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    OCing GPU voids warranty?

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by Eaglebomber, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. Eaglebomber

    Eaglebomber Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm just wondering, because I played around with underclocking and overclocking for about an hour, but quickly reset my settings. But now I plan on returning my M11x... Can I not do that now? Please help me.
     
  2. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    has no effect on warranty. may i ask why you plan on returning it?
     
  3. Eaglebomber

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    It's hard... I love the machine. The size, portability, and power it contains... But it constantly crashes, ans the only way for me to fix it is to underclock it. I know this isn't an issue for most, but for me it is.

    They promised a certain amount of power, and this compy isn't getting there. I only have enough money to get one computer for a while, and I have to make sure I'm 100% satisfied, ya know?

    But it's just so dang awesome... I haven't completely made up my mind yet.
     
  4. thegh0sts

    thegh0sts Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    crashes like BSODs? i've been getting those lately :(
     
  5. Eaglebomber

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    I get entire system lockups when playing games. I have to do a hard re-boot everytime in order to it work again.

    In the past 2 days I must have done it 20 times, no joke.

    And I'm really eyeing the Asus g53JW is the same price, and it's a ton more poewerful. And like I said, if I only get one purchase, it has to last.
     
  6. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    is it an r1 or r2? just ask dell for a replacement.
     
  7. thegh0sts

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    i found that some games don't like the overclock like dead space 2: it just dies on 550/1320/900 but runs without issues on stock. Crysis 2 can run on the overclock as well as COD:BO...strange...

    i am very annoyed about getting a lot of BSODs and i have no idea why.
     
  8. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    the r1 gets a higher and more stable gpu overclock iv noticed, try running 540/1250/870. should be a bit more stable on the r2.
     
  9. AlienTroll

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    What OCing are you doing? The bios? Or are you using a software PLL style OCing program, which is not possible on the M11X :p. If its crashing from the bios, just tell Dell, my old M11X R1 got BSODs every second with the OC on, now I have a new M11X R1, haven't got a BSOD in months. If you somehow managed to use software OCing, then that voids your warranty. I bet Dell can't tell you OC'ed ;).
     
  10. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    overclocking doesnt void the warranty, im pretty sure. and it is possible with the r2, the software is called setpll, and you wanna oc in the bios to 166 first, then use setpll to go further. r2 only. pinmod for the r1 only.
     
  11. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Both R1 and R2 can/will need to use PLL software for further overcl- hey... you should know this, otherwise 3Ghz is impossible.
     
  12. saturnotaku

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    BSODs usually indicate a RAM issue. Try running memtest86. You should be able to create a bootable USB drive for it.
     
  13. thegh0sts

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    i have only used memtest for 1 pass: what's the best number of passes?

    also, what's the best method of testing?

    EDIT: mine came with Samsung RAM - is that a good brand? if not i'll get some corsair RAM instead!
     
  14. saturnotaku

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    Ideally, you should let it run overnight. Alternatively, you can pop out one of the modules, run your system as usual and see if it BSODs. If so, put the stick you took out back in and pull the other one. Lather, rinse, repeat. Alternatively alternatively, you could just buy the new RAM and swap it in. If the problem still persists, it might be time to call Dell.
     
  15. thegh0sts

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    fair enough. corsair RAM is only $49 AUD per 4gb stick in Australia so that's a good price....but would love to save that cash for my US trip. but will give your first suggestion a go so I am about to sleep and will let memtest do it's thing for 7 hours :)
     
  16. DrGoodvibes

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    One could remove the existing RAM and swap it over in the memory slots.
    May do nothing, but at least you know it's seated.

    Have multiple memory slots(4) on a motherboard on this one system and just swapping the memory cards around solved all sorts of weird errors, GPU hangs/drop-outs and BSOD. Go figure.

    One could also remove 2GB and run on just 2GB and check it's not a faulty memory card as has already been stated.

    A memory test is also a good/required check.

    This is my first post using Firefox 4.0RC1. Just thought I'd share :D
     
  17. Eaglebomber

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    Just so everyone knows, I was talking about OCing the GPU, not the CPU. I've only OCed how far the BIOS allows me.

