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    flash + macbook air = battery meltdown; what about m11x?

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by roxxor, Nov 9, 2010.

  1. roxxor

    roxxor Notebook Evangelist

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    With Arstechnica's recent review of the 11" MBA showing that with flash installed, it can lose up to 2 hours of battery life (see reports and discussions at wired, pcworld, techcrunch, tomshardware), I am curious how the m11x would fair. Is this an adobe/apple thing only? Or is flash content really that power hungry?

    Anyone want to test this on their machines?
     
  2. nox_uk

    nox_uk Notebook Consultant

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    I am still unable to see the benefits of flash :( It basically does two things.

    1) downloads adverts to your computer. This takes CPU and bandwidth.
    2) is an extra piece of software to run, which in turn is not needed, unless you want to watch adverts. which would consume CPU, which would consume power.

    How much it consumes is another thing entirely.

    Nox
     
  3. Oodlesofnoodles

    Oodlesofnoodles Notebook Enthusiast

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    What about youtube and flash videos? I don't think they've got HTML5 fully working with youtube yet.
     
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    slickie88 Master of Puppets

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    I agree. That's why I run Firefox with NoScript and Adblock+. No Flash content gets played, ads or otherwise, unless I explicitly allow it.
     
  5. nox_uk

    nox_uk Notebook Consultant

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    Flash *should* not be necessary to run a video either, it's not needed by the people who upload the videos. Have we not got enough video formats without introducing a second set of potential bugs/security holes?

    I still stand by being unable to see the benefit of Adobe Flash :p

    Now, Flash Gordon on the other hand, he IS the saviour of the universe (apparently!)

    Nox
     
  6. nox_uk

    nox_uk Notebook Consultant

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    OK, I should clarify, no direct benefit for the end user, like myself.

    HOWEVER, we do indirectly benefit from flash by letting the adverts take over our viewing screens, some websites get funded and without that funding they would not exist.

    Nox
     
  7. .PoNeH

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    I have a slight hunch that the M11x is a tad over-qualified to handle any and all Flash applications...
     
  8. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    watching youtube nets about 4 hours from my m11xr2, and about 4.5-5 hours from my m11xr1.
     
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    m11x has no problems running flash on the integrated graphics card, it might reduce your battery if your sound is loud I suppose...
     
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    You gotta keep in mind, as of Flash 10.1, it's all hardware accelerated now, so it will take power from the video card.

    I know it's not a full blown deal, but keep in mind with the m11x, you can use the Intel card, saving a lot of battery with flash. (Sacrificing quality).
    But if battery is something you're concerned about, that's obviously gonna help. The Macbook Air doesn't have an intel card.

    Anyways on my m11x r2 i7, browsing multiple tabs that can contain flash, AIM, Skype, and Yahoo Messenger, I can get 4 to 5 hours no problem, and I'm not trying to save battery either... I'm using nVidia for YouTube and Skype Video calls with the Windows Power settings to Balanced.