4850 Xfire Benchmark suite - what you guys after?

yeah but 104C!? I'd be ok with 90C max, 104 is just way too hot imo

 

oh wow i didn't see that max. 104 is to much.... way to much. (1280*800 sucks )

i'll search acouple of places right no for you to see what's up.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...mpareItemList=N82E16834997340,N82E16834997341
highly recommended

edit. i will post it in project freeze

 

104 is quite a lot, but I'd expect its within design tolerances. I'd suspect you might just have a bad layer of paste on that one, probably worth reseating, its easier to get done OK than the CPU imo, and even then Im still running at 94 degrees max.

Just resizing my pictures of the inside of mine atm.

 

ugh..

I'm just hoping that the combination of the nzxt cooler, the sinks, and the as5 paste will take it down to no more than 90C max

I don't think it's a bad paste application, they both looked exactly the same and i spread it on really thin

 

seems like Alienware had good reason to worry about the temps...

 

Given the heat coming off the desktop versions I was kinda expecting them to run hot; similar temps from the 4850s/70s isn't unknown, especially for earlier models. I doubt they'd release these chips if they dont have a tolerance of about 120degrees.

 

Lol. they better have a high heat tolerance. with these mods and the cryo cooler you should be at much more comfortable temps. i just hope your temp heatsinks can do the job for now.

 

The temps are fine really even if they seem hotter then what people are used to . ATI cards just run hot period and like you said they would not have released them if they were not ok. You have to also think that alot of people will run the cards without propping up the machine nor using a cooler or taking any measures to bring down the temps so in there case the cards might hit 110 after hours and hours of gaming on them. They keep all that stuff in mind long before they release the cards to the public.

 

Can´t be right, sound like my old go 7800GTX temps and that card failed. Not any GPU will withstand 100 degrees celsius for a long time.

Check some bios program and see the tolerance and thresholds for throttling.

 

ATI cards are not known for failing though like all the Nvidia cards were . Im more an Nvidia fan then ATI but Nvidia has had some serious issues over the years on many of there notebooks. Tons of the XPS gen2 1710 1730 cards all went bad .

 

Yep I know the XPS 2 had problems but I haven´t heard many 8800m GTX SLI boards fail on the M1730 though. Mine runs fine and have done for a long time now. Sure there is some problems on the XPS thread but not any overwhelming.

But I can say 100 degrees for a GPU doesn´t matter if it´s a notebook or a desktop one is not any good at all and especially not 100+ degrees. What failed on my old go 7800GTX was one of the memory modules.

 

Id agree that 100 is not a good spot to be but again why would they even bothered to release them if they were all going to die ?. They clearly tested the living heck out of them before hand and for as long as it took them to get them out there they knew all along they were going to run hotter then expected . This is just opinion but it seems everyone is seeing similar results with temps and there just hot cards . I know if i get the opportunity to upgrade hot or not ill be running them for sure .

 

they are only rated to 110

anything over 95 and i would be seriously concerned about long term damage

 

Yes they must have been testing them, well we´ll hopefully see if they start to break or not when people have had them for a while. I would personally be very concerned though, compared to these my 8800m GTX SLI runs cool and I am concerned when I see my 8800m GTX SLI hit 85 degrees celsius until the high speed fans kicks in and lowers them to 80 degrees depending if I run Crysis or not of course which definitely stresses the GPU´s.

 

Well mine are hitting 92 degrees max fully loaded and stressed with DMC which is bloody hot as far as it goes, after a bit of TLC, given thats 18 degrees of thermal rating to spare; I'd say providing the majority have temps similar to mine, then they should be fine for the haul.

As mentioned, ATI cards typically run hotter than NVidia counterparts; the same behaviour is seen in the desktop cards; it's relatively normal; and not especially unsurprising as the cores for these 4850s are basically desktop cores anyway. If they were specially cut and modified then yeah, it'd be a bit wierd; but all they've done is applied a lower clock to them, and said...right, these'll work in a laptop with a smaller cooler.

 

Yeah great GPU´s, not much room for overclocking those GPU´s though.

