Razer Orochi Mouse

Which are you on now Saturn?!

 

razer mamba has been doing me good till this day. (only a week old). Also it maybe not be the best "wireless" option but the "wireless" option on it is the best compared to other really sucky wireless gaming mouses. Also im not gonna take my mouse outside to use so theres no problem if there is an adapter or not..

 

Mamba is for desktops. Orochi is for laptops. There!

 

why is it that you cant use the mamba with a laptop? i am doing it now and i dont see a problem..please elaborate.

 

You won't get the wireless function without the pedestal. Aside from that, it's fine. And the pedestal is not very travel friendly. As a corded mouse it's awesome and portable though.

 

Okay where else are you using your laptop? on the desk? is the docking station going to be on the desk...whats the problem ...

 

Well, some people (me included) bought the Alienware M11x because thet have lifestyles that require them to move around a lot, and are also hopelessly addicted to PC gaming.

For example, I have a job that requires me to travel to different cities every week or two, for a few days at a time. That means I spend a lot of time running around in airports, and a lot of nights in hotel rooms. The problem with the mamba base station is that it isn't very portable, and takes up a lot of valuable space in a laptop bag. I think a lot of people would prefer a mouse that isn't as top-end as the Mamba, but is still "good enough", if it means that they can save some laptop bag space

 

lmao then carry the wire...seriously..

 

If he has to carry the wire when travelling--and travelling is when going wireless is most needed--how is that helpful? He might as well not even have a wireless mouse at that point.

 

Exactly. Perffectly made point.

I get the sense that many Razer fans are fanboys. I think that some people bought a Razer product because it is the best product that fits their needs. But I think that there are also a significant number that bought it because they bought into the whole "gamer" marketing by that company, and will defend their products simply because they have this idea that Razer must automatically mean the "best" accessories for gamers.

Fanboyism prevents a person from having an objective discussion about a problem. It is never about what the best product is to solve a problem... it is always about what the best Razer product is to solve that problem.

 

I agree. While I own two Razer's I'm not a fanboy. As I'm a fairly new owner. If logitech made a 7 button travel blue tooth mouse for gaming, I'd be all over it. I love logitech mice but they don't have one, or one that matches the M11x as well as the Orochi.

One thing I don't like about either Razer is that the bottom feet attract crud like no other mouse I've ever owned.

The Microsoft Sidewinder X8, although full size, is a pretty sweet gaming mouse. It's base is very compact and portable. It's shaped like a hockey puck. The side buttons are perfectly placed for fps. Whereas the Mamba feels better but the side buttons are nearly as reachable. The Sidewinder feels great in the hand too. Some people don't like it's looks, but to me, it looks like if the Galactic Empire had mice on Star Destroyers, it'd look like this.

The sidewinder X8 also has really great wireless range and amazing battery life. It's red lighting will compliment the M11x great if one chooses to run their AlienFX in a matching color.

But I'm still using the Orochi for the M11x due to it being BT and small. But since it's battery life is so much better than the Mamba, it is almost becoming the preferable Razer.

 

Since that was obviously directed at me:



Actually using the product helps, too. These people own & have used the said product:

Seems good to me.

You haven't used the mouse, and have admitted to not understanding the mouse....yet you exaggerate the bad points & bash the mouse? I mean c'mon....you're gonna talk about speaking objectively when you're posts look like this?

I see that you yourself seem to be a fan of Logitech. You've owned several of their mice. You keep mentioning them & talking them up.... No offense, just sayin'. I love Logitech too. I've CURRENTLY got a G9, G13, G15, G940, & 2 G11's. I've always loved logitech & have owned the majority of their products.


I myself have owned many, many mice. I've own/owned several logitechs, a few microsoft, a gigabyte, 2 roccat mice, and now razer. (& I've tried out even more) If I was anyone's fanboy, it would be logitech. I have a good basis for my review on the orochi, where I talk about both good & bad. Go back & read it, it's on the first page.

Really, can we keep this stuff to a minimum? That was totally unnecessary. We're discussing the orochi in this thread, not it's fans and/or fanboys(Cause I agree, there are some rabid razor fanboys.....as well as logitech, microsoft....and all the other manufacturers)

I hadn't planned on posting in here again, I've already spoke my piece. The Orochi is a solid mouse with great performance. If the sleep bothers you, that's fine.....but don't bash a good product because you don't like it. The sleep is there to preserve battery life. That's why the Orochi has such great battery life.




