R1-Battlefield 3 and how it will run

I got the Limited Edition Medal of Honor so I will have the Battlefield 3 beta access soon enough (they said at most 12 months from MOH release). You can count that I will do an extensive review of it using the R2 that is.

 

Define handle it?

 

Well considering its on the Frostbite 2 engine (with a lot tweaks most likely a 2.5 version) again and we all know how crap the R1 handles Bad Company 2 already... R2 however exceeds expectations of a notebook for that game IMO. So I think he means "handle" it in a sense relative to the R1

 

"handle" in this instance would mean 30 FPS ... maybe 30-40 with lowered settings. I'm not sure.

 

Your dreamers lol but ok.

Remember Bad Company 2 has DX 9 mode, this doesn't so you lose a couple of more frames right there.

The R2 can barely meet 30+ in BC 2 at times lower and other time higher, while the r1 can barely run the game at all...yet BF 3 your expecting 30?

Doubtful.

But We'll see!

P.S
The R2 not only had a stronger CPU it also has threads. Thats what helped it in BC 2, but in this game, its more CPU intensive....although if they're going on a mass market (cod style) they should make low settings be able to be played on any computer....I think they are trying to pull a Counter strike source...force tech forward...now any computer can play that game...back when it came out most stayed with CS 1.6 (among other reasons granted).

 

Thats where you are wrong.

R2 handles BC2 better on DX10 because it takes load off of the CPU and puts more on the GPU. I get 35+ FPS in BC2 with high settings (NO OC or TS). I could get a hell of a lot more. Get your facts straight.

P.S. Orange Box is completely different from Frostbite 2 Engine so don't even compare the 2.

 

I didn't compare them directly I compared their technology for their time.

THe CPU and GPU division is always the same, extra eye candy doesn't mean it takes pressure off CPU, it just means extra eye candy.

DX 10 was meant to take pressure off the CPu and it flopped and turned out it needed more resources...until DX 10.1 came out and gave free AA and Amb Occ.

THe only way dx 10 (DX 10.1 for that fact) gives fps is when games have the 4X AA implemented. Think of it as free AA. To this date, even on my main computer turning on DX 10 never gave me more frames than DX 9.

You dont put more work by taking off load off the cpu through eye candy. And you don't take pressure off the CPU when going up in resolution, you just put more pressure on the card...the CPU is still bottlenecked.

I never stated that BF 2 didn't run on the m11x R2, I said it just barely makes it as a playable game. 30 fps is the minimum any game should be played at (lets be generous and not say 40+, or to be more accurate 60+ to match the amount of HZ the monitor supports). A game that uses next gen graphics, and will have real implemented DX 11, not the games we've gotten now that isn;t noticeable.

Again R2 has MUCH more head room than R1, which is pretty much obsolete come the next couple of months (if not before), but it is still a netbook, and is limited by its resources.

P.S

Orange Box is a game bundle, not an engine.

Get your facts straight. The engine is called source.


Good luck to you!

 

Would be interesting to see a pinmodded R1 running BF3 and comparing how close it can get to an i5. Remember, the R1 runs BC2 slow because it has a massive CPU bottleneck.
If BF3 requires a much better graphics card, then neither R1 or R2 can run it.

 

Wrong again. Until you actually own an R2 don't comment on its performance or results because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about being an R1 user. The R2 also has power limits and when lifted greatly increases performance. Even without OC or TPLs I get way more FPS in DX10 than I ever would in DX9 for BC2. And its completely playable with above 30 FPS.

P.S. Did I say Orange Box ENGINE? Read the post again, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

KTHXBAI

 

I'm sorry.

 

So then you compared a game bundle to an engine? Either way it doesn't make sense LOL

I dont have to own a R2 to see what performance it holds. Its a CPU that is dual core, and has 4 threads. Limited by voltage to make it a feasible buy for netbook category it does get performance boost from Throttlestop, but you can't expect miracles.

I'm not here to justify your purchase, I'm speaking logic. and this massive power your talking about...please, dont throw words out there like massive, because we ALL know limitations. The R2 Trumps R1 by miles but its not a miracle worker, you can't expect to lift power off CPU and expect the 72 SP video card around 8800GS in power which is more than 4 years old to take enough load to make a game like BF 3 work excellently.

Now what you can say, is Dice can do what Starcraft did, and make low settings COMPLETELY low to match that of BF 2 (the real BF 2 not Bad Company) and then we can ALL expect to hit 60+ frames on low. We will see.

P.S

Your logic is flawed saying that I can't understand, seeing as both R1 and R2 have the same video card and both CAN benefit from DX 10. Yet you claim only R2 can see this frame leap. We will have to wait and see For now I say neither laptop will provide a "enjoyable" experience for me

 

You're putting words in MY mouth. I never said massive performance leap. I said it greatly increases performance and that is true, just look at the 3DMark scores of before and after.

But yeah in all realism I doubt my R2 can handle it on anything but lowest possible settings. And to be honest I dont mind that since I truely don't notice a difference in BC2's Low, Medium, and High settings (only slight differences)

 

I agree with that, low or med no difference, only time I saw a diff was FOV or DX 11.

I'm hopping they are willing to take a graphical hit on Low and let any pc run it...although doubtful cuz there are still destructibles.

 

lol either version of the m11x is definitly NOT a netbook. what netbook do you guys know of that can get over 7k on 3dmark06?

