m11x r1 still relevant?

With all this talk about the R3, seems like R1 is getting left in the dust at $599 on dell website.

Do we anticipate this model to be obsolete just 1 year after it's release?

The intel C2D su7300 system came out around this time last year starting at nearly $1300, now it's $600. Prices and technology change that rapidly?

 

My r1 is great. It gets better battery life than the r2 also.

 

Yes. I think Dell will not sell anymore this model after R3 release...

 

Prices sure do change that rapidly in the tech world. My r1 is working fantastic.

 

I think when the m11x was released,there wasnt really a whole lot out there to compete with it. Now that other manufacturers have built similar machines, and Dell is on the verge of releasing it's third-generation product, it has to have it's product compete with those of it's own line...hence the heavy, heavy discount.


On that note I still love my R1. When you classify it as a Netbook, which it is for my uses, it blows anything out of the water.

 

i dont think of mine as a netbook. ever. period.
and my R1 is faster that a stock r2, it is still relevant, your just getting a heck of a deal at $599

 

If you model your requirements, knowing that the M11xR1 has a 1.6Ghz processor and a Nvidia GT 335M GPU,(low mid-range GPU) then it's just as relevant as your requirements.

Interestedly, there is no other 11" notebook on the market today, with the overall performance (CPU/GPU) of the M11xR1...other than the M11xR2.

And if that's not enough, one can always pinmod the CPU to 2.0Ghz and maybe in the future vmod the Nvidia GT 335M BIOS to over-clock an extra 10 - 20Mhz.

I'm writing this post on a circa 1999 Toshiba Portege with Window XP, a 300Mhz CPU and 192MB of RAM. OK, it's heavily modified, but it's still doing the job.

In New Zealand they took the M11xR1 off the market, to sell the M11xR2.
Then they removed the Core i3 version, then the core i5 version.

Now on the New Zealand site, one year later, you can only buy a highly spec'd Core i7 for approximately 1/5 more than I paid for my M11xR1

Read into that what you like.

M11xR1 will see me good for several years to come.

 

battery life is a huge issue for me so i got the R1 over the R2.

yes out of the box the R1 is slower but after some mods the R1 can hang right next to a OCed R2 when it comes to games.

if you plan to not mod or will be doing a lot of multi threaded stuff the R2/R3 will be the better buy fot your needs.

i am a gamer and i wouldnt trade my modded R1 for a R2.

 

battery life was the issue for me too, but if you are a modder thn the r1 will be equally as awesome as the r2. also iv pretty much come to a conclusion the r1 gets a higher stable gpu overclock.
i think enthusiasts would go the R1 route, 1 being its cheaper, 2 its highly moddable, and 3 it has better battery life.

 

I got my R1 because of price and VGA port. I have been nothing but impressed. I very hesitantly chose it over my MacBook Pro with its optical drive, almost double cpu speed, bigger screen, and even with OSX. I haven't looked back.

I took my MBP's RAM upgrade and put it in here so I'd have 4GB, and my virtual machines run great! (I even got an OSX virtual machine for when I need it.)

 

I traded my SXPS 1647 for an M11x R1+ + Cash. It was good deal, and I've always wanted one . I plan on using it until the m14x is released, and comes down in price.

 

The R1 is still a wonderful little machine IMO. It has better battery life than newer versions and can play pretty much any game out at the moment as long as it isn't a bad port (GTA IV) or just flat out CPU intensive (ARMA II). I prefer the manual switching over optimus because it just works, no white list BS. And at the $600 price point it pretty much blows every "high-end" netbook and cheap ultra-portable away. The only reason I'm getting rid of mine is that I don't actually move it much, it just sits on my desk. Waste of a good notebook if you ask me.

 

GTA 4 runs fine on mine. do a cpu overclock and your all good lol.

 

Hmm, well one more point in the M11x's favor then.

 

I get mine by Friday, they better still be relevant. I plan on using it for a couple of months before I PIN mod it, just to see if there is some defect on mine. so I don't screw myself out of the warranty.

 

It's not as easy as Throttlestop + SetPLL, something everybody with an R2 can do as less then 10 people have pinmodded.

Define enthusiast. If they're looking for top speed, then R2 is the way to go.