Anywho, I'm out, have fun guys. This is going downhill. It shall end here.

 

Fair enough. You have your opinions, which you presented reasonably and logically. I respect that.

I don't think we'll get any further by hashing this out further. I think we've said all that there is to say.

 

so wireless your gonna use in on the desk...so wired your gonna use it on the desk?

 

for those with the Razer Orochi can someone post a video that would highlight the micro sleep lag and show how the curosr reacts when it wakes up? Because I have used other bluetooth mice and never really noticed this but this mouse sounds as if it is really bad jittering.

 

I was thinking about the Razer Orochi until I discovered the Razer Naga... sure its pretty much the opposite of the Orochi... Its bigger, heavier and its not wireless at all, BUT it has 12 buttons layed out like a num pad that CAN be used as a numpad... laptop gamers rejoice!

 

I'll chime in because I finally broke down and bought an Orochi for my m11x. I picked it up a Best Buy so if I didn't like it I could just take it back. It took a little to get used to as I normally use a gigantic MS Sidewinder mouse on my desktop. I bought the Sidewinder because I have long hands and I like to rest my palm on the mouse. I tried using the Orochi claw style as someone else illustrated but it just didn't feel right. The Orochi is only slightly longer than my fingers so it fits comfortably between my thumb and ring finger with just my index and middle fingers resting on mouse.

Like many others said I also mostly only game wired but the lag for the bluetooth really does not seem to be a big issue for me. It might just be the way I game but when it wakes up, it does so quickly and with very little jump of the mouse pointer. When I wake it up with a button or the wheel it is barely noticeable.

So to sum it up the Orochi works great for me and as a bonus it looks awesome with the m11x. If you want to try it out I suggest you do what I did and just buy from someplace you can easily exchange or return it.

 

I will keep this short and sweet. Not sure why there is so much fuss over this mouse.

The mouse and the keyboard are a very personal choice for the user. Not everyone likes the same kind of feedback from the keys on the keyboard. For example, I love most laptop keyboards. I like quite keyboards. I don't like to have someone at the other end of the house hearing my type.

On the same note, the feel and operation of a mouse is again very personal. I am a razer fan. I like the quality and feel of the mice they put out. I have used 3 mice prior to the Orochi. It took a bit of getting used to the smaller size, but it the end, it works for "me".

If you don't like features of a mouse or keyboard that is most likely a personal opinion. Why are so many people trying to cram their "opinion" down everyone elses throat?

Hmmmm, so much for short and sweet.

 

To sum it all up, for someone who wants a GAMING mouse but also the ability of going wireless when traveling, etc. is this the best mice for me?!

 

To sum it up: Some people say yes, the Orochi is what you want.

Some people (like me) say that you should just get a mouse that is wireless 100% of the time and does a good job at gaming.

 

What is the DPI and polling of the Performance MX mouse corded and wireless?! Can't find that anywhere.

 

It is not posted by Logitech. Most estimates seem to think it is 125Hz polling rate, and about 2000dpi

 

Both, wireless and corded?!

That seems to be on par with the Orochi on wireless mode.

 

Yes, the raw specs on polling rate and DPI are probably the same as the Orochi on wireless mode. The reason I like the Performance MX is because it doesn't have a 2-second sleep timer on its wireless mode, is rechargeable, and is much larger than the Orochi (I prefer palm grip vs. claw grip). It's a mouse that is 100% wireless, that has specs that are "good enough" for what I need to do with it.

Unlike the Orochi, it does not have a "wired" and "wireless" mode. There is a wire that comes with the Performance MX, but it is purely for charging the rechargeable battery in the mouse. All data is still happening over wireless, even with the USB charger cable plugged in.

 

Hmmm... but what about the DPI and polling rate in wired mode?!

 

Well, I made a video. I've never done a video like this before so the quality may not be great. I'm just using a cheap digital camera so it seems to go in and out of focus. If you don't like the video please feel free to make your own.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uflRvTd2G2g

 

Can anyone with the orochi tell me if you can go to the settings and make the wake up time a longer interval? I read you can do this somewhere but I wanna make sure.
Also I do not have blu tooth is there a usb toggle I can use or is this mouse only for blu tooth capable computers when wireless? Thanks

 

There is currently no such setting in the Razer driver.

