Things to try
Configuring your power options optimally [Control Panel-> All Control Panel Items -> Power Options -> Edit Plan Settings -> Change Advanced Power Settings]
Configuring your Intel HD optimally (NOTE: Since this is your primary graphics mode it is important to make sure settings are adjusted properly for this)
16bit Color and 40Hz Refresh Rate. (If the M11xR2 had a 40Hz option)
Try Game Booster
Use PowerMizer Manager to adjust powermizer settings for when the Nvidia GPU kicks in.
Disable any unnecessary hardware until needed in device manager (card readers and such.)
That is all I have for now.
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I've been running the latest version of CC since the day it was released. I've installed the latest Intel driver for the IGP and I'm also running Synaptics drivers for the trackpad rather than those provided by Dell. I ensure that the 335 /never/ gets actuated, but for what it's worth I'm running the 258.96 driver.
A typical day for me is getting to a client site, starting up my R2 on battery, connecting to their WAP, running Outlook 2007, FF (w/ NoScript and AdBlock+ to block Flash, scripts and ads), Lightroom 3 for importing photos, Word, Excel, a lot of VPN connections and RDP sessions. I'll either sleep or hibernate at lunch.
I consistently get at least 6 hours doing this day in and day out.
Here's a dump of the items I've disabled via CCleaner's Startup module.
Code:Yes HKCU:Run AdobeBridge Yes HKLM:Run FAStartup Yes HKLM:Run AlienwareOn-ScreenDisplay C:\Program Files (x86)\Alienware On-Screen Display\AlienwareOn-ScreenDisplay.exe Yes HKLM:Run iTunesHelper "C:\Program Files (x86)\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe" Yes HKLM:Run SunJavaUpdateSched "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe" Yes HKLM:Run RtHDVCpl C:\Program Files\Realtek\Audio\HDA\RAVCpl64.exe -s Yes HKLM:Run FreeFallProtection C:\Program Files (x86)\STMicroelectronics\AccelerometerP11\FF_Protection.exe Yes HKLM:Run egui "C:\Program Files\ESET\ESET NOD32 Antivirus\egui.exe" /hide /waitservice Yes HKLM:Run SynTPEnh %ProgramFiles%\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPEnh.exe Yes HKLM:Run AlienFX Controller "C:\Program Files\Alienware\Command Center\AlienwareAlienFXController.exe" Yes HKLM:Run IgfxTray C:\Windows\system32\igfxtray.exe Yes HKLM:Run HotKeysCmds C:\Windows\system32\hkcmd.exe Yes HKLM:Run NVHotkey rundll32.exe C:\Windows\system32\nvHotkey.dll,Start Yes Startup Common Bluetooth.lnk C:\Program Files (x86)\WIDCOMM\Bluetooth Software\BTTray.exe Yes Startup Common ProfileReminder.lnk C:\Program Files (x86)\GretagMacbeth\i1\Eye-One Match 3\ProfileReminder.exe Yes Startup User Dropbox.lnk C:\Users\David\AppData\Roaming\Dropbox\bin\Dropbox.exe No HKCU:Run ISUSPM Startup C:\PROGRA~2\COMMON~1\INSTAL~1\UPDATE~1\ISUSPM.exe -startup No HKLM:Run Adobe ARM "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\ARM\1.0\AdobeARM.exe" No HKLM:Run Adobe Reader Speed Launcher "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe" No HKLM:Run AdobeAAMUpdater-1.0 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\OOBE\PDApp\UWA\UpdaterStartupUtility.exe" No HKLM:Run AdobeCS5ServiceManager "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\CS5ServiceManager\CS5ServiceManager.exe" -launchedbylogin No HKLM:Run Broadcom Wireless Manager UI C:\Program Files\Dell\DW WLAN Card\WLTRAY.exe No HKLM:Run DSUpdateLauncher "C:\Program Files (x86)\Dell DataSafe Local Backup\Components\DSUpdate\hstart.exe" /NOCONSOLE /D="C:\Program Files (x86)\Dell DataSafe Local Backup\Components\DSUpdate" /RUNAS "C:\Program Files (x86)\Dell DataSafe Local Backup\Components\DSUpdate\DSUpd.exe" No HKLM:Run FATrayAlert C:\Program Files\Alienware\Command Center\AlienSense\FATrayMon.exe No HKLM:Run ISUSScheduler "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\InstallShield\UpdateService\issch.exe" -start No HKLM:Run Launcher C:\Program Files (x86)\Dell DataSafe Local Backup\Components\scheduler\Launcher.exe No HKLM:Run Persistence C:\Windows\system32\igfxpers.exe No HKLM:Run QuickTime Task "C:\Program Files (x86)\QuickTime\QTTask.exe" -atboottime No HKLM:Run STToasterLauncher C:\Program Files (x86)\Dell DataSafe Local Backup\toasterLauncher.exe No HKLM:Run SwitchBoard C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\SwitchBoard\SwitchBoard.exe No HKLM:Run UCam_Menu "c:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\YouCam\MUITransfer\MUIStartMenu.exe" "c:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\YouCam" UpdateWithCreateOnce "Software\CyberLink\YouCam\2.0"
Here's a dump of the services I've disabled via the services.msc control panel.