 

Its is categorized under netbook. You can call it Barrack Gandhi and it still is a netbook.

Maybe its power doesn't reflect everyday netbooks and some notebooks, but its size and marketing sure do

 

its more like a small laptop, just couse it has a small form factor doesnt mean its a netbook. netbooks are slow and underpowered, not this. it may be the same size as a large netbook but thats not what it is.

 

your not getting what I'm saying, it doesn't matter the power, its the cateogry.

If Toyota Puts out a 700 HP RaV4 (SUV) its still SUV. This isn't only about size, but if we are going to bring size into this, 12Inches and below is a Netbook and 13" is Ultra portable 15" is Laptop and 17"+ is a desktop replacement.

If you go to dell.com its under netbook

 

yeah i understand what your saying, but in terms of power its not a netbook. but the size is. if it were a true netbook it wouldnt be powerful. essentially the word "netbook" came because pc manufacturers decided to make something light and small that you could do light tasks and browse the web with, hence the word netbook.

 

Don't call it a netbook. Netbook is a term that refers to notebooks that only use the Internet or word processing applications. The OS is Windows Starter I believe... This has a regular OS hence a small NOTEbook. And by the way its NOT marketed as a netbook I got no idea where you got that from. Its listed as a 11" notebook on Alienware.com This kid pulls facts out of mid air.

 

@MasivB
thanks for backing me up. and dell may have it listed as a "netbook" but thats not what it is. and exactly, it should be called a small notebook because thats what it is =p

 

I dont know about the rest of you, but I call it a fun toy.

 

I retract my statement, about the netbook I did go on alienware.com and its listed as laptop. But I do remember that it was compared to a Netbook.

I don't make up facts I've proven my point in every case. I do admit when I'm wrong but nor do I back down around ignorance.

 

labels are dumb, all i know is its a small but mighty computing gaming device

 

@trikan

Exactly =p

 

To get this thread back on topic.. The M11x R1 might be a challenge to get it to play bf3 fluid. It depends on how the engine is coded. Who knows... if it's like COD Bops you could have a 3000 dollar machine and not run it smoothly. Like most other releases I will be realistic (or at least try to). It will have bugs in the beginning, some will get worked out by the engineers, others will not and the great communities such as this one will figure out how to work around the issues.

If I was buying a m11x today I would probably get the R2. Most who have read my post over the last year know I dont really like the optimus technology but having the I series CPU seems to really work for BFBC2. It might do the same for BF3.

Just my .02

StevenX

 

I just saw my friend's brother play the Alpha version of Battlefield 3. If Bad Company 2 and Medal of Honor had a baby, then Battlefield 3 would be that baby. After watching about thirty minutes of gameplay I kept getting a strange feeling that the R1 might have a chance at running this game. It looked no different than MoH or BC2 graphically. Hopefully they optimize it well so we can run it!

 

So now all we need is someone with an m11x who has access to beta for results.

 

It's weird how they do the beta. You go through a webpage, then matchmaking gets started from there. It's similar to how Battlefield Heroes works. Had it been my friend, I would have asked him his username and password to try out. I don't know his brother very well. I'm anxious to hear results though. Hopefully someone on here gets in. I played the crap out of BC2 on Xbox360, so maybe there's hope I'll get one.

 

I think (correct me if I am wrong) that to get access to early beta you needed to purchase medal of honour last year. Otherwise you just have to wait for release date

 

I think that's one way to get into the beta, but it's in the alpha stage right now. My friend's brother said he got an email from DICE/EA.

 

Nonnoonononono, you can play the game in DX10. It's in the alpha requirements.

 

I read on a BF3 forum the other day that the MOH purchase gets your "early access" to the beta. And that the beta will be available to all after a certain period.

 

Wow that is great news.... will give me an idea of the performance that I will get if I buy the game... since I am doubtful it will run well (expecially on 64 player servers).

 

in alpha atm running on lowest setting at 1280x720 and get between 25-40fps so far this on on a r2 i5 overclocked at 166

edit: it also dident detect gpu on first run but meh its an alpha

given me very good hopes for full version tho with more optimization i recon are little ailens will be fine on some higher settings

 

This is good to hear. I can't wait to get into BETA.

edit: JUST KIDDING. just got the email for an Alpha invite!!! Time to test!

edit 2: working on uploading a video of BF3 playing beautifully in 1080p on my R2.

 

Sweet, well as soon as it comes out I will give it a shot on my r1 and see how it runs.... if it doesnt run I will save it for when I build my desktop.

 

Posted some screen caps from my R2 in this thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...ttlefield-3-alpha-gameplay-footage-1080p.html

 

That is awesome! I bet the R1 will run it on low just fine.

 

My friend got into the alpha and I'm trying to play on his acccount, but it says I can't play because I need at least version 275.39 drivers. Lame! I'm using 263.xx

Edit: I installed 280.19 beta drivers and tried the game. I was getting around 10-14 FPS in a 32 player game. It definitely did not run well.

 

You didn't expect the game to run well in a 32 man match did you ?

 

Honestly, I expected it to run a little bit better. I wasn't expecting 30 FPS or anything.

 

Just downloaded after looking at this post and i can assure anyone else that looks at this in the future that the m11x r1 works on auto settings at 35 fps on mine, the specs for mine are the following

m11x r1, 5gb ram, 1gb 335 nvidia graphics card and intel core 2 duo 1.73 alienware overclock