1080 Benches

http://hothardware.com/news/evga-ge...ed-avx-30-edition-and-gtx-1080-sli-sneak-peek

now I know this is not the specific forum for this, but some of us surely love reading up on 1080 and it's progress.

I have been telling people it was not going to be spectacularly faster then a 980 Ti, and some comparisons are out now, though not conclusive.

Just wondering your thoughts, and how it will affect the MOBILE versions, and such down the road this year.

 

I was reading that earlier today. I think waiting for the 1080Ti in SLI is all you will need to be able to max out all games in 4K with 60FPS Minimum.. Should bring excellent performance gains to the laptops if they can keep the thermals under control. Wonder how long until the mobile versions are released?

 

Gtx 1080 has been a massive disappointment for me. I'll keep my 980ti and get a 8 core instead.

 

or Sli 980 Ti.

 

Yeah they are bargains now. I was temped to get a second one the other day. I just had to remind myself how crap 980 sli was and that saw to those impulses.
If I had a 4k screen frametimes might not be such a noticeable issue. But I'm always shooting for high fps at a peasant 1080p.

 

That won't be enough for me considering the extra benefits that come with the 1080 lineup.. The new multi screen correction, much better VR etc.. 1080Ti in SLI will hit the sweet spot, whenever that gets released...

 

If you use 3 screens sure. I use a 4K 56" 60hz screen that is curved and pretty much covers my field of view 100%. No benefit for me to go to 1080 at all. I have my 980Ti's running at 1550Mhz on the core. So, like 50% OC, and they for sure beat Sli 1080 at stock.

You know, for 1080N it might even be, that it's not a great card at all. Who is going to use 2-3 monitors for surround gaming on a laptop, or use it for VR ? ACtually VR is more likely IMO.

Stick the laptop in a knapsac and on your back, connect tethered via wifi and use your VIVE, your wireless gaming VR on the go ! Go and do THAT in public while waiting for the bus to school !

 

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/8597249/fs/8597350/fs/8597452/fs/8610862/fs/8611073

Last one is the best I can get out of my 5820K and 1080 hybrid

 

not that i recommend you try it. but have you seen this article over on xdevs uncorking the 1080?
https://xdevs.com/guide/pascal_oc/
the related form
http://forum.kingpincooling.com/showthread.php?t=3879
unfortunately they haven't posted any benchmark scores/clocks yet

 

The is my 980ti Hybrid and a 5820k


http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8352084?

Not much of difference at all...about 5% on the GPU score.

Why is that the best you can get out of at 1080 Hybrid? Is the 8 pin power limiting you?

Not to sound like a bi$ch, but that's why I'm waiting for the 1080ti. What did you have before?

 

I like the curved 4K TV you got going on, I'm in the market for one of those my self preferably OLED because I am in love with OLED picture quality.. Hoping to see something good with Gsync implemented realeased soon, and possibly something over 60Hz (as unlikely as we are to see that anytime soon). I don't think I can hold out too much longer before taking the plunge. The 17R3's 4K screen is just not enough for the way I do gaming.

In regards to your 50% overclocks and "no reason to upgrade" a very good one would be reliability. You wouldn't have to OC the 1080 series anywhere near as much to get way better performance while increasing over your current GPU lifespan by at least 50%. I don't imagine your 980Ti's will last very long. Personally you'll never see me go past 25% OC even when water cooled, 30% max.

 

more the hard limit of 180w at 100% or can bump to 120%, more voltage can sometimes cause even worse throttle


I had a titan x previously, I'm just not keen on having older hardware that devalues, so I sold it.

 

I've had my 980ti running @ 1475 with with no extra voltage running through it. It's a hybrid too so it's keeping well cool.

Wasn't the point @Mobius 1 's benchmark that it was the most he could get with the 1080? Unless I'm misunderstanding something, "the most one can get" usually means their OC effort.

Overclocking a card by 50% doesn't mean you'll reduce it's lifespan by %50...it doesn't work like that.

UPDATE: @Mobius 1 Hopefully a custom vbios can rectify the throttle and it's not because you're power starved.

 

really hope that would be the case, itching to actually discover the full power of this thing haha

 

It's good you got underwater. I was considering getting it and using my EVGA Hybrid on it. Then I saw Gamer Nexus do it and hit the 8 pin power limit.
You should still be able to comfortably beat my 980ti though. What clocks were you running on that bench?

