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    Questions for M11X R3 I7 Owners ONLY

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by ZK85, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. ZK85

    ZK85 Notebook Guru

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    1.How are you finding the M11x R3 for gaming?
    2.Does it run really hot to the touch when you play latest games?
    3.Is it true that it has a very loud fan noise when gaming (I am told sounds like a pulsating hairdryer)?
    4.When you play games that have text on the screen (like talk options in fallout or skyrim) does the text appear really small or is it easy to read?
    5.Have you had any issues with your laptop since you got it? (please mention how long you have had it for as well)
    6.Have you ever regretted buying your m11X r3?


    I want to hear from everyone who owns or owned an M11X R3 with an I7 and NO ONE ELSE, and thanks for understanding :)
     
  2. Yiddo

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    1. Superb for every game I have thrown at it as usual the poorly optimised ones suffer. Even the newer games Skyrim/Battlefield 3/MW3 all run perfectly well with slightly lower settings.

    2. Mine does not go above 60oC CPU or 75oC GPU under a full stress test so no I do not feel the heat and really only did when I blocked the fan and it went above 80oC.

    3. It is fine upto the point of intensive use and once 70oC is hit the hairdryer kicks in and without a lie it is noisy but can be covered up by the sound of the game your playing or headphones. This much power in such a small space it needs to be blowing that fast, I have done testing with the fan and it overheats if not.

    4. The resolution and screen is spot on you will not have any problems at all fitting things on screen, this is the same resolution some older laptops had on a 17 inch screen so it looks spot on. As an example world of tanks with its clogged UI even fits fine.

    5. Only one with me was the keyboard which could have partly been my fault, Dell agreed to send out a replacement free of charge within 48 hours. Spot on warranty service.

    6. Not for a second, coming from an Eee Pc 10 inch netbook trying to game it was impossible the R3 hits the nail on the head in every way.

    There are lots and lots of good points the only other bad is the screen be aware it is very reflective and does glare if you intend to use it outside or near a window.
     
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    I second the above. Never had a real problem with it. Runs everything, except bt3 on ultra, still looks awsome on the small screen. Also i had a matte screen cover that takes out most of the glare which are very easy to find. SSD is a must though. I put an intel 510 240gb in mine and its quiet, rapid and i can just carry it anywhere. Never regretted it for a second. Even though it cost a bomb as i had it not long after release its pretty much a bargain now. You can always wait for the next one, but then that'll be super dear. So take the plunge and you wont regret it. Just make sure youve got an external usb 3.0 hdd for the major storage.
     
  4. Rishwin

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    First off, there is almost no difference between the i5 and the i7 so i have no idea what your aversion against hearing anyone elses opinions is. They are both dual-cores with hyperthreading; the i5 is 100MHz faster stock, the i7 is 100MHz faster turbo boosted, the i5 has a faster internal GPU.

    So please, get your facts straight first because you've essentially told the majority of the people in this M11x section to specifically ignore your thread.

    1. Excellent, it has become my main machine, i play everything on a 42" plasma @ 1920x1080.
    2. No, just some warmth through the keyboard but almost all laptops have that.
    3. No, there's nothing pulsating about it. It gets loud but nowhere compared to a hairdryer, people who say that clearly are not very familiar with hair styling appliances.
    4. No, everything is displayed crystal clear.
    5. No issues at all, not so much as a blue screen or random restart. I've had mine for 6 months now and traveled across the entire globe with it.
    6. No, not once, and i never will. Not for the $550 i paid for it.
     
  5. hermitmaster

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    The i7 2637m is 1.7ghz, 2.8ghz turbo on one core, 2.5ghz both cores loaded. The i5 2467m is 1.6ghz, 2.3ghz turbo on one core, 2ghz both cores loaded. You're thinking of the CPUs used at launch. In the current offerings the i7 is a good bit faster overall, but it won't make any measurable difference in most games. Please get your facts straight.
     
  6. darkdomino

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    posted in wrong section. Sorry guys.
     
  7. Rishwin

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    OK, well i don't have an i7 so i wouldn't be aware of the changes they made, and i had no idea they even use the i7 2637m now. But i stand by the performance gains being minimal, and other than slight clock differences they aren't much different. They are still both dual-core 32nm ultra low-voltage CPU's with hyperthreading.

    Having a i7 2637m actually makes the i7 a worthwhile upgrade then, but still far from being worth the extra $300 :/
     
  8. ZK85

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    I think I have the right to ask whatever question i like, if it alienated people its not my problem or my intention, i want to know specifically about the i7 becuase that is the setup i am looking for and there might be issues that are specific to the i7 or the i5.

    I told the "majority " to ignore my question for my own reasons, i want more specific answers, i dont want i3 and i5 input not cuz i think they are inferior but cuz i am not thinking of getting them.