Code:Name Status Startup Type Andrea RT Filters Service Started Automatic Apple Mobile Device Started Automatic Base Filtering Engine Started Automatic Bluetooth Service Started Automatic Bonjour Service Started Automatic COM+ Event System Started Automatic Cryptographic Services Started Automatic DCOM Server Process Launcher Started Automatic Desktop Window Manager Session Manager Started Automatic DHCP Client Started Automatic Diagnostic Policy Service Started Automatic Distributed Link Tracking Client Started Automatic DNS Client Started Automatic ESET Service Started Automatic FF Install Filter Service Started Automatic Function Discovery Resource Publication Started Automatic Group Policy Client Started Automatic IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules Started Automatic IP Helper Started Automatic Multimedia Class Scheduler Automatic Network Location Awareness Started Automatic Network Store Interface Service Started Automatic NVIDIA Display Driver Service Started Automatic Plug and Play Started Automatic Power Started Automatic Print Spooler Started Automatic Program Compatibility Assistant Service Started Automatic Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Started Automatic RPC Endpoint Mapper Started Automatic Security Accounts Manager Started Automatic Server Started Automatic Shell Hardware Detection Started Automatic SoftThinks Agent Service Started Automatic Stardock WindowBlinds Started Automatic Superfetch Started Automatic System Event Notification Service Started Automatic Task Scheduler Started Automatic TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Started Automatic Themes Started Automatic User Profile Service Started Automatic Windows Audio Started Automatic Windows Audio Endpoint Builder Started Automatic Windows Driver Foundation - User-mode Driver Started Automatic Windows Event Log Started Automatic Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) Started Automatic Windows Management Instrumentation Started Automatic WLAN AutoConfig Started Automatic Workstation Started Automatic Background Intelligent Transfer Service Started Automatic (Delayed Start) Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v4.0.30319_X64 Automatic (Delayed Start) Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v4.0.30319_X86 Automatic (Delayed Start) NVIDIA Update Service Daemon Started Automatic (Delayed Start) Security Center Started Automatic (Delayed Start) Software Protection Automatic (Delayed Start) Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service Started Automatic (Delayed Start) Windows Search Started Automatic (Delayed Start) Windows Update Started Automatic (Delayed Start) Alienware Fusion Service Disabled Disk Defragmenter Disabled DW WLAN Tray Service Disabled FAService Disabled Media Center Extender Service Disabled Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v2.0.50727_X64 Disabled Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v2.0.50727_X86 Disabled Net.Tcp Port Sharing Service Disabled Parental Controls Disabled Routing and Remote Access Disabled Windows Defender Disabled Windows Firewall Disabled ActiveX Installer (AxInstSV) Manual Adaptive Brightness Manual Adobe SwitchBoard Manual Application Experience Started Manual Application Identity Manual Application Information Manual Application Layer Gateway Service Manual BitLocker Drive Encryption Service Manual Block Level Backup Engine Service Manual Bluetooth Support Service Manual Certificate Propagation Manual CNG Key Isolation Started Manual COM+ System Application Manual Computer Browser Manual Credential Manager Manual Diagnostic Service Host Manual Diagnostic System Host Manual Distributed Transaction Coordinator Manual Encrypting File System (EFS) Manual ESET HTTP Server Manual Extensible Authentication Protocol Started Manual Fax Manual Function Discovery Provider Host Manual Health Key and Certificate Management Manual HomeGroup Listener Manual HomeGroup Provider Manual Human Interface Device Access Started Manual InstallDriver Table Manager Manual Interactive Services Detection Manual Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) Manual iPod Service Started Manual IPsec Policy Agent Started Manual KtmRm for Distributed Transaction Coordinator Manual Link-Layer Topology Discovery Mapper Manual Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Service Manual Microsoft Office Diagnostics Service Manual Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider Manual Netlogon Manual Network Access Protection Agent