Good Lord, Joker, I surprised it didn't incinerate. That's awesome, but believable; 7 seconds is other-worldly. Congratulations doesn't seem adequate for that kind of result. Did they increase the TDP any on the 940XM?
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Here's another run I just did. This is with the system fully loaded with 5 firefox tabs, radeon pro, TS, MS essentials, alienware osd/command center and no services disabled--in another words, if I disabled services and did a clean run it probably would have broken the 7 second barrier. Rev, the default TDP on the 940xm is 62W. I did this run at 105W!
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wow 105 tdp, thanks for that info. kinda scared to set it too high.
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The undisputed King of wPrime in the AW world, and maybe far afield. Very nice indeed.
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I'm hoping that with some CPU cooling tweaks, I can run under 7 without worries of the CPU getting too hot. With an AC blowing on it, I bet sub 7 runs would be very easy to do.
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Out of my league, Joker, but it's fun to watch.
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wow this bench seems fun and quick, gonna test it out tomorrow when i have proper cooling, hahahahaha
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Lol I don't know.. but my score's for Wprime are at 38 seconds?!
EDIT: Cancel that, forgot to set it at 8 cores. Change that to 8.7 seconds! Not 38 lol..
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No idea how to push it furthur really, not that I care at this point
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wow nice rev, what was your tdp for that?
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Either 80W or 85W, not dead sure. Probably 85. Getting into my caution zone.
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Sweet ill start there,lol
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I put 90 on mine.. but I think I can handle more as well.
EDIT: Wprime run up. Proper run after restart. Did have a few programs open though (msn, hwmonitor, cpu-z, TS, radeonPro, skype.. mostly)
So no Joker score.. but its decent.
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What's a safe everyday usage/gaming TDP increase?
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Looking at hwbot wprime 1.55 listings, OC'd i7 920's are running slower than the runs I put up. There's of course some that are a few seconds faster but those are hitting 4 ghz. Once I'm done tweaking my cooling, I bet if I raise my bclk and tdp and hit about 3.8 ghz on the cores, I'll start matching the very best i7 920 desktop numbers. Who needs an X7200 eh?
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Here is a good wprime run I did for HWBot for my 920 and 940 CPUs. Not to bad. don't remember what TDP I used. The 940 I probably could have pushed harder, but there wasn't really much incentive. I should be able to match my 920XM fairly easily. Maybe one day this week I'll put the 940 back in.
These runs are done at room temp just sitting on the cryo cooler on my desk. I'm too lazy to set up a stand for an A/C runs.
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here is my latest wprime run:
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DR650SE -- that's sick. 6.559 seconds. On air? You are the new King. Congratulations. Now, how do you do that? Joker was running a 940 at 105W, but is nearly a full second slower. There has to be a limit on this hardware. So, teach the newbie a few tricks.
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Lol thanks, well for starters I used SetFSB to up the FSB of the CPU so I didn't need so many multipliers. I don't like the CPU multiplier jumping around to much. Upped the voltage by 150mV in the BIOS, and cranked the TDP way up. Probably 115W or higher. I figured it's a quick run so it should be ok. Plus, I got a warranty. Can the voltage be upped in the M15x? the M15x has the ability to increase by 75mV or 150mV, which really isn't much. I've run super_pi 1M runs at 3.963GHz before. The wprime run was just over 3.7GHz. Plus the 940XM is really a 920XM running with a multiplier of 25 at default versus the 24 the 920 has. Other than that they are the same chip. Only advantage to the 940 is the default speed. If your overclocking, a 920 will do just as good. In Vantage my 920XM has scored 22366 for the CPU, though my GPU score wasn't up to snuff.
Once I get home I'm going to try and get some stuff together to do some bench runs on dry ice which should give me a CPU operating temp of -70*C to -80*C. Pretty low, but I don't think it'll be low enough to run into any cold bug issues.
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Thanks, I need to cogitate on that a little. Just remarkable. Is that a HWBot record for the 920XM?
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See what did I say? Increase teh bclk and it'll reach desktop OC'd 920 speeds.
The M15x doesn't have CPU voltage control but they should still be able to push sub 7 if they use setfsb + tdp control.
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Yeah. SetFSB won't work on mine. Hit or miss on the PLL with the M15x's, but shouldn't be that big a handicap with multiplier control, even if less precise. How do you find a limit for TDP (short of killing the brick or the motherboard)? Are there any warning signs? I lost a mobo pushing a Vantage CPU run at pretty high levels (but with TDP nowhere near the levels you guys are talking about), and got no warning signs at all before things just went black -- and stayed that way.
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Yea, the 920/940 really are impressive chips. Currently I hold all the HWbot records for the 520M/920XM/940XM chips except the Super_pi 32M record which TheCodeBreaker holds. It appears his CPU idles (with 5% OC enabled) at 140.9MHz and mine at 140.4MHz. So when he increases his multiplier to 26 or 27, he is at 3.94GHz and I'm at 3.963GHz. So since his is slightly lower, it is just stable enough for a sub 10min super_pi 32M run. Mine makes it 1.5 min into it and crashes, and if I lower anything, I don't have a high enough clock speed to keep up.
It's ok, when I put it on dry ice it should help out a little. Just give me a few months
I tried everything from high multipliers (29,30) with a really low FSB (under 130MHz) to high FSB (150MHz) with low multipliers (around 22-23), just couldn't find the sweet spot. Yet. Played with it for maybe 4 hours yesterday.
To give an idea of how much testing and crashing I've done on my benchmarking SSD (40 GB Intel X-25V) Crystal disk at the moment is reporting a "Power on Count" of 955 times, and "Power on Hours" of only 162. Thats roughly 17 times I've powered it on per hour (16.9 times/hour) Sad reallyOut here I have no life lol.
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@Mandrake: Welcome back. We were sorta getting worried about you.
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No problem. Yea it is fun. Although when I get tired of the benching I use my computer to run my projector and watch movies. I havn't had a chance to game on it yet either. But that should be coming this week. I agree, it is fun. But once I have the benching done, I run everything at stock settings.
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i haven't pushed the memory yet, its at 1100 for most if not all my benches, prolly gonna start upping it, just to see how far it can go.
here is an 06 run i just did:
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just for fun i ran vantage on battery power, hahahahahah
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Memory should be able to go as high as 1250 but I don't know if you can do it with the core that high.
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This may be a dumb question but why can't we go above 1.15 volts on the GPU? Anyone try any higher?
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awesome scores inap! i´m talking to tech service to take a hd5850, but seems to be very hard...
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Did another quick run.
115W, too scared to push it furthur, or go the long route DR took lol.Attached Files:
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Was that wPrime run at stock i7-920XM clocks? If so, that cpu is very close to twice as fast as the i7-620M, which makes a lot of sense if it is indeed true that the Extreme cpus can have each core to the highest Turbo Boost multiplier at the same time.
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How long can the M15x run @ 3.2GHz stable?
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Well if it's stable for ever. If it's shuts down or freezes or BSOD at all, then not stable. So really, how long it can run, and whether or not it's stable are two completely differant things. Also depends on what CPU your running 3.2GHz on.
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All - Does anyone every benchmark the base I3-330 to see what game performance is like with the 5730 or the 5850?
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what kind of benches would you like to see. i have an i3 but haven't tried it out yet.
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