done Clean installs of it and always have had BSOD problems with it. Went back to the 197.72 driver to see if I have problems with that one also or not.
     
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    I have the same problem...I already uninstall it-reintstall it and this issue continues... Now i cant Fn+6 to switch graphics card.
     
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    I had this happen to me for the first time yesterday. Previously the drivers had been working fine. Booted up in Intel mode and at some point tried switching to nvidia. Fn+F6 wouldn't work so I checked my system tray and found that the hybrid icon was missing. If it happens again I'm reverting back to 197.12.
     
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    Guys, there's no need to uninstall previous drivers before installing this one.. The installer specifically mention this.

    Mine works perfectly.. This driver fixed an issue I previously had with switching between cards.
     
  41. DrGoodvibes

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    Had Nvidia 263.08/Intel 1994 running for a week without any issues.
    No BSOD. Just good clean fun.

    My 3DMark06 tests using Nvidia 263.08 did not indicate any boost in this one area of performance indication.

    Now installed Nvidia 260.63/Intel 2020 as this gives me native browser GPU acceleration in IE9.0 where the Intel GMA version 1994 didn't.

    Chrome 11.0 and Firefox 4.0 also allows for browser GPU acceleration when Intel GMA version 2020 or 1994 is used. Firefox 4.0 has to have browser GPU acceleration forced with Intel GMA as the version is to old, but it does still work.

    Opera 11.50 does not support browser GPU acceleration in Intel GMA version 2020, but does work OK using Nvidia GPU.

    Mozilla suggests Intel GMA version 8.15.10.2202 or newer will support browser GPU acceleration without having to force it. This may also allow for Opera browser GPU acceleration support too, however that is not listed anywhere I know of and still may not support the require WebGL, OpenGL 2.1 it's looking for.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m11x/564122-m11xr1-browser-gpu-acceleration.html
     
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    I had the same problem, and It was caused by switching to integrated graphic card anytime during a session(tested it a few time; it doesn't matter if you keep the setting or not before shutdown). I kept a restore point right after the driver upgrade just in case, but after about five restores I was tired of the situation. So I went into the safe mode, manually uninstalled the new Nvidia driver and installed it again(with clean install under the safe mode), now I am free of the problem. Hope that will help you guys.
     
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    witnessed this problem only one time after installing this new driver, but everything is okie now, actually I have no idea about this issue cos' I didnt do anything to fix :|
     
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    Been having a few issues after around a week running the 263.08 driver from Dell including laptop occasionally not going into standby when the lid is closed, Nvidia GPU occasionally not switching off while on integrated mode even after 20-30 mins as well as occasional BSOD after waking up from standby.

    I have been using the modded 258.96 hybrid drivers before and I've never run into all these issues I just mentioned, but now I have all these issues after switching to the official drivers so I'm quite puzzled by this.
     
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    To those who have problems switching back and forth using Fn+F6. I noticed that the problem only occurs when I have my power profile as balanced. Whenever I switch it back to performance, the graphics mode arrows in the task bar pop back all of a sudden and I can switch back. I don't know why but this seems to be the case for me.
     
  46. ejohnson

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    So I installed this driver 6 times tonight. I now can switch back and forth but all it does it say it switched... the intel card is always on, i dont have my 335 anymore :(
     
  47. namaiki

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    The Intel GPU is always enabled.
    Does the nVIDIA GPU never appear in Device Manager?
     
  48. ejohnson

    ejohnson Is that lemon zest?

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    Nvidia is in the device manager, it says its working, but when I f6 it goes to high perf mode..... but still uses the intel card for everything. So all my games go down to 800x600 and run like crap....

    Dell also took down the old driver so I cant install a fresh copy of the old ones to fix this. I can do a recovery and get my old drivers back, but now I get random frame drops like I have a really high ping (actual ping is 30-40)

    I have a new hard drive on the way now, so when I do a fresh OS install I am going to try it again.
     
  49. namaiki

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    What do you score for 3DMark06 when the nVIDIA card is supposedly running?

    Also, here's a link to the previous driver.
     
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    I dont have any benchmarking software. I will download some tonight when I get home and see what I run.

    Thanks for the link.
     
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