well...just opened up the r2 and...

bought a r2 for my cousin. came with the intel i7 processor. you can select the fsb speed in bios, but you can not change the voltage.

when i tried to adjust the fsb to 166mhz (highest) you can go, the laptop shuts off immediately. the cpu speed does not change even if i increase the fsb by 10mhz.

just so you guys know...sounds like a upcoming issue. it's not my laptop, but just so you guys know this

 

heh, the fan also comes on pretty often. it's running @ stock speed. it seemsw like intel has locked their cpu frequency so you can't change them, even if there is an option in the bios to change the fsb

 

Wacky Doodle...

I don't want to seem forward, but.. What sort of WEI does it give you?

 

what is wei? sorry i have left the pc industry for too long

 

fyi..the edges on the palmrest seems kinda rough

 

Windows Experience Index. Basically it's in the Windows Vista & 7. Kinda tell you what windows give as a rating for each part of the machine.

 

wei 3.5

the reason why it's so low is because of the graphics. i don't think the 335m was active when wei did the calculation. i believe the score came from the onboard intel hd graphics

 

lol i think the overclock case is going to pis$ a lot of people off, unfortunately.

 

Sorry, I should have explained myself.

I just thought the Windows Experience Index was an easy way of getting an idea of the Windows 7 system performance as you mentioned it's not your system.

Start -> Computer -> System Properties.

Then click on 'Windows Experience Index' under the system sub-heading.

Another small CPU performance test is an application call wPrime.

However this requires a 'small' download and I don't feel comfortable asking if you'd like to download the application to test the CPU of someone else system.

But for your information the link is below.

Downloads | wPrime Multithreaded Benchmark

This application only checks the speed of your processor.

Please feel free to ignore me, just you're the first person I've seen that's popped up and said, "Guess what I have".

 

Thank you for providing that information you're being VERY helpful.

What is the Processor score?

My M11xR1 has the following score when over-clocked with 4GB RAM and 500GB HDD

Processor: Calculations per second 4.6
Memory(RAM): Memory operations per second 5.6
Graphics: Desktop performance for Windows Aero 6.5
Gaming graphics: 3D business and gaming graphics performance 6.5
Primary hard disk: Disk data transfer rate 5.9

 

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3780/windowsexperienceindex.png

here it is

wprime does not seem to be working, perhaps there is no support for i7 ulv yet?

anyways..going to bed..talk to you folks tomorrow

 

that... significantly higher. in comparison, my overclocked desktop q6600 quad core cpu (clocked at 3.2Ghz) gets 7.3.

i guess i stand corrected, it not making a difference, but i'll wait for some official gaming benchmarks first.

 

Ah yes, I fall for that trap all the time. With many applications accessing system resources you need to ran the app. as Administrator.

Highlight the wPrime application, right click and select 'run as Administrator'.

This is a security feature to stop system resources being accessed by 'rouge' processes.

With wPrime, I select the 32M test as it completes quicker and most tests tend to use the 32M option for comparisons.

 

Interesting, since memory are the same on M11xR1 and R2, why did R2 get 0.1 more than R1? A hick-up?

 

The numbers from Notebookcheck's review of R1:

Processor
Calculations per second
4.6
Memory (RAM)
Memory operations per second
5.4
Graphics
Desktop performance for Windows Aero
6.5
Gaming graphics
3D business and gaming graphics
6.5
Primary hard disk
Disk data transfer rate
5.9


Processor from 4.6 to 5.7! Not bad! But like it's been said, WEI is not a good indicator of games performance, and thats what really matters!

 

Having all the scores above the 5.0 mark is pretty satisfying I winder what score the i5 would get

 

True, but given it's not our man's notebook and so I thought I'd start off with some quick wins.

@ ryanlin2002... Hello?? hello??? Is it morning yet?

 

Was this WEI taken with the processor OC'd, or at stock speed?

 

There is always a small margin of error/difference.

 

The Win7 WEI memory test is bogus. When my XPS630 desktop was stock with C2D Q9550 (no OC with Q9xx CPUs) and 4GB DDR2, the WEI memory score was 6.7. After I ripped it apart and stuffed a Gigabyte x58a-ud5 mobo, i7 920, 6GB triple channel, WEI memory score went to 5.9!! Funny thing is I OCthe 920 to 3.8ghz the memory score went to 7.7. My overall WEI score is 7.7 for that whole box, yes every component scores 7.7 (ATI5850 and Intel 160GB G2 SSD).

My other desktop running an i5 650 scores 5.9 in memory.

Another thing I just thought of. My Envy15 was 5.9 in memory with the stock 4GB. It went to 6.7 after I put 8GB in there.

Bottomline who knows what Win7 WEI is testing as far as memory. Is it testing capacity or speed? If it's capacity
why did my stock XPS630 with 4GB DDR2 score 6.7?

Anyway, 5.7 on the CPU is a significant improvement over the R1. My last laptop XPS1340 with a P8600 (C2D 2.4ghz) CPU was a 6.0 CPU score. My Envy15 with i5 430 is 6.7.

