Safe temps for Overclocking the 335m GPU?

Hey all,

I've been reading around the web that R1 owners who overclocked their 335m GPU got tremendous performance gains. I've gotten similar results on just small OC's on my Asus Gaming NB.

I've tried OC'ing the GPU on the RR2 and left the CPU at 133. I've gotten some really tremendous performance gains when experimenting with this.

My temps haven't hit 80 degrees and have maxed at 79. And that's only after about 15minutes of play. Is this an okay temp for this GPU? The video card in my other notebook runs normal and stable at 95 degrees, as well as my desktop video cards, but I have no idea about this one.

Anyone know?

Thanks!

 

Yeah those temps are fine.

 

Out of curiosity, what settings are you using for your GPU THX?

 

Hmm what software do you (and others) use to OC the gpu?

The nvidia addon thing?

 

MSI Afterburner.

After experimenting all night, the GPU clocks I get that don't crash in game (many higher clocks did cause the game to crash even with temps in nominal ranges)

So while my machine could
post and run benchmarks fine at higher overclocks then the one revealed, below;

So for me the best stable clock that would not cause any game crashes are:

550 - Core
1100 - Shader
800- Memory.

Now, when I do this, "and" do the following, this is what I believe is the sweet spot. At least on my unit.

And that is:

Disable Turbo in Bios - This new Intel feature may automatically boost performance, but it also automatically raises your temps by 10 degrees on both GPU's and the Turbo is known to cause stuttering in some games FPS

2. Set your Over
Clock number in Bios to "164" the next to the last one. This is a widely reported stable clock. While you may not see improved benchmarks,
you'll see extremely noticeable improved
Performance in your actual gaming.

And most importantly, get the new PhysX patch released yesterday by Nvidia specifically for the M11x-R2. This will fix many, many stability issues.

Those settings between the GPU O'C and the 164 *No Turbo* CPU overclock should give any I7 owners with, 4gb or more, a much more satisfying and expected kind of bump in performance that puts it actually, for me, now
exceeds my initial expectations when deciding to buy it.

Obviously every video card and CPU is different,
but maybe those settings that work for me can give others a template to go off and experiment with.

Once more:

GPU O'C - 550/1100/800
CPU OC - 164 (No Turbo)

I love my machine at these
settings as it fixes the heat issue by 10 degrees and now only one game crashes on start instead of half of my library. Plus, my fps have jumped up
by 10, while my temps got lowered by 10.

I'm very, very happy with it now after almost returning it yesterday. Hopefully these tweaks are something that can alleviate the stress of other frustrated owners and bring them some immediate satisfaction and demonstrate a netbook that performs the way I want and expected
of it now after hunting and pecking and finding these adjustments.

Also forgot to mention, that with MSI Afterburner, you have to go into the config file and change the value to "1" where it allows for overclocking of non MSI cards.

Peace!

 

I use EVGA precision for overclocking the gpu. THe nvidia add on (ntune) causes blue screens. Stable oc clocks for R1 = 575 cpu, 875 mem and shader locked so x2. I can take mem up to 890 stable. I dont need to push everything to the absolute max all the time. Best Wishes, StevenX

this is without notebook coolers or anything else... i could prolly take it up even higher with a decent cooler. I only get a cheap one to travel with.

 

THX5334,

Thanks for this post. My R2 is arriving next week and this makes me feel better about it. Reading these forums has certainly had me flip-flop over the past couple of weeks on whether I make a good decision buying the R2 or not. Last night I though I made a mistake after reading Ninja's post, today (after your posts) I feel much better.

One question for you. I see you are using the new PhysX patch, but I don't see what video driver you are using? Can you clear this up for me please? Thx!

 

M11xR1 SU7300 1.7Ghz Oc'd 4GB RAM BIOS A01 Nividia 197.12 GPU OC'd with PhysX 9.10.0224

Using GPU overclocking I obtain the following difference seen via 3DMark06

3DMark Score: 6479 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score: 2998
SM 3.0 Score: 3021
CPU Score: 1450

3DMark Score: 6610 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score: 3030
SM 3.0 Score: 3227
CPU Score: 1408​

Tried nVidia nTune, but it trashed my system so I removed it.
Now use EVGA Precision with moderate settings:

Core Clock: 551
Shader Clock: 1322
Memory Clock: 841​

Haven't really worried about GPU temperature that much, seen 38C min and 51C max during testing.

Mind you the M11xR1 is way cool. Literally.

 

In discussing all the above, I am/was using the latest Beta Video Drivers offered by Dell/Alienware put out - few days ago.

Those, with the new beta PhysX drivers really fixed a lot of things for me. Combined with the clock and tweak settings are what worked for me and had me going from totally frustrated and ready to return the unit, to totally happy and having it exceed high expectations.

The way I have mine, I'm getting great results OC'ing the CPU all the way to 164 fsb in the bios after turning off the turbo boost feature. And doing this is bringing considerable performance gains in gaming instead of having no effect as widely misbelieved due to an over importance placed on benchmarks instead of real gaming results.

I'm more convinced than ever, that it was worth it to wait for the R2 and the performance gains are there if going by real game play experiences and not benchmarks.

Trust me, you're stoked to have gotten the R2. Believe it.

 

I get the best 3Dmark06 score with the i7 when I leave turbo on and DO NOT overclock the CPU. I boosted the GPU a little using EVGA Precision and my 3DMark06 score was around 7600.

Overclocking the CPU lowered it for me.

 

THX5334: do you use any cooler?