Manual Network Connections Started Manual Network List Service Started Manual Office Source Engine Manual Peer Name Resolution Protocol Started Manual Peer Networking Grouping Started Manual Peer Networking Identity Manager Started Manual Performance Counter DLL Host Manual Performance Logs & Alerts Manual PnP-X IP Bus Enumerator Manual PNRP Machine Name Publication Service Manual Portable Device Enumerator Service Manual Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support Manual Protected Storage Manual Quality Windows Audio Video Experience Manual Remote Access Auto Connection Manager Manual Remote Access Connection Manager Manual Remote Desktop Configuration Manual Remote Desktop Services Manual Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator Manual Remote Registry Manual Secondary Logon Started Manual Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol Service Manual Smart Card Manual Smart Card Removal Policy Manual SNMP Trap Manual SPP Notification Service Manual SSDP Discovery Started Manual Steam Client Service Manual Tablet PC Input Service Manual Telephony Manual Thread Ordering Server Manual TPM Base Services Manual UPnP Device Host Started Manual Virtual Disk Manual Volume Shadow Copy Manual WebClient Manual Windows Activation Technologies Service Manual Windows Backup Manual Windows Biometric Service Manual Windows CardSpace Manual Windows Color System Manual Windows Connect Now - Config Registrar Started Manual Windows Error Reporting Service Manual Windows Event Collector Manual Windows Font Cache Service Manual Windows Installer Manual Windows Media Center Receiver Service Manual Windows Media Center Scheduler Service Manual Windows Modules Installer Started Manual Windows Presentation Foundation Font Cache 3.0.0.0 Manual Windows Remote Management (WS-Management) Manual Windows Time Manual WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service Started Manual Wired AutoConfig Manual WMI Performance Adapter Manual WWAN AutoConfig Manual
Here are my Power Saver settings for On Battery:
Code:[B]AlienFX[/B]: Off [B]Turn off hard disk after[/B]: 5 min [B]Wireless Adapter Settings[/B]: Maximum Power Savings [B]Sleep after[/B]: Never [B]Hibernate after[/B]: Never [B]Intel Graphics Power Plan[/B]: Maximum Battery Life [B]Lid close action[/B]: Do nothing [B]Power button action[/B]: Hibernate [B]PCI Express Links State Power Management[/B]: Maximum Power Savings [B]Processor - Minimum power state[/B]: 1% [B]Processor - Maximum power state[/B]: 50% [B]System cooling policy[/B]: Passive [B]GPU Power State[/B]: Balanced Mode
I've also ensured that settings for certain devices are setup optimally even though it's probably redundant.
Code:[B]Intel Graphics Properties > Power > Power Plans[/B]: Maximum Battery Life (redundant) [B]Intel Graphics Properties > Power > Power Features[/B]: Check "Display Power Saving Technology" and set slider to Maximum Battery [B]Device Settings > Network Adapters > DW1520 Wireless-N > Properties > General > Minimum Power Consumtion[/B]: Enabled
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Isn't 50% an extreme reduction in performance? The machine is damn zippy as it is, but to cut it in half seems like a lot! I'll try it anyway, it's about the only thing I haven't done.
Thanks, it seems I'm not too far off from the necessary optimizing, which is why I'm puzzled why I get- 4.5hrs at most. -
Wow, no question, that's the big trick. After lowering my processor usage (to 80%), battery bar shot up an extra 30 minutes! I can imagine getting another 30 if I go to 50%.
So I wasn't too far off the mark, but I thought the Speedstep and TurboBoost would optimize my battery more.
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Having your display brightness that high is killing your battery life and is the biggest reason your battery life is under 5hrs. Dimness isn't a factor for me because I'm already at one or two bars.
Browsing and general office applications don't care about processor much, so dropping it to 50% isn't a big deal at all. It's all still very snappy.
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Is it good to turn off alien respawn(toaster.exe)? I can't find this process in msconfig though
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Help! I'm only getting 4:30 at best. I've turned down the processor state as mentioned above to 50% max 1% min, turned off all the FX lighting, no wifi, no bluetooth. I never pass the 5 hour mark. It's surprising to see some of you can make it to 6 hours.