    So do I void warranty if I OCed the GPU? Or could Dell even tell?
     
  18. Eaglebomber

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    And I'm not talking about a repair warranty, I'm just talking about the return warranty.
     
  19. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    they wouldnt ever know if you overclocked it anyway, and alienware supports overclocking the cpu, not sure about gpu but most of us overclock and we get our stuff replaced no problem
     
  20. DeeVu

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    Same thing happens on my R2. The issue is the shader clock. Try underclocking the shaders by about 50-100 and then try it. I am testing stability of underclocking shaders and OCing the other clock speeds to see how that affects the lock ups.

    Edit: scratch that. It results in worse performance. I keep my GPU at 450/980/790 and my CPU at 2.8GHz and thats how I roll through most games right now. Still plays new releases on medium/high settings without much problem. We will see how future-proof this OC is.
     
  21. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    see, thats why il never buy an r2... you should NEVER have to underclock your gpu to get it stable with games. thats really stupid, and if that happend to me if i went and bought an r2 i would take it back the same day no questions asked.
     
  22. Eaglebomber

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    And this is the reason I'm returning it.
     
  23. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    yeah i understand, but have you owned the r1? from the r1 to the r2 you wont notice speed improvements in most games couse there mostly gpu bound. i love my r1 and i can overclock the gpu pretty dang high. =]
     
  24. CapnBoost

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    I ran in to driver crashes for a couple of weeks, especially on the 26x drivers. Have you confirmed that it's the hardware and not drivers?

    My GPU was stable at max overclock on EVGA precision under the 257 drivers.
     
  25. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    it could be a little of both, every m11x is different in terms of overclocking, try going back to your old 257 drivers and see what happens. also most of the r1's iv seen can clock higher with the gpu. the r2 cant go quite as high for some reason, i wanna blame it on optimus lol.
     
  26. thegh0sts

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    I am leaving my CPU at stock but will keep 2 GPU profiles through Afterburner: a stock speed profile and an OC profile (550/1320/900).

    I also found it strange though that on the default BCLK of 133MHz that it still reached the max multiplier of 17 which takes the total speed over the advertised speed to 2.26GHz....so no real need to OC the CPU as I didn't really see a performance increase on GPU bound games.
     
  27. DavyGT

    DavyGT Overclocker

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    Based on what data, other then simple observation? Did you note stability testing (Some users just copy settings...).
    What have you done to prove it's Optimus making it not clock high?

    That's the single core Turbo multiplier. It won't stay for long without Throttlestop.
     
  28. DeeVu

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    I have own the r1 and r2. And from personal experience have found the R2 to be buggy with optimus when OC'd. From what I read in threads I've started is that when you OC the shader clock then optimus for some reason switches off the GPU momentarily and locks up the game you are using. Therefore forcing a lower clock than on the R1 which has no optimus.
     
  29. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    @DavyGT

    simple observation, reading and posting on here iv noticed r1 owners achieve a higher gpu overclock then r2 owners. and like what deevu just said.
     
  30. minnus

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    What program is used to OC the GPU?
     
  31. ajslay

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    i use evga precision
     
  32. thegh0sts

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    I used EVGA but trying MSI Afterburner. they're the same since they're using Rivatuner tech!
     
  33. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    afterburner cant clock as high, on the gpu clock theres a limit at like 550 mhz lol
     
  34. thegh0sts

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    i have it clocked at 525/1260/850 as that seems most stable for most of the games i have installed. before it was 550/1320/900 but that caused games like bulletstorm and dead space 2 to freeze and it also made getting out of the game really hard.

    i still have the stock speeds as one profile that it defaults to at boot then i just use my shortcut keys to overclock.
     
  35. AlienTroll

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    SetPLL works on M11X R2? So much easier then attempting pin-mod.
     
  36. ajslay

    ajslay Overclocker, PC Builder

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    yeah it works on the r2, and for me its not, id rather do a hard mod, that also gets me some experience as im going to college to be an on-site computer repair tech.
    the pin mod is so simple. unless your unlucky and have to do a volt mod and the wrong pll