 

+50mv
+200
+500mem
I'm not on water per se, It's a hybrid cooler from the titan x

 

+200 seems to be about all people are getting on the core right now. By any chance are you TK421 on Overclock.net ? He seems to be selling a m15x r1 for the same price.

 

@Mobius 1 nice job on the cooler mod + tutorial on NBR

FTW dual-8pin 215watt card, 10+2pp, dual-bios $679​

"For the Win! The GTX 1080 FTW features custom PCB with two eight-pin power connectors and 10+2 phase power design. It should theoretically provide much better overclocking than Founder Edition, if not the power limit.. Either way, the GTX 1080 FTW is equipped with two BIOSes, so there’s some room for experiments."

Classy gets dual8p 14phase triple bios​

"The GTX 1080 CLASSIFIED is definitely one of the flagship Pascal cards (alongside MSI Lightning, ZOTAC PGF). It also features dual 8-pin power connectors, but also V-check points and even more powerful PCB with 14+3 phase power design, features three BIOS chips.This strange thing mounted on the right side is called EVGA Power Link. It basically allows you to route PEG cables to the side, allowing cleaner cable management. You can find more pictures of this thing here."

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"The Hybrid should definitely provide more efficient and quieter cooling solution than ACX 3.0, but it takes extra space for radiator. Not much has been officially said about this card yet, but from our short investigation this card should feature the same PCB as FTW edition."

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Asus Strix: 8:2 pp, 'up to 300w', 6+8pin powa $64
MSI SeaHawk looks tight (solo-8p)
list of new cards & power connectors​

 

if it doesn't limit people doing LN2 overclocking i cant imagine that it would bother those on water or air

 

We wish.. Cmon keep up Gamer Nexus put a hybrid like Mobius 1 and was power limited due to a single 8 pin rather than thermals.

 

http://forum.kingpincooling.com/showpost.php?p=31321&postcount=7

well theirs always my post from earlier you can get so far then slap full a water block on it if you want more power

like some people did the the fury

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=142320

 

Yeah unless your upgrading from 680/780 or 970 or 980 (Not 980Ti or Titan X) I wouldn't touch a 1080. I would wait a year and get a Ti version instead. Hype won't last forever, the 1080 has some nice features that they have ALWAYS HAD on the Quadro cards, but now they UNLOCKED them on the normal GPU's so you think your getting some bargain or deal. Performance wise, seems it's only more efficient then more powerful, really. If you compare performance on a per Watt basis, I bet THEN the 1080 looks better. Then if you consider a 200W 980Ti vs a 200W 1080 there might be worthwhile differences. The features they "unlocked" by drivers, for the 1080 could have been done by nVidia for the 980, or 980Ti even. The presentation they did, was selling snake oil, really.

1080 Snake oil ! Get it with the founders editions ! Extra confusion at a higher pricetag !

NVIDIA is the same company that released all those broken drivers last year, that killed tons of computers and computer screens all over the world and didn't say anything about it. Now they are selling their snake oil, at a higher price, changing the word reference to FOUNDERS edition, so they can charge you more, and instead of making something faster, they unlocked a bunch of technologies they have had on other nvidia cards for a decade(Since now gamers are so complex they basically require what complex developers use to create games, to play them now, lol).

AMD does NOT cater to the high end crowd that most of us are in, but I wish they did. They are after all a competitor with INTEL directly, a much larger and much more sophisticated company then NVIDIA, which has a small niche/minority market. (something like 10% the market AMD has).

It's a shame, really. AMD would have not made us wait 2-3 years for a new product and then deliver something that already existed and try to pawn it off as something new - oh wait, they do that too?? Rebranding, whats that, pffft com'on we're not stupid enough top fall for that from AMD, surely we're not going to fall for that from NVIDIA. Snake oil is such a rare thing, get it while you can, because who knows how such a thing is created !

 

@woodzstack I'm not sure anyone could complain about the pricing. You get more than Titan X performance for half the price. That's a steal. But yes, the 1080Ti in SLI is the only way to go.

 

well you know, I once paid 550USD for my Voodoo 5 64MB VGA x8 card. With inflation from 15 years to now, thats like saying it was 1,000$. So I guess 599USD for 1,000X the performance is a great buy, since the number of years that have past since the technology existed/was released doesn't factor into your equation.