 

the processor was running @ stock when the wei did the calculation.

i take my original statement on the processor overclockability back. you can overclock the processor by adjusting the fsb. however, the new clock speed will NOT show up in BIOS or windows 7 system profile. you have to download cpu-z to see the clock speed.

the i7 on the laptop can't go beyond 10mhz. anything higher than that will cause lock ups. i haven't executed prime95 to test the system stability for any settings less than 10mhz on the fsb.

i am currently @ work. i will do more testing when i get home

 

mine has been at 166 before I even installed windows, no issues. Gets a little warmer than the r1 though.

 

interesting, did you run prime95 to test the stability?

 

Good to know...

Now, if the BCLK is at 166MHz, is there any way to test that it can fully turbo up to 2.66GHz? Anyone know?

 

Havent had a chance.

 

I used cpu-z while doing some stuff and saw it hit 2.8 something at one point, but I've no idea if that is accurate or how i series works.

 

Haah... I was right the first time. I theorized it would be a multiplier of 17 (as 16 would be just under). That's good to know.

 

2.8??? i hope that value works while were playing CPU demanding games.. this is OC'd.. wow..

 

Ok guys, 2.8 is the max turbo when O/Ced. But at this speed, only 1 core is active. What we need to do is get cpu-z. Then Run Prime95 with 4 active threads (2 cores + 2 HT threads) and see what the max speed is. This will give us accurate numbers.

 

That should be on one core.

 

That was actually just copying a ton of files (30gb of music)

 

yeah, one core. just impressed of the increase from the SU7300

 

That is an impressive clock speed no doubt, sadly so far in the other threads all that extra speed doesn't seem to be translating into any game performance. People testing within 1-2 fps of the R1 with the R2 I7.

 

Yeah hames do not seem much different, I have a Photoshop project to do in a few minutes, I do expect some difference there

 

If only we had a say over when the processor would be overclocked - not Intel's BS turbo-boost. Wouldn't be surprised if it's a bigger fail than Optimus in its current iteration.

 

Ok, photoshop-wise, I'm very pleased, seems about twice as speedy as the r1.

 

Yoda sadly almost every game is GPU bond. For people who already had a R1 and just use it for gaming, really no point to upgrade. For people who don't have an R1, the R2 is a better overall machine.

 

2.8? god damn.

No freezing or stability issues so far?

 

2.8 is the norm. With the factory and support O/C on the I7 from dell, and I7 turbo boost there should be zero issues. Remember at 2.8GHZ, its only 1 core.

 

sorry im a newb to all this lingo... soo what does 2.8GHZ for one core mean?... does that mean its super fast? since it has two core ? sorry... im just a guy trying to learn more about his recent purchase and be able to read what these "benchmarks" mean can anyone care to explain? thanks for you patience...

 

Turbo boost temporarily increases the speed of one core at the cost of the other not being utilised.

Check this video explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llOXMPXH2VA&feature=related

 

so to see real overclocked speed we need to disable turbo boost in bios. Can you do this and show us again cpu-z on 167 mhz please

 

This makes sense. Crysis, GTA4 and other games where created for Dual-Core as a minimum! Not single core. Not even a very high frequencyed single core. These damanding games are dual core applications!


I guess a i7 um, at 2.8 would be roughly like a basic Dual core T3400 2.0 GHz ? That's a standard Dual Core.

But only.. The Dual core has two cores all the time, with steady clocks, while turbo boost maximises one core. This sounds great for general applications and multitasking, but for Dual-Core heavy games?


Basically Turbo Boost and Optimus sounds like that they are deciding when to shut on and off. The users rely on their limited intelligence!
Is this the beginning of a whole foray of problems with games support?

 

Turbo boost activates when one core isn't being utilised by the application, to take advantage of the frequency headroom. If 2 are being used, it wont shut one off. It will however boost the core under stress with some of the available headroom from the one which isn't under heavy load.

Most applications don't max out the power of both cores.

 

Ok! good to know

 

yeah one core is nice, but considering most apps use multiple core support now, it's kind of whatever to me. When dual cores first came out, Pentium IV's even at 3.0+ Ghz were being matched by dual core 1.8Ghz computers so.. dual core speed would be great to see. Like someone mentioned a wprime + cpu-z might help see what that speed is. wprime is greatly improved by i7 though.. like 29 sec or something.. very good.

 

It should turbo to around 2.4GHz on two cores if overclocked, assuming a multiplier of 17 (as seen from the CPU-Z screenie).

 

i am also more interested in seeing the i5 and i7 with both their cores overclocked

 

2.8 would be the maximum boost any core could get. when you're not drawing 100% power from the cpu and you're using 4 cores, it will clock them to higher speeds than the default clocks.

my i5-750 stays clocked at 2.8ghz when utilizing 4 cores, even though the stock speeds are at 2.66ghz.

so this processor could still run multiple cores at a higher than stock speed.

however, i don't think it will really improve much graphical rendering.

in terms of CPU performance, the CPU will be responsible for more 'AI' and holding game state variables and executing automata commands to the game. the gpu will really render much of what you see, so the increased CPU may not really help games since the GPU was originally designed for the SU4100 / SU7300. remember, this is a proprietary GPU, so it's already been designed to be highly compatible with the first gen processors. the new line of processors will improve every day computing experiences, but i don't think it will greatly boost gaming performance.