 

Ok but if doesn't come with the usb dongle I'm assuming i can just buy a blu tooth one that wouold work with it

 

Thanks man thats exactly want I wanted to verify

 

Had to chime in again. It looks like Roccat finally released their Pyra wireless mouse.


1000hz polling for you gamers, & USB wireless so you don't have the latencies from Bluetooth. It's got a micro dongle for you people who don't like the full sized dongle from something like a Mamba. It's also a compact notebook mouse, so it'll probably be just as uncomfortable as the orochi. Looks similar to the Kova, which I have. Ergo could use some work on them. Roccat Kone is awesome, tho. Best mouse, period.

Looks to be the best of both worlds(compact, wireless & simultaneously low latencies). Finally a TRUE wireless gaming mouse. I'll have to get one & give it a shot. I'll post results if anyone's interested.

All this is speculation, of course. Based off of their advertisements & previous roccat mice.

Now I just gotta find a UK store willing to ship to the US.

 

Please do post a review if you get one!

 

WOW! That is unbelieavable. I'll definitely jump in after reading some reviews. How do you like your Roccat mouse?! How is the build quality, etc?!

 

People still seem to prefer the Orochi due to quality. Pyra has been getting some bad reviews all around due to its poor battery life (which shouldn't really be an issue due to it being rechargeable via its USB cable) and the build quality. Hmmm... so confused!

 

Has anyone heard if there is gonna be an update so users can change the wait time before the mouse goes to sleep?

 

Doubtful! This has been the most demanded update users have been requesting and they are simply turning the cheek. I don't know if they don't want the Orochi to overtake the Mamba's market or what, but it's a deal-breaker for me and any true gamer. I am waiting for the G700 from Logitech to launch. It's the best of everything in one package.

 

Yeah I jsut bought the Orochi tonight. I know the mouse lag is minimal but it is just so damn annoying i can't take it anymore. I'll deffinately be taking it back tommorow. I had to purchase a bluetooth dongle to so it all cost 130 bucks. With the lag i just cant justify spending this much

 

Look at the G700 from Logitech. It's 2.4GHz true wireless so no lag at all.

 

That logitech does look really nice I might be waiting for that one. In previous posts someone said you won't get the wireless function without the pedestal when using the mamba. Are you saying that you need the pedistal to be plugged in in order to be wireless? Or are you saying you need to have the pedistal to recharge the mouse?

 

You got a bluetooth mouse for a laptop that doesn't have bluetooth?? If you have to use a micro dongle you might as well get a regular wireless mouse and avoid the lag.

 

I don't have bluetooth on my M11x but i plan on using it as a wired mouse, it will still work right?

 

Yup. You just have to leave it plugged in.

On another note, I have added bluetooth to my dad's 1330 and it was insanely simple - the internal bluetooth adapter was only 25 bucks from dell. Something to keep in mind before buying an external adapter elsewhere.

That is unless you buy one from dealextreme for 2 bucks - they work great!

 

If you are using it in 100% wired mode, then why not get a 100% wired mouse? There are plenty of great gaming mice from both Razer and Logitech that are 100% wired.

 

I just liked the fact that it was small and have 7 buttons, I play games like World of Warcraft and as a healer its nice to have alot of buttons on the mouse for healbot mod. and also I liked the style of it.

 

I just bought the Orochi yesterday and the lag bugs the hell out of me. Luckily I got it at Best Buy and I might just return it in like 1 week...will see if I can get used to the lag but I doubt it. My cheap Microsoft bluetooth mouse never went to sleep within like 2 sec.

 

I don't understand why there's no option to disable the mouse entering sleep mode when idle for a couple of seconds. Surely it's a software thing.

 

It's built into the mouse firmware. Razer has not extended the timeout beyond the default 2 seconds, and has not given users the option to set it themselves.

 

Man, I'm waiting for a good deal on this. Looking for around $50 at most though. xD

 

bump! I got one of these today, quite like it, bluetooth lag is real tho. Its never going to affect me personally as i don't play online fps at the moment.

Was just wondering, is anyone else continously detaching and replacing the battery cover in an OCD manner? I can't get enough of it, the mechanism is entirely satisfying, particularly the way it snaps back into place, how does it do that? is it magnetic? The actual cover is really flimsy and I am worryed I will break it!

 

Yep, looks like it is magnetic.