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    mmorpg gaming

    Discussion in 'Alienware M11x' started by jeffreybaks, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. jeffreybaks

    jeffreybaks Notebook Deity

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    Im a big fan of massive multiplayer role playing games. I just read today that most mmorpgs are cpu intensive games. While Iv played tons of mmorpgs, I was wondering if any one else has any expierence running them on there m11x's. Which games have you played on it and how did they run?
     
  2. danenick1212

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    I play Guild Wars, maxed out, with 60 fps on an R1. Latest Dell video drivers, BIOS overclock, and no other "tweaks" really. I find that the only lag I get is when I open my inventory, but it sometimes lags on my C2D desktop at 3.6ghz, so I'm going to blame the game for that one. I don't think that Guild wars is THAT representative of how a real MMORPG would perform, since once you enter an explorable area, you don't encounter any other human players. You do hit a ton of monsters, but there isn't any CPU work dealing with netcode of others. There is a huge WOW thread here on the forums, I would start there, since most of your answers should lie within that thread.
     
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    I know this lappy poops on WoW but I'm not an MMO guy and don't know more than that.
     
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    Wife and I play DDO (dungeons and dragons online) when we have time. It plays outstanding on the R1. dx10, high, dynamic shadows, all stuff enabled to make it look great. Frames will range from high 40s to 120 depending on outside or dungeon. Best wishes, stevenx
     
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    Flyff (Fly for fun) its the only MMORPG that atm I have run on my m11x, it has work awesome, and well its mhy fav MMORPG :p
     
  6. Breaking Brian

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    According to recent beta posts. The m11x in Beta gets around 10-20 FPS in the FFXIV MMO. The beta caps out at 30 and isnt configurable.... But its apparently playable!
     
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    I am running Eve Online with everything maxed out as well. Looks amazing.
     
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    Playing WoW on the R1 everything set to ultra except shadows (which are one notch above low) Getting 60 fps in northrend 25-30 in dalaran.
     
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    FFXI has terrible FPS problems but this is an nVidia driver issue with the 250 driver line with DX7 games. nVidia claims it will be fixed for the 260 line.

    FFXIV is having a host of issues. GTX 480's are apparantly terrible with the game atm and ATI 5870's also stutter when people come into view. This should all get fixed by the end of the beta hopefully, so I'm sure this laptop could play it... just not on super high settings
     
  10. jeffreybaks

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    I was wondering since aion is my favorite game right now, there is only one video of it on the tube and its only 50 seconds long. Also the new All Points Bulletin released not to long ago. How about some mmos that have been out but are resource hungery games, like Age of Conan or vanguard or warhammer online.
    Also Guildwars 2 and Star Wars the old republic will be coming out early next year, do you think we will see updates to the m11x that will help with those games as well, and how will they run do you think on the current models.
    As much as I like mmos though I need it for extream portability as well. I take my laptops every where I go, to the coffe shops, resturants, parks. I like that the m11x is a 11 inch laptop. There are some other models though that might suit my needs in the mmo gaming category like I just seen for the first time today the lenovo y460 which looks really sweet, its a 14 inch laptop though and I dont know how mobile it would be comapred to the m11x, it also comes with a i5 520m , which is of course not a ultra low voltage processor. Theres a few other models I like to being the acer 3820tg, and the envy 14. I think the envy 14 suits my needs the best because it has a decent screen which is 1600x1200 radiance screen that suposedly is the best thing everyone has ever seen. I love screens, the vaio z has a 1600x1200 screen, and Iv always wanted one but its to much for me price wise right now. SO what do you think will give me the best gaming in mmos along with portability out of these laptops not considering price.
     
  11. Breaking Brian

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    I can run Aion on low settings with my macbook and INTEL graphics lmao! It will run it fine. But counting on it to run GW2 and SWTOR? Maybe on low... very low....
     
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    Depends on the zone. I ran fraps last time I played with no GPU overclock and cpu @158 and my FPS in party fights(6 people) were 18-22 in the main outside zone and 22-28 in the other zone in the beta. From what i've seen so far the game is playable as long as you are over 20 fps, in town when it drops to 10-15 it starts to lag pretty bad. I've seen 30 in some areas, but it won't be that way in populated zones like the towns or quest areas.

    The betas over and a new phase starts in mid august, I'm hoping they add some optimization so it wont lag as much in town.
     
  13. kg21vc15

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    Most of the issues cleared up in the last two weeks as far as the stuttering goes. IMO the game will have to run with a mix of low and medium settings to get a constant 30 FPS, it might be playable with some things on high depending on where you are in the game.
     
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    Do you have an SSD or something? I get 10-15 in dalaran with same settings as you!! I also play on an ultra populated server though.
     
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    I play WoW on high population server and raid 25icc HM. Everything is on med-High settings and max resolution on my Hanns-G 28.5" monitor. Dalaran 20-35 fps 25man raid 20-25 fps, anywhere else 60-100+ fps.