 

don't forget even though in dmc4 you passed 100fps, dmc4 is a stress full game. I believe it should of gotten a burn in test with how bad it is. I hot 98/95 with that game in benchmarking.

demigod is also another gane that will heat up your system components in less then 15 minutes. with both games I almost broke 100c. but I check my temps constantly so I stopped before anything happened.

another that will stress your card out is fear 1. because of the fact it easily just goes over 200fps, it will just keep pushing and pushing and pushing your gpu. my 8600m gs which was stock at 500/1000/400 I believe(it's been a while) was stable at 600(/1500/515 not 100 percent on that I would have to check my benchmarking thread which is over 2 years old) had a big driver failure after playing it for 20 mins. even though for everyrhing else it was fine.

 

Yeap, noticed that too with demigod, getting the highest temps from all the games i played in demi.

 

Welp I oc'd my x9100 to 3.50 and ran 06 and got a score of 15371. Not too shabby

 

hi all hope you can help, i got me two 4850s cards but im unable to get the drivers to work, whats the crack how was this fixed any help would be great!!!

 

how did you get them. my friend is looking into buying one.

 

Download the Mobility Modder, download the 9.8 Catalysts. Read the instructions and run properly. Job done

Be warned you'll get a lot more out of the 4850s if you overclock your CPU or replace it.

 

cheers alex bud +1 if i can got me going, donald bud i ran alienware and just blagged two i told em my cards were playing up and that id spoke to some technical guy before and he said i could get one, but i told the fella i never had my card details then, but i have em now so id like to order two 4850s.

and he sold me em! maybe because i only had 1 3870 and told him it was broke he thought he was conning me because i was willing to buy a new one..

p.s i want to check my temps any ideas as cpuz is no good.

tis ok o got everest.

 

Well, I can't run the Crysis Benchmark, but thanks to the miracles of FRAPs, I can tell you during gameplay of level 'Recovery' second in, my FPS averages 35-40 FPS, with highs of 60 and lows of 25, at 1920x1200 with all settings set to high, DX9. It's really playable.

I'd say that's pretty damned impressive for a laptop; especially given the res Im running
If I was to drop to 1680x1050 or 1440x900, Im pretty sure I could get away with DX10 Very High and be absolutely playable

 

what temps are you getting..... with that everest im getting 74c max whilst playing gta 4 and the shader temp is 68c

 

Haven't checked my averages playing GTA4 as I dont have it. Hit 92 degrees with the DMC4 benchmark but thats pretty much a GPU burn test. Download it and we can compare

 

re5 1920x1200 or what evers the max dx10 im getting 24.5fps =c

also alex do you use or know sum1 who uses that everest?

just so as to get rough idea what all the temps are because i got like 3 temps each for each card.

 

RE5 crashes for me, its a bug with older drivers. They've fixed it with the 9.8s but its not stable yet.

Everest - they're different parts of the core, just look at the hottest for GPU1/2 and use that as your info. After a long run of Crysis, my maximum temp is 100 degrees, but the average is 91.

 

W90 4870's are 550/880
MSI 4850 is 500/850 (BIOS allows OC to 550/900)

On the MSI GT725 (without a cooler), my temps stay around 80 on most games, stressful situations hit 84-85 tops. Overclocked to 550/900, which fortunately my card does without blinking, temps can hit 90, but not much more.

 

Nice do some runs for us!!!!
what you got?
i would like stocked and overclocked please

Edit: run anything you got with a benchmarking tool......

 

OK don...just for you Note i havent got my copper to try out my planned re-heatsinking and copper shims yet.

Am never gonna run these as standard; but heres a slight overclock I tried on the 4850s earlier

 

Nice. your only at 80c. Push it alittle harder.
try 600/850

You know you want to break 11k

 

Nice job Alex! 1000 point increase is awesome.

