The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    Some questions while Overclocking

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by Dumdumpeach, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. Dumdumpeach

    Dumdumpeach Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hey everyone, new M11xR2 owner here. I'm completely new to overclocking, so please tell me if I say anything that doesn't make sense.

    So I decided to experiment a bit with OC'ing to see if I notice any in-game performance improvements. I did the following:

    - OC'd to 164
    - Disabled Intel TurboBoost
    - Disabled Intel SpeedStep

    I ran CPU-Z, and it's telling me that my core speed is 1479.4 MHz (Multiplier of 9.0). Did I miss something? I was under the impression that disabling SpeedStep will prevent the processor from downclocking when the extra power isn't necessary, unless 1479 Mhz is my max.

    What's the highest you guys have achieved for core speed with overclocking? Does anyone know where I went wrong?
     
  2. surfxombie

    surfxombie Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    61
    Messages:
    304
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The 164 sets the base speed of the CPU (164x9 = 1476)
    The TurboBoost mode allows it to increase the multiplier when needed (upto x17)
    Speedstep allows the multiplier to be lowered when the CPU is not under load

    So for OCing to get a static CPU speed do what you did
    To get extra power enable TurboBoost (eg 164 x 14 = 2296)

    Real world effects may vary due to many factors such as load, heat, power.
     
  3. Dumdumpeach

    Dumdumpeach Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Thanks. After re-enabling TurboBoost and SpeedStep, I was able to see up to 2.8 GHz (briefly), although I got a BSOD after about 10 minutes of normal use (chrome + pidgin + cpuid). I'm testing 162 MHz right now, and so far it looks normal. Processor has reached a max temp of 60 C with normal use, and seems to be mostly hovering around 52 C.

    Has anyone gotten 800 MHz with their RAM? According to CPU-Z my DRAM Freq is 487.1 MHz (it was 493 earlier, but never higher, regardless of core speed), and the ratio is 4:12. I haven't seen an option in the BIOS to change this..does anyone know if I can?
     
  4. lookitsakyauk

    lookitsakyauk Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    104
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    so when overclocking that would in turn increase energy usage correct? Does anyone know how much that would affect battery life?
     
  5. slickie88

    slickie88 Master of Puppets

    Reputations:
    973
    Messages:
    2,566
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    56
    BSODs indicate that the bus frequency you've set is not stable. Drop it down to the next lower frequency and then stress test your system for an hour. If things appear to be stable then leave it.
     
  6. Dumdumpeach

    Dumdumpeach Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Ok, 162 seems pretty stable. Just finished playing Mass Effect on Ultra/Native Res/etc. with 30-60 FPS. My max temperatures seem a little high, though (74 C for CPU, 71 C for GPU). This is while using an antec usb notebook cooler on high. :/
     
  7. tk112190

    tk112190 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    8
    Messages:
    209
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Sorry to interrupt, but I just overclocked my processor. I turned on turboboost too and I right clicked "my computer" and went into properties to see my cpu speed.

    I ran some cpu intensive apps... but I didn't see it falter from 1.2ghz. It just sits there. Is there a way to determine what my cpu speed is?
     
  8. surfxombie

    surfxombie Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    61
    Messages:
    304
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    There are many things that do this but I use:
    1. CPU-Z for CPU info for, speeds etc..
    2. HWMonitor to see temps (CPU, GPU etc..)
    3. Prime95 to stress test the CPU
    4. FurMark to stress the GPU
    5. Also Real temp which does temp and also CPU speeds

    With FurMark and stock settings I have seen temps of 72C (68C with the back slightly raised)
     
  9. NeoSurge

    NeoSurge Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    37
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I like using HWinfo32 for monitoring my cpu/gpu speeds and temps
     
  10. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

    Reputations:
    970
    Messages:
    2,674
    Likes Received:
    144
    Trophy Points:
    81
    Just as a note (incase you weren't aware) the actual speed that the RAM effectively runs at is twice what CPU-Z reads. So in this case, it'd be 974.2MHz.

    Not sure if there's an option to change it in the M11x, but I don't think there is.

    Yes, it'd increase energy use, but theoretically not by much if the voltage remains the same. If you've left SpeedStep on then battery life shouldn't be affected by much if you're not running processor-intensive applications (even if you are you're not looking at a significant reduction)

    That looks fine. As long as they aren't going above 80C, it's perfect, and the danger zones are only above 90C. Yes, it's a little hot for the M11x's standard, but it won't make a difference.
     
  11. miXwui

    miXwui Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    31
    So uh, I can only get a stable overclock at around 154, and I don't even know if that's stable because I haven't tested it yet.

    But my main concern is that core speed without anything ocing goes up to x16 multiplier at ~2.1ghz, but when I go into Assassin's Creed 2 it throttles down to 1.8 and even 1.4ghz sometimes!

    This seems to also cause stuttering in games. Is there anyway to ensure my speeds stay at 2.2ghz?

    I'm running in high performance profile and have my cpu min and max at 100% in Windows 7 power options.

    Reposted in this thread:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m11x/496720-m11x-throttling-issues-4.html
    Because it seemed more fitting.
     
  12. Dumdumpeach

    Dumdumpeach Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Thanks for the replies, everyone! They were helpful.

    However, now I have another issue. According to CPU-Z, whenever I do a complete shutdown + restart, my FSB resets back to 133 Mhz. Whenever I go back into the BIOS to change it, it shows the FSB as already being 162, and after rebooting again, CPU-Z shows 162 as well. Anyone have any idea why this happens?
     
  13. jpyaa

    jpyaa Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I have the same issue, any ideas???