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It's unfortunate to say this, but 4:30 to 5 hours is only a 10% variation; 5-6 hours is only a 17% variation, it's possible that construction differences could be to blame for at least some of that variety in run times.
Just like the way you drive is the surest barometer of fuel economy, what you're doing with the machine will also have an effect. So far I don't think we've eliminated enough of the variables. -
If you really want a lean, fast machine, then do a clean format and start from scratch. I have a link in my signature related to that topic. -
I am getting between 4 and 4.5 hours with processor min/max set to 5/50%. Brightness on second or third notch, bluetooth on, wifi on, alienfx on. Doing some fairly heavy browsing/youtube while messaging/voice chat via msn.
Pretty good considering the use. I imagine I could go much higher if I turn off everything. But then again I bought the laptop with these features and I intend to use them. Great thread. -
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I'm getting 4 hours fully charged with fx on, bluetooth off, doing web surfing. I need like 6 hours for school. I turned off some random processes already (62 while idle). As for updating the command center, I have never updated it before but when I tried, it said there are no updates. Is it because my laptop was probably built after the CC update was released?
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It it reported that you're up to date, then you're up to date. If you need 6 hours then turn off AlienFX and lower your brightness.
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Is there a way to setup the alienfx to shut off the illumination when in battery and to have the it automatically turn on when plugged in?
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1.Click on the battery icon in the system tray, and then click more power options
2.Choose the powerplan you wish to do it to and select change plan settings.
3.Click change advanced power settings. Then expand the first option and pick alienfx.
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Is Battery Bar really accurate? I've applied a lot of the suggested configurations here and in the optimization thread but BB shows a full lifetime of 4:30. However, the native Windows 7 battery meter shows that I have 7+ hours at 93%.
Below are some of the changes I've made.
BIOS
- disabled Wireless, IEEE, OC
- GPU is switchable
Windows
- disabled everything with Alienware in msconfig (both Startup and Services)
- disabled indexing (Windows Search) in services.msc
- disabled some items in Task Scheduler
- Command Center and BIOS is updated
- brightness is 2nd to the lowest
- power saver for Power Plan and Graphics Mode
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wow how on earth did you get 8:40 on an r2?
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I found that just by setting AlienFX to turn off when on battery, my power usage went down by ~2mW or so. I haven't had a full run-down test run yet, but it seems like that alone will increase my battery life by 30-45 minutes!
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All those LED's need power from somewhere. -
Yeah, I just never considered that it would be that much
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Hi all,
This is how you calculate battery standby time.
Actual battery capacity is measured in terms of watt hour or wHr. In our case, the M11x battery is rated at least 63000mWh or 63wHr..
The power consumption by the M11x is also measured in terms of wHr. This power consumption rate will increase as you run more programs in the background or when the Nvidia graphics card is in use. For example, under idle mode, most M11x is able to achieve a discharge rate of about 8000mWh or 8Whr. Battery capacity is 63000mWh. Standby time = 63000/8000 = 7.875 hour.
In my case, my battery capacity is 64wHr. My current discharge rate is 8.1wHr under power saving mode with Opera and Excel running in the background. I am getting 2hr 45mins with 36% battery juice left. -
- Screen brightness, all the way down
- There is a dump of all the services I disabled with services.msc at the end of the post
- Change the power settings, min processor 5%, passive cooling, etc etc.
- Disabled a bunch of stuff on msconfig - startup tab.
- Alien FX disabled
- In the BIOS I killed the ethernet port, firewire (IEEE), SD card reader, and a couple of other things, I'll update this I suppose as I remember more or come up with more things to do
Code:Name Startup Type Acronis Nonstop Backup service Disabled Acronis Scheduler2 Service Disabled Fax Disabled Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) Disabled McAfee Application Installer Cleanup (0232021282077298) Disabled Media Center Extender Service Disabled Net.Tcp Port Sharing Service Disabled Routing and Remote Access Disabled Superfetch Disabled Telephony Disabled Volume Shadow Copy Disabled Windows Defender Disabled Windows Search Disabled Windows Update Disabled
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Hmm, I've tried pretty much all of the optimizations in this thread.