    I did not disrespect anyone so i would appreciate it if you respect my question and my right to ask it.

    Thanks anyways for your input.

    amazing answer, thanks a lot :)
     
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    1.How are you finding the M11x R3 for gaming?

    Better than I thought, currently playing LA Noire, Aion, Eve and mortal online on it. All games run on high or a mix of med/high.

    2.Does it run really hot to the touch when you play latest games?

    Yeah, but not uncomfortably so.

    3.Is it true that it has a very loud fan noise when gaming (I am told sounds like a pulsating hairdryer)?

    It is very loud, it stays on most of the time in some games as well, but it's a matter of opinion if it bothers you or not, after a while I forget about it.

    4.When you play games that have text on the screen (like talk options in fallout or skyrim) does the text appear really small or is it easy to read?

    I can read all text at arms length and I play a lot on mmo's, which inherently have a lot of text and I don't find it a problem. (Note, I don't have any eyesight problems).

    5.Have you had any issues with your laptop since you got it? (please mention how long you have had it for as well)

    Bought it in late January and so far have no issues.

    6.Have you ever regretted buying your m11X r3?

    Not for one minute.


    I used to play swtor and did a few fraps vids http://youtu.be/WxPYljob_S4
     
  10. ZK85

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    thanks! Will do :) i have been thinking of getting an ssd in there but i was afraid 256 wont be enough... Tho i guess i could use a 3.0 external hd for storage :D

    Thanks for the answer, funny you should mention swtor i was actually really looking forward to playing it on the m11x :p
     
  11. Rishwin

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    Yea... and many of us here are actual IT professionals who can provide crucial insight regardless of which specific unit we currently own. Yea there "might" be issues specific to the CPU's, but you won't know, because you are asking the questions here not answering them. But FYI no, there are no CPU specific issues at all.

    I couldn't care less if you alienate people, my point is that there is barely any difference at all between the i5 and the i7, and you will actually get MORE responses from the i5 users because there are simply more of us around. You can take the information you gather from the i5 users and apply it to the i7, as i said BOTH the i7 and the i5 are dual-core 32nm ultra low-voltage CPU's with hyperthreading. Architecturally, they are absolutely identical.
     
  12. ZK85

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    I still fail to see how it is your concern who i ask? I know there are more i5 users, i just don't want their input, its simple as that, you cant tell me both i5 and i7 are the same, similar maybe, but surely not the same, i know there is barely any difference but still there is enough to matter to me and i am sure to the other people that decided to buy the i7.

    And again i dont want to ask the opinion of an IT, or any other professional who doesn't own the specs i want in the device i want.... Why? Well i am sureu will see how often they tend to disagree over the same topics by visiting any forum page.

    I wanted and still want the simple and straight forward answer from owners of the exact same laptop as the one i am getting, and i think the faster i7 with the 2 gb graphic card should run hotter than the i5 and i3, and even if it doesnt its still none of your concern who i ask or how i ask a question.
     
  13. Yiddo

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    Ok,.. sure... I withdraw my review from the other page then as I have an I5 and am not worthy to comment. My views have nothing to do with the M11x R3 I have no clue or idea what I am talking about and the difference between the I5 and I7 is so major that whatever I say is complete nonsence and I didn't spend an entire evening going to all the effort to post a complete review of the M11x R3 either.

    Trolls come in all shape and sizes.
     
  14. hermitmaster

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    Just a few quick observations from the owner of an R3 i7:

    I've only had it for about a week, but I previously owned an R2 and most recently I had an XPS17 with a 555m and an i7.
    It plays Fallout 3 and NV at native resolution on ultra 2xAA very comfortably (I have the GPU overclocked to 800/1000/1600). I scored 9907 on 3dMark06 and hit 81C max on three runs.

    With a Crucial M4 SSD, boot and shutdown times are under 30 seconds. As for heat, the palm rest does get warm after gaming for a bit, but never hot (I may be biased, you could cook an egg on the palm rest of my XPS while gaming). The fan is a bit on the loud side but it's only a minor annoyance and it's typically only while gaming.

    I've had no issues with any of the Dell/Alienware laptops I've owned.

    The only regret that comes to mind is the fact that I just heard about the Sager NP6110 after I bought this.
     
  15. ZK85

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    Dude seriously? why be like that? I asked a specific question, help is welcomed and not forced on anyone, I even thanked you for your comment and said you had an amazing answer even tho it said you had an I5 under what you wrote.

    I am not against who wants to help, but to come here and try to tell me I am wrong for asking something specific...

    I am not even against I5 owners, I just want a SPECIFIC answer from SPECIFIC people... seriously whats wrong with wanting that??

    I am sorry but that is BS I have the right to ask a question however way i see fit just like you have a right to answer it or not.

    I am not trolling anyone here, just standing behind my right here, I am thankful to those who help but i wont take criticism where it doesn't belong.