 

Again I'd like to stress as someone who works in the videogame industry, let me be clear: 3DMark06 is nothing but a hustle. A graphics demo that does not give you any true info about what kind of gaming capabilities you're truly getting but rather a program designed to prey upon your ego so that you keep buying their program and fiddle with your machine in an attempt to raise that stupid number.

It's a futile attempt to boost up some arbitrary score that you can post and feel superior over others based on that little number given to your rig - rather than actually do what you bought the machine for - gaming. Which also doesn't tell you anything about how well your rig can really game.

Ignore that stupid number, and play a game that also taxes the CPU. A game like Crysis Warhead or Shattered Horizon or Metro 2033. Play the game at each setting for an hour and use Fraps to compare the averages. That will give you a more true idea than 3DMark06.

To be clear: 3DMark is a hustle! A program designed to prey on your ego and insecurities about a large purchase (i.e. gaming rig) that you constantly buy new hardware to boost up that number so you have more bragging rights over your friends on whose machine cranks out a higher number within a set scale.

I am convinced 3DMark06 and it's ilk are programmed to know a certain value range of numbers based on a person's configuration and those like it, and then just spits out a random number close to that value, just to trip you out and keep messing with your ego and have you buying new components, all just to boost up that little score to brag about over your friends and their rigs? As if that score somehow really defined if you're a better person or better gamer than they..

Please. It's all B.S.

3DMark is nothing but a hustle. Snake Oil.

Stop falling for a program that spits out random numbers and pretty graphics base on a certain value paramater and try the overclock on some real world games and see if it really decreases performance.

Does it? Or does it just happen with 3DMark so that you go buy another one of their programs or some more Ram or an HD or CPU or video card, and support the industry? Don't you know you're supposed to support the gaming hardware industry and buy new video card every year so you can chase that number over your friends rather than actually play videogames?

Sorry, my friend. 3DMark is not a gauge of how anything runs well on your computer other than 3DMark.

If you come at me and say I played Shattered Horizon for an hour with an average of 32fps, and then went back to my stock clock speeds and got an average of 45-50fps, then you'd have something worthy of consideration.

Going by 3DMark only tells me that you're falling for their snake oil. Not if OC'ing truly helps your performance or not. And maybe it it doesn't and 3DMark is reflecting that truth.

But using the hustle of 3DMark to determine how or if one should tweak their machine for gaming performance is as much a fool's errand as it is to watch TMZ and expect an objective news report about politics or the oil spill. Yeah 3DMark is a graphics program like Crysis, just the same as TMZ is a news organisation like NPR. But is watching TMZ going to tell you what you need to know about a world leader or the oil spill because it's a "news show"?

Not any better than 3DMark is going to tell you how much your tweaks and clocks are really improving game performance.

3DMark is a hustle. Try those settings in real world gaming that is not completely GPU dependent after an hour using Fraps.

I'd wager you're going to see a different result. The result that deep down your hoping for. A result you might get close to with 3DMark, but never will, until you take a hit off their crack pipe and go buy another video card from their business partners. THEN, you might see that score go up, but, WAIT! The score isn't as high as others with the same specs! Oh No! What's wrong?! I better get back to Newegg and get an upgrade so the almighty 3DMark can validate my rig!!

You go ahead and keep falling for that hustle bro. Meanwhile I'll be here enjoying my 10fps gain while also making the rig run 10 degrees cooler by testing the gear in real world circumstances - gaming - while you go chase a number that I gaurantee you'll never reach satisfactorily no matter how much coin you drop. Because it's a sliding scale of a hustle. Everytime you think you've upgraded and will reach that carrot, 3DMark yanks the carrot away a little further so you keep buying their snake oil and supporting a 6month hardware cycle that programming coders are still 5 years behind on or because they all do games now off of one build designed for consoles that are way behind in power over even the cheapest new rig.

Sorry, I don't mean to come down on you, I'm just using this post as a place to try and shatter the false beliefs of the 3DMark hustle.

Try it again but with real gaming and Fraps and I'd wager that the results will be much more pleasing than the random number 3DMark spits out to continue the hustle.

You're being misled by that program homie, and putting an unwanted and uneccessary cap on your new rig.

Don't believe me? Try it for your self with real games. You'll see.

Cheers

 

Nope! Just had it built normally. I use a good thermal paste when building my desktop rigs, but I'm not going to pay $150 for someone to rub some $15 thermal grease on a CPU with a saran wrapped finger. You just won't see a performance gain to justify that kind of a markup.

 

Thus far with my GPU overclock, I've been pretty happy. It has been a substantial change. Thanks for the tips all. Running 575-1380-875 on my R1 and haven't seen above 65C yet.

 

Nice!


As much as I'm trying to demonstrate to new owners of the R2 that my personal experience has gone from really crappy to what I expected and wanted from this NB, It's clear that there's still a lot to love about the R1 and the wife is probably getting that one for her self for the longer battery.

 

I just tried league of legends with both OC + turbo, OC without turbo, OC gpu and no OC gpu and I cannot advice to turn off turbo boost AT ALL!

However I saw just about NO change in performance while OCing the gpu (yes the 335m did kick in according to the tool.)

And I can see that stuff is happening too on the gpu.

www.thomaskc.dk/download/gpu_usage.jpg

I guess ill try and test more 3d stuff... where have people seen strait up gains while OCing the gpu?

 

Noice. I was worried that if I OC'd the GPU, I would have to cart around a cooling pad or something.

Running CPU at 164 with no problems, never spiked above 58C. Looking pretty good so far.

 

I have a strange thing with the Evga OC tool that it sometimes wont let me OC and other times it lets me OC super high and then it wont let me declock again... anyone seen this?