    Specs: M11x R1 w/ BIOS OC, 4g ram, 250 hdd

    WoW was running like crap for a while until i uninstalled the nvidia drivers and freshly installed the newest from dell, and also in BIOS set the GPU to run discrete only(only on nvidia card) now it runs very very good.
     
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    Is anyone on the (or has access to) the beta for star wars the old republic? I've got the m11x-R1 and I'm curious to know if my little monster will cope with the game.
     
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    Dalaran where exactly? In the middle of the horde part I only see 10 FPS.]

    Edit: Put everything on Quality: Good and yeah I can see 20-25.
     
  18. discothan

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    I also use R1 but upgraded my HD to a hybrid SSD/HDD from Seagate (Momentus XL 500GB). On medium settings and shadows turned off I get 60fps+ outside of instances and populated cities.

    Depending on 10/25man and how much activity on screen, inside instances it can drop down to 10-20fps.

    It is still very playable...just need to know to change the camera angle and look away from all the pollution.
     
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    The last sentence is the KEY to good performance with the R1 in my opinion.

    @All - I am wondering what we need to purchase to be a part of the Star Wars - Old Republic MMO beta myself... I dont care if I have to purchase Galaxies to get access. Whatever it is... I willd do it. I want to test out the M11x on that. The vids so far look amazing. I can see myself losing many hours to that game. Many hours...

    Best wishes, StevenX
     
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    Steve, the first wave of the beta was a random pick of account holders, though only in the US. They'll be extending further beta waves outside of the US at a later date as far as I can work out.

    sign up for free account > Star Wars: The Old Republic | Game Testing
     
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    It honestly depends on the MMORPG. WoW tends to be CPU intensive as it's an older engine. A lot of modern MMORPGs, I find, actually use very little CPU power.

    For example, Lord of the Rings Online. One of the most beautiful MMORPGs out there, and it uses about 20% of my CPU power (2GHz Core 2 Quad). I can't imagine it reaching any more than about 50% on the M11x.

    Guild Wars is a very old game at this point. It runs on DirectX 8, for goodness sake. It's hardly intensive; I can run it with my CPU and GPUs in maximum power saving, and it still runs maxed out at 60fps. Granted I've got an M17, not an M11x, but you see my point (I hope).
     
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    Well I read that the networking code used alot of cpu in mmorpgs, like when your playing with others the cpu has to do all the work from the other players networking, netcode or something.
     
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    It's still in in-house testing. They haven't extended the beta outside the development QA team.
     
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    That's kinda funny. I'm still playing EverQuest. The first one. Now well past it's 11th anniversary...
     
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    I never said it WAS intensive. I wasn't really even referring to the graphics in my post. I was talking about netcode and its effect on CPU utilization and FPS. Also, your comparison of M17x on power saving to anything done on the M11x is an apples to oranges comparison. At any rate, the WOW thread pretty much sums up the performance you'll expect on the M11x, and there are other threads focusing on other MMORPG's as well.
     
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    I personally think that the smaller notebooks should be able to run games on desktop levels cause of there screen resoulution. Hell there is a nintendo 3ds that is coming out in 2011 and has the same power suposedly for gaming as the ps3 does and the wii and the xbox 360. Why cant we have smaller laptops that can play games on the same as desktop levels.
     
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    Correction , it doesn't have the graphical abilities of the ps3 , xbox 360. but it is more along the lines of Game-cube , Original xbox , and Wii but in its small size , Also due to the screen resolution AA wont be an issue so games wont look pixely at edges :D
     
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    I won't go into specifics and what not but I play Lineage 2 (Maxed settings)on a private server (Because I'm poor) and it runs famously. Such a step up from what/ i was used to (absolute garbage). Run smoothly and looked pretty too. FPS stayed above fourty 90% of the time.
     
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    I actually am getting better FPS now (Thought WoW was capped at 60 fps apparently not) Im getting around 30-50 in dala depending on how many people (though it drops occasionally to the 20's) in 5 mans anywhere from 60-200 (yes I have had 200ish fps at one point in a 5 man) and 50-150ish in WSG) most northrend zones itds 60 but can drop to 30-40.


    Im on the R1 model, no SSD, dell 197.72, A01 driver, overclocked to 1.7.

    All my details are on ultra (as said before) with shadows one notch from low but I now have disabled vsync.

    I also followed stenxown(Sorry if I spelt that wrong)'s BC2 Optimisation thread just leaving out the BC2 part and following everything else I noticed an incredible perormance boost in WoW after doing so (WoW seemed capped at 60 fps then but im guessing that was vsync)

    Kind of ironic though as I cant seem to get any other games to play "smooth" I can get great FPS 100+ in COD4 for example but I still get some strange stuttering.
     
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    I play lotro maxed out and love it.
     
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    Thats interesting cause Iv always wanted to give L2 ago, and as aion is my favorite game Im sure Id like it. How about in larger fort seiges, how does it handle then? That has to be alot of netcode for the m11x to process.