186.91 GT300M Information

New driver 186.91 has the following info:

- NVIDIA_DEV.0A66.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 310"
- NVIDIA_DEV.0A6E.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 305M"
- NVIDIA_DEV.0A75.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce 310M"
- NVIDIA_DEV.0A29.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M"
- NVIDIA_DEV.0A2B.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M"
- NVIDIA_DEV.0CAF.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M"
- NVIDIA_DEV.0CB0.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTS 350M"
- NVIDIA_DEV.0CB1.01 = "NVIDIA GeForce GTS 360M"

This is for one desktop and 7 notebook video cards.

 

oh my...slap any of those with an i7!

 

Oh... Seems any high end card would be delayed... e.g. GTX 360, GTX 380. At least, not released at same time.

 

Yes, the GTX may come later but if the card is well designed the 360 GTS might be 25% more powerful than the current GTX280M.

 

i hope the NVIDIA GeForce GTS 360M will work with the M17x ?
odd thing is the M17x is not that old,
i wonder what the spec will be for this card ?

 

@ a_beast33

Hold on... Having this in the inf file does not mean you will see the cards in PC next month. It could be 6 months before anything comes out.

 

in a way thats good but id take them now lol

 

Its like what happened with 8x00m series - it took them more than 6 month to release 8800m GTX, after the first waves of 8600m. Not to mention, the price and avaibility initially will leave much to be desired.

 

Yeah, there is also a GTX 285M in there, it will probably be just an OC'ed version of the current 280M, but I'm sure we will see some of these cards next month, and the others maybe in January.

 

I would assume we are going to see some updated versions of the GTX280M just so they can try to keep up with ATI when they come out with the 4870 though we've been waiting for those cards for a while now...

Nvidia might still keep the lead if ATI does not come out with the 4870 soon.

 

Umm... the 4870 is already out unless I missed something... The 4870x2 performs slightly under 280Mx2 in most applications.

 

no there is no 4870 out

 

The 4870x2 your reffering to is really a 4850 since it used DDR3 and was clocked more in line with a 4850 .

Now strangely enough an ATI partner made a 4850 with DDR5 but still called it a 4850 so things are mighty confusing on the ATI front .

Its one of those things that arent worth arguing over because everyone has there own take on it but in the end Asus made the card so i think thats what really made people say its a 4850 IMHO. Had ATI made the cards for Asus it may have had a different spin .

 

The 4870 is out because ATI are the guys who get to decide what a card is called, not us.

Just because it doesnt match up to its desktop namesake, or our expectations of what it 'should' be, doesnt mean we can pretend it is called something else. All that will do is further confuse matters

In that case, there is no GTX260M or 280M, they have not been released yet either.

 

no they shouldn't

but they are 4850's not 4870's 4870's had ddr5 per ATI

 

@V_C

Moo is actually right. The mobile 4870 defined by specs from ATI is not out yet. Unfortunately for ATI I am a bit more optimistic on the possibilities of GTX285M on the M17X in a very near future or even GT300M in the first quarter of 2010 which would totally kill the 4870 (or most likely).

And yes Moo, I am aware you believe we won't see a GT300M in an M17X (Or a refreshed version of it) before next summer.

 

no i think Nvidia will have a new card out by December

ATI has a butt load coming out by the end of the year .....

 

You must be one of those people who believes that the 280M is really a 280. lol

Marketing, big-guy. All marketing

 

I thought ATI was releasing new cards tomorrow.

 

Im excited to see and hear about the new DX11 ATI cards . i may snag one for my desktop since i cant get ahold of the 4850s for my M17 . Gives me something to do .

 

damit....then I may have to get these new cards and reset the GPU record....lol

 

Hopefully when they announce the cards they will actually be for sale vs coming soon etc . Currently only one game on the market supports DX11 and thats DIRT 2 but it will be interesting to see first hand and ill probably grab that game just for a tech demo when the cards hit.

 

I don't see them being available right away.

Nvidia released GT200 core mobile cards months ago and only a few laptops have them.

I hope I am wrong but I am not holding my breath

 

actually those are G92b core GT200 name haha

I doubt we will ever see GT200 based mobile chips as they are just too power hungry. The 40nm parts being made now are a new architecture all together and appear to have awesome performance as well as LOW power usage

 

Read the first 2 paragraphs, scook




Apologies are currently being accepted and will be processed in order of receipt.

 

It is a newer refinement of the desktop GT200, not the same thing

You can tell since it is 96 shaders.....not 192/216/240 like all the GT200 based desktop chips, as well as the GDDR5 (which has to be built into the architecture, you cannot just put any memory into a GPU - it has to be designed for it). The desktop GT200 uses GDDR3 and nothing else

So although the shader cores are probably designed the same as the GT200 (desktop) the GPU as a whole is not

Apology accepted

 

Just because they cut shaders and downclocked it doesn't mean it isn't the GT200 core (GT215 core, to be exact).