What does more potential for modification mean? All the mods for the R2 are done in software because it doesn't need pinmodding. Both can do the same type of vmods.

 

r1 is vintage man, its way cooler than the new r2/r3

really though the r1 is a great laptop and the price cant be beat.

 

oh i meant if your familiar with hard mods then the r1 wouldnt be bad.

 

It means I was just summing up what others had already mentioned... lol

I see what you mean though, and having no personal experience to contradict you I have "fixed" my post

 

It's relavent for as long as you have use for it. Things dont go 'obsolete' because new versions come out. They go obsolete when they can't do what you want them to do.

 

Thats the best the best answer in this thread.

 

Very happy R1 user here. But I don't live on a planet where it is "better" than a R2. I'm sure with enough modding, it can keep up with a stock R2, but not better. If you ask me, there is one area where the R1 beats the pants off the R2: PRICE!

One heck of a machine for less than $600. Only an individuals needs can determine if the better-ness of the R2 is worth the extra money. For me, when you get up near $1000 there are other options in the market that compete. But I don't know a sub $600 machine that beats the R1.

 

with enough modding it can beat a stock r2 by over 1k in 3dm06
and its priced to sell.

 

with enough modding an R2 can beat an OC'd R1 by over 1k in 3dm06
An eye for an eye, a mod for a mod.

 

both true, but i love my battery life

 

I love my battery life too.

Slightly better then my R1 with discrete.

 

Yeah... R2 beats R1...

and R3 beats R2... Just wait, until it is released and you will see...

 

thats pretty good, just browsing with my brightness all the way down i can get about 6 hours and 15 minutes on the intel GMA.
not sure what i get with just discrete, probly around 3 hours, maybe slightly more.

 

Exactly...

 

doesnt mean the r3 will beat the r2 tho. were going to have to wait and find out tho.
it could beat the r2, then again, if theres no mods, the r2 could beat it.

 

I ignored that part because I don't want to derail this thread into yet another R3 thread in disguise.

 

everyone seems to leave out the price diffrence between the R1 and R2.


yes the R2 is slightly better than the R1, but even now its $400 more...



I would trade my R1 for an R2 i7 any day of the week.

 

Where I live, the R1 isn't even available.

 

I saw your PC specs . You should upgrade to an SSD if you want even an even better performance! Also see you play Crossfire

 

This is/was a very important point when comparing the R1 and the R2. Yes the R2 is better and the cpu is faster buy when I bought my R1 the R2 was a significant £400 more (like for like spec).

I noted last night that I could finally get a i5 based R2 for around £50 more than I paid for my R1 (£550) but given the relative specs there is no point.

I also have a very hard time believing that an extra 133MHz on the cpu can suddenly make GTAIV playable. GTAIV basically requires a quad (tri for the sweet spot) core cpu from the get go whilst an increase in clock speed doesn't make much difference at all (tested using a E2160 @ 1.8GHz vs 3GHz and then a Phenom II unlocked into a tri core all with a GTX460).

 

Well, I hope it's still relevant because I just purchased the base model at 599 with a neoprene sleeve My first alienware . . .

Plus with military I got a free upgrade to 250GB hard drive

 

The R1 may be near the EOL but it's definitely still relevant. I intend to use it as my main PC for another year!

 

You're talking to ajslay right?

 

Remember that the r2 cpus has 2 extra threads compare too the core2duos which help a bit in games like gta and bbc2 and has 2mb more cache also which also helps. And the overclocking and thottlestop also helps alot too.

But ya the r1 is still a great machine and if i had the r1 first i wouldn't upgrade too the r2, I was going too get the r1 which i wanted more battery life But than saw a refurb r2 for 920$ on dell outlet and there was a 20% coupon that day so it took about 120$ off and got the r2 for 820shipped

And the battery life ain't bad at all on the r2 i get around 4hours and a half when watching couple shows and browsing the net some too sometimes over 5hours if i just net browsing.

At the time i could've got the r1 for around 545$ but was kinda baseline 160gb 5400rpms hdd and 2gb of ram. Still was a good deal tho.

I just couldn't pass up a maxed r2 i7 8gb of ram. and hdd ain't bad either 250gb 7200rpms, Which i will replace it soon with a ssd or a larger hard drive.