 

Unfortunately it crashes if I push it much higher; I think the voltage and heat is holding it back at that point, IIRC the desktop cards are pushing about 1.1-1.15vcore, these are only using 1.05v
I tried 625 earlier, just to see if I could hit desktop core speeds, and black screen froze almost instantly lol
Im pretty sure the desktop cards run higher voltage; higher rated RAM etc than these mobility parts, and I've no want to cook my machine .

That said, might try again for a quick run once I've tried the copper shims and copper mods Im planning.

 

Very ooh la la.



Welp I might be able to get a pair of 4850's. A buddy want's a M17 even though he's not a gamer, I'm going to see if he can order his M17 with the 4850's and I'll swap cards when they get here and pay him back since AW hasn't returned my email

 

Hahah, good luck arctic

My stock scores are currently 9845 though, so a good 700 points from effectively 60Mhz on the core is pretty decent

 

Oh btw, atm Im waiting for the 4850 1GB MSI [GT729] cards to come out; that way I can compare BIOS if they're both using Qimonda memory; and providing these cards are, we MIGHT be able to flash with the MSI Bios if they're running slightly higher or higher voltage.

 

That would be cool but what about oc'ing the cpu?

 

can you push your core to 600?

 

Push much further and I get CPU instability, my CPU is only 'good' up to about 3400-3450 with 1.2v, so I leave it with the multiplier clock; if I push much further on the GPUs I get the ATI driver errors/black screens freezes. I think without better cooling and more voltage; Im not going to get much further I start getting core/driver errors when I clock the GPUs to the 570-575 area. I reckon they could go further with more volts, but Im not going to tamper with my GPU bioses just for that.

Still impressive for what it is though

I reckon they could get further; but I'd have to go more extreme than Im wanting to achieve it, if the MSI cards are identical but with higher clocks and voltage; I might be willing to try that however

 

Well guys, Im happy to report that thanks to the new updated 9.8 Hotfix drivers; the RE5 bugs are now completely gone; and as promised here is a new pic. Framerate is now much higher; and in DX10 compared to the previous DX9 also!

I've updated the OP so new readers wont miss it

 

now that is a nice round of benchmarks there!!

great job!

 

Glad you liked it

Hope it answered some of your questions on the 4850m capabilities

 

it sure did.
how those temps holding up?

quad...im sorry for your loss...*sniff* *sniff*...lol

that's messed up..them 4850's in crossfire seem to be screaming in the benchmarks for games

 

Temps are pretty toasty on these cards I'll be honest (although not exceptional M17/whitebook cooling may be causing a fair part of that, one medium heatsink with average to low air flow for 2 warm cards isn't ideal by any means). I've not had a decent chance to test my new replacement cards; but in the long term, 80-100 degrees [load] with about 45-60 [Idle] seems pretty average, that said they're also actually apparently rated to 110 degrees, so ATI obviously expected them to get toasty and tested as such.

These cards arent up there with say a GTX295 or such, but hell, they're up there with 4830 crossfire/4870 1GB/4890/GTX260 desktop setups; and thats pretty respectable power for something I can carry easily under 1 arm, Im definately happy with them, if I have no more reliability issues and have to deal with AW again!

Any laptop that can play Crysis on high in DX9 with 1920x1200 decently, well that makes me a smile...and this laptop makes me smile haha

 

Hey, can any M17 owner with 4850s send me their VBIOSes (both Master and Slave)? It's an easy process that won't affect your cards at all and can be done through GPU-Z. If interested, let me know and I can show you how (if you don't know how to already).

 

Sure have them both, where you want them sent to?
Be aware my mastercard is faulty but its a memory fault so should affect the bios, have another copy you could compare against just incase anyway.

 

well dammn, i should have looked here first... your already on it!.
disreguard that other post in the other thread

 

well just out of thought ive done re5 bench and got a( b )as a rating in comparison.

and can play crysis warhead on gamer ( just finished the game) enuthiastic runs but got jitter every now and again.

 

Install the 9.9s, they fix the Crossfire issue RE5 had . ATI has official mobility drivers now so no need to mod them .These work under vista and Win7 . http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/windows/Pages/radeonmob_win7-64.aspx


Report back when you run the bench .