However, on a serious note, I always thought the Titan X was a gimmick, and a waste of money - and a few weeks later I was right - when they revealed the 980Ti to be 1/3rd the price but the same performance !

That is like when I wasted money on the Voodoo and AMD released this x16 9250 GPU that was 5x faster for half the price, not long after.

I'm just cautioning people, because the 1080 is not what we've been waiting for, something is wrong here, and NVIDIA has a tendency to release what they really are holding back, once they get rid of the garbage stock first, to early adopters. What makes me feel this way, is the fact they pretended to create all new technology when they only unlocked it on the 1080. Like the VR surround stuff, or multi gpu threading etc.. all those features, exist and have for almost 2 decades on their workstation cards. Can someone who knows what I'm referring to weigh in, with their expertise here?

 

I read some topic about Asus secret project new Gx700 with water cooling

And they tell it in test about some xxx project so I suppose that is mobile 1080 and in Asus test she is faster then desktop titan x

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I just want max settings at 1080P really. I personally don't care to go any higher on a laptop screen.

You mean GTX cards can start rendering again without being artificially gimped? This would literally give me zero practical reason to go with AMD.

 

WHAT A LOAD OF CR@P that graph is! So misleading. It's picturing the TITAN X as if it's 2x faster but if you look points wise, it's not even 3%. Now of course they probably screwed it up more than that, it's basically a COMPLETE lie.

The whole thing is meant to mislead you and falsify. It leaves the last one for you to speculate, meaning they WANT you to believe its the 1080 but it CLEARLY is not. So do not be fooled. Man I hate the world we live in when people do this sh1t.

Funny how they also try and make the R9 295 faster too, by making the mistake and putting X2 (twice) on it, making people think it is potentially PART of the product naming. Why not show us the truth, which is 2 x (twice) R9 295 in Crossfire, does not even beat a 2nd hand REGULAR edition 980 Ti.
(though don;t get me wrong, the requirements for crossfire room, power wise, equipment, time and the fact not all games use it, and that 2 x R9 295 will cost you like 1.5X as much as a 980Ti anyways)

Where was this stupid lie posted anyways ? Man I just BURN with rage when i see lies and deceitful cr@p like this. This is why I got into providing GPU services for people I know, friends family colleagues, associates etc...
not trying to pat myself on the back or promote my brand here or anything of the sort, but this type of deceitfulness is what motivated me BIG TIME.

There is so much stuff like this all over. Just pissed me off. Even DELL doesn't stoop this low. Seriously.

 

It's likely 2 x 980 desktops.
They should just be upfront about it. I also despise how they make those graphs deliberately ambiguous.

 

What features again?

 

What do you mean?

 

Nah, those are firestrike scores, pretty well known numbers.

 

I mean anybody that can read a graph knows nVidia is just fluffing the appearance of the numbers. It's up to the consumer to be educated about what they buy and cut through all the marketing BS

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8662382

 

I'm confused....desktop GPU/board, but uses a 4700MQ? WTF?

 

Yeah I'm not sure what to make of it. Mainly too because the 1080 isn't running lower clocks. If it were a mobile solution might that be otherwise...
There's just the mobile cpu.. With a questionable desktop MB.. Are we missing something here @Dufus?

 

http://www.asrock.com/ipc/overview.asp?Model=IMB-180

ive seen similar motherboards before not sure what they are used in

also seen desktop motherboards with desktop sockets using sodimm ram

strange things

 

Yeah, about 500 points, managed an 18k run with the i7-4700MQ and GTX-1080.

The OP asked for benches so I gave him one just to give an idea what might be possible.

 

What a strange motherboard....two serial ports in 2016?

 

Used to be parallel and serial ports came as standard with laptops.

It's not two either, it's six. Two of which can be configured through BIOS to be either RS232 or RS485. BTW I use serial ports a lot, usually have to buy USB adapters.

Anyway a 3DMark11 performance bench comparison. Quite close really.

 

Currently #65 in Firestrike leaderboard


http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8761646

 

ITX boards with laptops parts is nothing new, great for little teen tiny builds.

Not all parts are for gaming or home users, some folks with factory lines and PLCs and PLC controllers you know.

 

My 1080 Bench

 

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