    Thanks man, lol Yeah i know what you mean, I could BBQ over my current HP laptop... so yeah hearing that is a big relief :D

    I guess i would have to invest in a nice headphone/headset then... but yeah sounds really awesome.

    In your experience does the SSD do anything for FPS? or just loading time?

    I heard about the sager as well, but the power that it holds must come at a deep price, either heat or VERY loud noise when cooling... I guess?

    thats the only reason i am not considering it :p
     
  16. Yiddo

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    What is being said about the I7 not being worth is true though and the reason why there are so many people that have the I5 because the I7 gain is not worthy of the price tag.

    Those that have an I7 normally choose it specifically to make use of the extra processing speed but in all honesty there is next to no difference in real life terms and you would be better off considering the I5 with an SSD and ignoring the I7 2GB marketing because if you compare the two you will see no difference. Unless you have too much money to know what to do with it.

    I didn't actually see you said I7 users only on the first page otherwise I would not have commented at all you would do better to ask the opinion of M11X R3 users and their opinions of the I7 because you are going to get very mixed views.
     
  17. Rishwin

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    Really? Your exact words were, and i quote you, "I know there are more i5 users, i just don't want their input, its simple as that". Yet you ask why he retracts his comments? I thought that was exactly what you wanted?

    I'm just trying to figure out your thought process behind this.
     
  18. ZK85

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    Oh i know :) I read a lot and a lot and a lot about how it doesn't really matter and for the most part i agree, BUT I do a lot of editing and i do work often on photoshop and a bit of 3D max + AutoCAD (I know, I know, I have my desktop for that, but its nice to have something on the go)

    And i will end up hooking it to my HD TV when I am using it sometimes, so that lil bit more processing power helps with all those, plus resale value should be higher. :)

    but... I had worries on the heating and fan noise that comes with the faster I7 and 2 GB ram over the I5 offering. My current HP runs hot enough to BBQ on and I want a laptop that wont burn my hands and lap, heat is a big deal breaker for me.

    and meanwhile I am sure the I5 preforms just as well as an I7 for gaming I hope you understand my need for an I7 better now and why heat is an issue i worried about with the I7 vs the I5

    and thanks for answering :)
     
  19. ZK85

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    My surprise was the offence taken, and the tone in his writing, he sounded hurt or insulted and I meant not to insult anyone.

    I mean how can someone take much offense to something that is clear from the beginning? I did state it in capitals didnt I? The man was very kind and tried his best to answer my question because he didnt notice what i said in the question and thats fine its human not to notice things and i am very thankful for his input as he took good time and effort to answer even though it wasnt exactly what I asked for I appreciate his help and insulting him was not meant at all.

    Now explain to me the process of your mind... why the heck do you care SOOOOOO MUCH who I ask?

    seriously what is it to you? why are you even still commenting on this page?
     
  20. Yiddo

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    Lets get back to the subject shall we end of the day you sound from what you are saying that you are looking for something special and fancy to have in your pocket, similiar to me I wanted the gimmick as much as the hardware for sitting in front of the telly and when I visit the parents or in general when my clevo was too big for the job ;)

    I noticed your post on the Asus forum as well as that is where I spend most of my time coming from mostly Asus before now but trust me Clevo/Sager/Alienware and then consider MSI before going to Asus they charge too much and give too little.

    If you can afford it then get the I7 get it but do not sacrifice getting an SSD for one is what I normally say because that is the most vital of all upgrades especially in a small laptop which lacks speed.

    If you do editing and the like which required processing power then it maybe workwhile. The one thing that drew me to the I7 was its benchmarking results as I had a 720QM before my clevo and that pushed out 3k in 3dmark06 which is the same as the I7 2637M can which just goes to show what an improvement the Sandy Bridge was to be able to produce the same power in a ULV 17watt duo as what a high end 45watt quad can also 2 years ago.
     
  21. ZK85

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    Lol I guess you could say that :) ...

    I buy a laptop once every 3-4 years (depending on how annoying my laptop gets at the end of its age) my main work was on my pc cuz the laptops that were around were too useless for anything and if they were good they were heavy as a desktop and had to be 17 or 18 inches (few exceptions of course, but weren't strong enough to get my attention), but now that something portable and good is out i dont mind paying extra to have it with me for much longer and giving me every bit of advantage i could squeeze out of it since it will be with me for a while.


    Can I ask you something? did you notice any FPS improvement with an SSD or is it just loading time?

    also what SSD brand do you recommend? I heard that different ones preform differently and I have to admit I am very new to SSDs so not sure what would be the best for the M11X... I was planning on getting the I7, then when i have the money to upgrade i would buy a good SSD (since only the SSD and RAM are upgradable on the M11X I figured it could wait)

    Thanks :)
     
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    There is really only 1 to go for with these models everyone gets one because they are the best bang for buck the 128GB M4 SATA III. An SSD will not improve FPS it will improve everything relating to load times from booting to requests, moving files and especially gaming load time. 15 seconds boot is special and mechanical drives should really only be an option as a secondary drive in a bigger model and not in an expensive gaming laptop just like this.