This is not a g92b core at all.

Not sure I understand where your coming from but, meh

 

Great more confusion. Just what people need. I hate processor and GPU naming conventions!

 

Quoted from notebookcheck

"The core of the GTS260M is internally called GT215 and according to Nvidia based on the current high-end desktop architecture (GTX 200 series). Furthermore, Nvidia has improved the micro-architecture for further power saving and performance increases. Therefore, the performance per shader unit of the GeForce card should be slightly better compared to the previous generation."

 

no no no

I was saying that the GTX 260m and GTX 280m are the G92b cores but have the GTX ---m names

And regarding the new parts (like the GTS 260m), with a laundry list of changes like that, how can it be considered the same core....that is like calling the GT200 a G80 since they had the same architecture ideas

 

I also forgot to mention that all g92 parts are not DX10.1 or DX11 capable. That is another way to tell as well.

EDIT: now you are just confusing me, scook LOL

EDIT EDIT: I see what your talking about now. You thought I was originally referring to the 260/280M. Nah, I was talking about the 40nm mid-range cards that were released a couple of months ago but have yet to be used outside of a few laptops.

 

hehe

The addition of DX10.1 is yet another difference between the GT200 and GT215....supporting my claims that it is a newer and different architecture

 

Well, it is a refinement/revision of the GT200's. lol

 

I am just waiting for phinagle to poke his head in here.......

 

I am just arguing, that as many changes as they are implementing, and considering the importance of some of these changes, at what point do you call it a new core?!

That is like calling a Nascar Stock Car a Chevy Monte Carlo when they are completely different animals as we all know

 

I have a dumb question that I am sure has been answered at some point.

Why is it that new GPUs from Nvidia do not support DX10.1? I remember back in the day cards would support all versions of DX regardless of when they were made, if I'm not mistaken. So why is that architecture hinders older/semi new GPUs?

I think my question might be a bit more complex than that, but my brain is tired tonight, if I think of a better way to state I will try again.

 

You must be one of those people who doesnt read a post before replying. lol
I clearly compared the situation to the 280M.

 

Why? You need someone else to remind people that with Nvidia these are likely just renames of the 40-nm mobile cards recently released (maybe with added DX11 support) and not actually new G300 tech?

Would explain why the GPUs only go up to GTS 360M and there's no GTX 280M equivalent listed.

Also there's really only 6 new mobile cards listed not 7. The GT 330M is listed twice. My guess is one of them is what you'll get when you combine a G 200M IGP with a GT 210M/GT 310M discrete card using GeForce Boost

 

I do read posts and was correct in referring to the points above....

 

Okay Sleepy, now go down one more line in the post you quoted. Then give yourself a facepalm.

 

In that case, there really isn't a 260/280. Facepalm away! lol

If you want to believe that the 260 and 280M's are really just that, then by all means do so.

 

You keep telling me I think a GTX260M/280M are GT200-based, yet its clear from my post that I don't. You are just trolling now mate, or maybe English isn't your native language. Either way, im done arguing with a brick wall

 

I know I came into this thread really late, but man, this was by far really educating as far as the new mobile graphic cards go, and entertaining at the debate from v_c and sleey0. Although I already knew about all the names given to mobile cards, its cool to see that there is a gt300m series coming out. Now my biggest question (although I believe I may know the answer) is, do you all think that the gt300m series will carry the shader equivalent and near-clock speed of the desktop gt200 cards now? Taking into consideration that the manufacturers from Nvidia said it was extremely challenging to get even the desktop equivalents of the 9xxx series into mobile cards, do you think that the gt3xxm series will even compare to the gt2xx series? If this is a dumb question, please don't reply, as I kind of just scribbled this question down, but thanks in advance for a positive reply.

 

Not like the top end desktop cards.

Nvidia scrubbed their planned high-end GT212 and performance GT214 40-nm chips which were rumored to have 384 and 240 cores respectively...while the 40-nm GPUs that were released all have 96 cores or less.

So what we should expect to see is a mobile GPU with between 96 and 240 cores (112, 128, or if you're really an optimist 192 cores) that probably has a 256-bit bus paired with GDDR3 and GDDR5 (to offer two performance card options).

 

But doesn't the GTX 260m and GTX 280m both consist of 112 and 128 cores as it is? I'm pretty sure they do at the moment unless Nvidia does some re-branding with names as they do in the past and release some other cards with the shader equiv.. I hope in time that they release some monster graphic cards as I'm primarily a laptop enthusiast, but lets see how far it goes. In general, I just need some more power under the hood (hoping for some beastly cards as ArmA2 is kicking this GTX 260m's ).