- Disabled a bunch of services with Services.msc (most of the ones listed in this thread)
- Changed msconfig (stopped most unnecessary stuff from starting)
- Power saver mode: max processor state 50%, alienFX off, minimum brightness, passive cooling + the other basic ones
- Disabled a few windows features (indexing, search, etc)
- Disabled all the typical stuff in the BIOS (firewire, SD Card, etc).
I can't seem to get the discharge rate to be under 14000 with nothing running. Battery bar shows my full lifetime as 3:47. Did I miss something?
Also, HWMonitor has shown a battery wear of 7% since I received the laptop, but BatteryBar (just installed it this morning) shows a battery wear of 0% (this is just after I did a full discharge/recharge cycle). Is one more accurate than the other? -
^Does HWMonitor show a wear of 7% or -7%? Look again; it should say -7%, meaning the actual capacity is above the rated capacity by 7%! You can verify this on Batter Bar by noticing the "Battery Wear" (not % but actual mWh) is lower than the "Capacity".
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Ah, yes, it is -7%, sorry. So that's what the negative means, haha. Thanks!
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I have a problem with battery bar. It was fine on my first 2 R2's but this most recent unit only shows a maximum of 2.30 hours when fully charged. The percentage is similar to windows but when fully charged windows shows apprx 5.30 hours compared to battery bar's 2.30.
I have uninstalled deleted reg entries etc, re installed but still getting maximum life of 2.30.
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Is Windows still showing 5:30, despite Battery Bar showing 2:30?
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Battery Bar records your power use on battery for the entire time its installed and determines the battery lifespan based on that, so it will take a long time to take into account your new changes.
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@kent1146 I am not set to GPU permantly its on Auto but thanks for the suggestion.
@corwinicre Weird thing is that on the 1st unit It was accurate from the begining, well roughly. It at least said 5+ on power saver/low brightness etc.
As we speak im on power saver Windows is saying 58% or 2hr 51mins Battery bar 58.2% or 1 Hour 2 mins discharge rate 13.551 mW full lifetime 2hr 34mins 0% wear.
I have activated the pro version for 30 day trial so see how it goes.
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That should work, but like you said, it's basically the same as Windows' version, so you might as well uninstall it if you do that.
What you can do (i.e., what I did) instead is reset the log of your battery history and start anew. Then it will estimate as before but based on a new record of your energy usage since the reset. That way, it doesn't take into account the time before you made your changes. If I remember correctly, to do this, right click on the applet, go to Properties, and click this button to reset the history:
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@corwinicre cool thanks +rep added
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My battery discharge rate seems to have got worse over the past couple of weeks. As I posted earlier, I was getting around 12.5K on idle but now it's sitting around 15.5K on idle.
I have no idea why it is getting worse and I have followed every possible step in this thread to lower the discharge rate.
Is anyone else getting these kind of discharge rates?
Also, could anyone who is getting much lower discharge rates than mine please be able to help me out? I would really appreciate it.
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Alright I'm having a major problem with my power consumption. I've followed most of the instructions in this thread and i'm still pulling an average of 18W. I have no idea what's causing this power drain. I had this problem before my SSD and seems to have carried over after a fresh install.
Note: I've noticed under GPU activity that it says VGA. Not sure what it means and any help would be appreciated. I'm getting a max of 3 hours of battery life as of right now and I really need it to last longer. -
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@Jonathan337 Wow, that's a pretty horrible discharge rate. Must be very disappointing.
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Yup, you have no idea...Thank God my CAD classes aren't that long yet, I won't be formatting 'till the Christmas vacation due to lack of time...But I'll definitely be sure to report back and let you all know the verdict
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Well, I've had quite an advancement in battery life today - sadly this time, without even trying to.
Previously I was getting around 10.5K idle discharge rate but now it has dropped quite substantially.
This morning I updated to the new 260.89 Beta drivers and decided to have a change from the Alienware Breed theme I've had since I got the machine, to the default windows 7 theme.
After I restarted, I was pretty surprised to see what Batterybar was reading.
So it either has something to do with the new drivers or the Alienware Breed theme.Attached Files:
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I am downloading the new drivers right now as I type this.
I'll report back in a bit!
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Good idea shimmy, I changed back to the Breed theme and my discharge rate went back up to what it was previously.
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That's weird. I just tested it once again and they were pretty much similar discharge rates. Around the -7600 mW rates for both themes.
However, I noticed a lower discharge rate overall ever since I updated my drives.
m11x R2 Battery Life - What are you getting and how to make it better
Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by n.czar, Jul 3, 2010.