    In regards to wanting to keep it for many years people with R1's on this forum still have no interest in upgrading their 3 year old models until the next revision and they have the SU7300 and 335M GT which at its release was much lower in performance to the R3 so that should confirm its future proof.

    Only you can decide what to get but my two cents remain only go I7 if you can afford it and intend to have an SSD otherwise cut the costs and go I5 and SSD and probably knock off $100 from the final price as well. Putting a Skoda Engine in a Ferrari at the lights, all is fine until they go green and you are still booting windows ;)
     
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    Generally an SSD will only help with load times. You may notice less pop-ins in sandbox games like Fallout 3 or NV, but I haven't noticed anything major. I would pick up a Crucial M4 if you're in the market for an SSD. If you're in the US you can find a 128GB for under $150 lately.
     
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    I don't find the fan annoying. But I don't overtax it with anything more than TF2.
     
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    M11xR3, I7 2617m, Gt 540m 2GB, 8GB ram, Corsair force series GT 120GB SSD.

    I haven't done any stress tests, i'm not into all that so this whole review is coming from someone who purely plays games with no OC'ing or anything like that.

    1. I also own a M15x R2 with 460m gpu, 8gm Ram, i7 720qm, same 120GB SSD and my M11x plays the games that the M15x does at the exact same settings flawlessly, like Bf3 i can play with textures set to Ultra and all other settings set to medium on a 64 player Metro map and i get no problems, i've also tried Bioshock 2, Witcher 2, Fallout 3, Mw3, others, and it performs on par with my M15x (not sure about FPS though, i imagine M15X wins that one but that stuff doesn't intrest me as long as it's running fine)

    2. It runs warm i'd say, not hot, the palm rests get warm at times but that's not a terrible thing when you live in cold cold England, in fact it can be quite pleasant at times! The highest i've got my GPU temps to is about 70c, that was playing Bf3, Metro, 64 players, textures Ultra, rest medium. That's impressive considering my M15x at the same settings can get as high as 74c.

    3. Yes it's noisy but i've only noticed it once in all the times i've been on it (took my headset off to check the noise levels) Hair dryer is slightly exaggerated though. It's only noisy whilst gaming obviously and when i game i wear a headset hence me never hearing it and the second you close the game the fans stop (thank you optimus) so no heavy noise whilst not gaming.

    4. Not going to lie i haven't really noticed any good or bad, i might have to play a game and edit this part.

    5. I had one MAJOR problem, i let my Mom use it once and ever since she keeps pestering me for it, she's never been on anything that is as fast or quality as this is. She's in love with it ;( apart from people wanting it off me it's had no issues whatsoever.

    6. I did regret it at first, i was very disappointed with the screen (used to M15x HD screen) I even left my M11x in its box under my bed for a couple of weeks. I decided to give her another go about two months ago and i've never looked back, what a fool i was! Honestly i sometimes forget what laptop i'm on, i can go all day on M11x and only when i close it at the end do i realise it's not my M15x. Don't let the screen put anyone off, it just takes some getting used to if you're used to bigger screens that's all.

    Side notes.

    I spend more time on my M11x nowadays because my M15x needs a break the old girl and because i just love it.

    Battery is amazing, i have my power plan set to everything performance with multiple programs running and still get 3.5 - 4+ hours out of her.

    I've hooked it up to a 40" Tv via Hdmi and played Bf3 story mode and it runs shockingly well (not perfect, i just wasn't expecting it to run as well as it did) I also use it to stream Netflix using the same method and it does so gracefully.

    Usb and earphone ports are kinda in a silly place, should be further back in my opinion. Also the charging point is right next to the fan, i think it's not the greatest place, these have caused no issues at all though.

    Love this laptop to bits and wouldn't change it for the world.
     
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    never heard mine make a loud fan noise.... ever lol and it gets laggy on cities xl 2012 but I think the game is shi*ty not the pc. otherwise every apple f*G is jealous of my glowing alienhead.


    Killer Wireless-N 1103 a/g/n 3x3 MIMO makes a big difference
     
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    Is the third antenna already installed for did you install it yourself? If there is no third antenna, there is not reason to upgrade...
     
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    I don't know why it wouldn't be installed also are you going to get the d800
     
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    The reason i didn't get the killer is because AFAIK all of the lids (r1-3) only have 2 antennas installed.
     
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    You've got to be Shi**ing me
    they sell something and it doesn't work and they don't tell you
     
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    I have no reason to upgrade to the D800 at the moment.
     
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    I have a killer and its works perfectly. How can I check to see how many antenna there are without tearing apart the block?