Like now if i was looking for a m11x i would get the r1 over the r2 if i could get it under 600$ refurb i wouldn't pay over 1000$ for the m11x r2 which why i got mine refurb in the first place. Its a great machine even for over a 1000$ but im more of a desktop person which is my main machine and my laptops are for mobile mostly.

Pretty much save alot if you go refurbish sometimes, Like i just configured a r1 with everything baseline except the 250gb hdd and with tax it came out too 704$ so i ony paid 120$ more for the r2 maxed same as buying the r2 it would come out too around 1100.

Both m11xs are great machines cant go wrong with any of them

 

that 133mhz increase makes a heck of a difference.. about 5 fps increase, i can run it at over 30 fps..

 

I still like my R1. I'll probably pin mod it some time when I feel comfortable about nearly destroying a once-$800 computer. I destroyed by Xbox motherboard once with a trace soldering accident lol...too risky! too risky! *Smeagol voice here*

 

I'll admit, I picked up the M11X R1 about 3 weeks ago for $599 and think that maybe I should have waited for the R3 release. However, for what I paid for, I am still happy about my purchase and how well it performs. I'll probably upgrade to an R3 sometime down the road but for now, I am happy with it.

There will always be something "better" out there. When you accept that and learn to be happy with what you already have, anything you own is still "relevant" even if not everyone shares that view.

At least...that's what I keep telling myself from preventing me from going out and buying the R3 only weeks after picking up the R1, lol

 

The price of the base r1 should go to $499.

 

Depends what you expect and what you demand.
If you want 9001 FPS at ultra high graphics, obviously the M11xR1 is out of question (and most computers for that matter).

However, if your looking for a good mobile gaming station that can play games at medium or high settings, the M11x R1 is still VERY relevant. Though it's a bit lack luster for RTS (due to slow CPU), but a good pinmod should do the trick

 

Still happy with my r1 Never had a thought about buying the r2 or r3, but I have had thoughts about buying the m14x to replace my Asus G71, love the Asus but always thought it was too big with no battery life.

Battery life is what my m11x is for, I have not over clocked it or anything just stock from factory. always leave the screen at higest setting and still get 5 hours of battery life just surfing the net or writing. Not having to dim the screen so that it is hard to see to get more battery life is worth the 900.00usd I paid for this computer, however it is also the first computer that has had to be repaired twice in one year. Still waiting for my second hinge replacement.

 

I won't do the pinmod, beciuase I plan on selling this laptop later dowm the road. So far, it still meets my needs, but it will eventually be time to get a more current machine, probably when I have to tone down the settings on some graphically intensive games, so that wont be for a while. My last desktop didn't even have a dual core procesor!

 

lol you can still sell it with a pinmod? id rather have a pinmodded machine thats faster. people would want that. im going to start on the 2ghz soldering mod as soon as i can find the right iron. if it was me, if 2 people were selling an R1 and 1 was pin modded and 1 wasnt, id go for the modded one in a heartbeat.

 

Sounds like someone is talking themselves into getting up the nerve to pin mod their notebook. You go girl.

M11xR1(SLG model) You can use the 0.5Watt 10K resisters (compared to the 1watt 10K resister) to solder onto the chip as they're even smaller than what other people are using and even Nando4 suggests this is a better option.

If one pinmods their M11xR1(SLG), then the point at which the notebook needs to be sold is extended, games will play better as the CPU is freed up and given a stable and successful pinmod, you'll be able command a better selling price.

M11xR1(SLG) pinmod 2.0Ghz CPU and voltage mod'd GPU at 0.95Volts.

Sweet as.

 

I'd be willing to pay someone $50 to pinmod my CPU. I know I'll kill it, I don't have the tools or the skillz or the patience. But alas I know nobody close enough to do it. It performs well, only wish it could handle Bad Company 2 better, it just doesn't for my tastes. Heck I'd live with 1024x576 graphics (maintain 16:9) but can't even do that with the drivers.

 

It's not the graphics that is bottlenecking BFBC2, it's definitely the CPU. I managed to get ~30% better performance from my ~30% overclock so it scales up according to CPU clockspeed. I guess you could try the 1.73Ghz pincutting mod to tide you over ATM.