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    Possible BFBC2 performance boost

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by PapaAlfrego, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. PapaAlfrego

    PapaAlfrego Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys!


    so while i was messing around with BFBC2 today i pumped my FOV up to 90. This gave me a huge performance boost, only problem is the screen looks messed up (i know thats supposed to happen) But then i put my resolution to the lowest possible (1024 x 800) and the widescreen affect counteracted the FOV appearance but still gave me the performance boost. FOR ME the game went from barely playable to extremely playable, given that i still have my GFX set to low (except high textures and 8x AF)

    give it a try!
     
  2. M11x ftw

    M11x ftw Notebook Consultant

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    Thats weird. Increasing the FoV should decrease performance since your gpu has to render more textures and so on. Decreasing the resolution would increase you frame rate, so that may be the increase there.
    Can you post fps before and after?
     
  3. PapaAlfrego

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    on the contrary, i heard increasing FoV increases performance, and for me it has, but il try to get some FPS rates
     
  4. deadboy90

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    Changing the resolution hasn't made the slightest bit of difference to me, I play it regularly at 1366x768 and get the same fps as I do at 1024
     
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    Hmmm interesting..this could be worth trying out on other games that are CPU dependent..
     
  6. LockOn

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    i have to agree with m11x ftw increasing fov should decrease performance in games
     
  7. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    Here's a good link for performance boosters: BFBC 2 Tweaks and fixes

    FoV is mentioned.
    Could be a nice paradoxical boost. Just like the fact that placing the NVidia control panel to quality boosts FPS over setting it to performance.


    edit: I'll ask my brother to try it on his R1 sometime. Being that my GPU and CPU are barely past 50-75% on BC2 I do not think I will notice much on my R3.
     
  8. M11x ftw

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    Well that means that your cpu is limiting your fps in that game. Generally though, decrease in resolution means increase in fps and vice versa.

    And Deevu, I can understand how the nvidia control panel works (using more cpu instead of gpu, therefore resulting in decreased performance for cpu limited computers). However, FoV, increases the amount of area required to render. Increasing this just increases the work for the gpu.
     
  9. Zuu

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    Holy. Crap. I'm still hoping they got it right with BF3 and its optimization.
     
  10. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    I completely understand. You never know what may increase FPS these days based on how its optimized. As for this game I found that FoV decreased my average FPS by about 3-5 on my R3. So you are correct. I was just stating not to doubt the validity of a claim without testing. He stated it worked for him so why not check? That's all :)
     
  11. brooksie

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    I tried these on my R1 and FOV decreased my fps. Also made it look a bit wierd.
     
  12. brooksie

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    I get better fps at 1024 btw
     
  13. deadboy90

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    dude, i tried this and actually got playable frame rates on high settings! (no AA of couse)
     
  14. PapaAlfrego

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    wait, so setting Nvidia to Quality increases performance?
     
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    So, set everything to high in the nvidia control panel (or ON) except for pre rendered frames, and then set the FoV to 90. I did notice a more stable framerate rather than a spike from 60 frames, down to 10. I'm now seeing about 25-40 FPS average even with 2 tanks firing near me, spraying a light machine gun like crazy and getting tubed.

    (Looking through a sniper scope gives about 52 FPS on average :D)

    This does in fact lead me to believe now that the GPU is no longer waiting for the CPU to send data (Due to such a constant framrate) while still looking better and actually being able to calculate MORE data at one time rather than, like I said, pushing out all the data it can as fast as possible and then waiting on the CPU.

    EDIT: So, I tried a few other games with these settings, (MW2, Fallout New Vagas and World of Warcraft) Both MW2 and Fallout ran better, such as battlefield did, HOWEVER, WOW Ran about 50 fps LOWER than if I just had it on performance, which makes me think that if a game isn't restricted by the M11X's CPU (Such as Battlefield 2 IS restricted) than the game will simply just look better. But again, on WoW I saw a constant framerate around 40 to 50 (High settings except water) even in the cities such as Stormwind and Org rather than the usual 100+ FPS while lvling or questing, and then down to 20 or so in cities.
    Maybe this is because the GPU is just trying to keep everything running smoothly rather than using all its power, all the time?
    Let me know what you guys find!
     
  18. PapaAlfrego

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    So after doing what DeeVu said to do with the Nvidia control panel, and putting the FOV back down to 55, AND setting AF 8x, and textures to high, i get better performance than what i originally posted. It might have been that i forgot how BFBC2 performed before haha. but im getting pretty stable frame rates, LETS HOPE BF3 IS OPTIMIZED TO
     
  19. DeeVu

    DeeVu That Compsci/Psych Major

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    Bf3 is more optimized than BC2. At least from what I played in Alpha. Got better frames in it than I did in BC2
     
  20. PapaAlfrego

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    i know this is probobly a stupid question, but i have optimized the living hell out of my R1, do you think that i will stand a chance with BF3 at all? keep in mind, graphics mean absolutely nothing to me.
     
  21. DeeVu

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    Yes for sure. It will run. My brother has his R1 and uses the 270 series of drivers (discrete option in bios) and got about 20-40fps on all low with a lower resolution.

    10-15 in heavy explosions but beyond that it was good.
     
  22. PapaAlfrego

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    are you serious? you sir just made my day, i was going to have to buy for consoles EEEEEEKKKKK
     
  23. PapaAlfrego

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    Here are my system specs:

    OC Su7300 1.73ghz
    Gt335m OC slightly
    4gb's of RAM

    And tons of optimizations : like your Nvidia Control panel one, maximum performance (derp) ughh i went into the system and set sound priorities to minimum using StevenxOwens thread. and no doubt BF3 will have system config changes that can be made.
     
  24. DeeVu

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    Should be fine. Unless they change the code and de-optimize it between now and launch.
     
  25. PapaAlfrego

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    thats pretty awesome, im so stoked to hear that your brother's R1 could handle it.