The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    4850 gpuz bios thing (ongoing problem)

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by kcuk, Jan 1, 2010.

  1. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    hi all i know im going on about these flippin cards but ive been looking do you think its worth flash as i think somethings wrong

    number 1 card picture is the good one i was gonna try and flash as the bios is the same but if you look at the memory i should have 800mhz i got something like 6394mhz and other stuff is odd as well what do you lot think

    p.s thanks for any help.... also if dhc see or mandrake or any others that have 4850s i was wondering if you could give me a copy of you 4850s bios please master and slave :)
    if its possible
     

    Attached Files:

    • 1.gif
      1.gif
      File size:
      19 KB
      Views:
      228
    • 2.gif
      2.gif
      File size:
      19.3 KB
      Views:
      202
  2. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

    Reputations:
    357
    Messages:
    2,346
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    the clock and amount of mem is wrong


    i'd be happy to send you the bios how do we get it out?
     
  3. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    now your asking lol
    its gpu z and theirs a folder on the right side of where the bios is , have a look at the pic you can see small box

    could you get both bud please master and slave :) cheers bud

    if this works im gonna ask mandrake for the 4870 bios :)
     
  4. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    It's actually OK. I'll post the bios in a little bit.

    On a side note I tried duplicating the issue and unfortunately I duplicated it too well. Don't know if this is a common bug or a coincidence. If I don't get it back working by Monday I'm calling AW myself.
     
  5. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Here is the bios for the 4850s. Remove the ".txt".

    I did try reflashing mine and it made no difference.
     

    Attached Files:

  6. granyte

    granyte ATI+AMD -> DAAMIT

    Reputations:
    357
    Messages:
    2,346
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    what have you done to reproduce the issue?
     
  7. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    I reinstalled the OS without the Crossfire cable. I was planning on doing a reinstall anyway but I didn't think it was going to hose it up.
     
  8. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Event viewer is saying "atikmdag CPLIB :: General - Invalid Parameter". Seems to be a generic error. I've tried reinstalling the OS (Vista and Win 7), changing drivers, flashing the cards, reseating the cards and nothing has worked yet.
     
  9. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    ffs i thought so i was reading a few people are getting this problem

    sorry mandrake bud its my fault you did that :(

    thanks for the roms
     
  10. DHC

    DHC Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    43
    Messages:
    436
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    You are having some odd problems lately man :( ...

    Hope you get it sorted then...though it really seems 1 card is borked....
     
  11. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    yep ive tried mostly everything but update the bios for the laptop im running b10, i dont know if ive ballsed up something in that.
     
  12. DHC

    DHC Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    43
    Messages:
    436
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I run B10 also, so it shouldnt be the bios
     
  13. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    mm i know im cluthcing at straws as i cannot see how updating driver has brocken my slave card or my slave card slot.
     
  14. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    dhc what pci bus are your cards in mine are 6 and 3
     
  15. DHC

    DHC Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    43
    Messages:
    436
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Can't say right now i am at work for another 8 hours sadly.
     
  16. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    opps sorry bud
     
  17. DHC

    DHC Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    43
    Messages:
    436
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Not your fault :).

    I am sure Mandrake or someone else with the cards can post their results
     
  18. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Yes, they should all be the same.
     
  19. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    any luck mandrake ....what does your cards look like in gpu z if you got it
     
  20. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    [​IMG]

    Seems a bit goofed up. The Bios I posted was extracted when I first received the machine. I'm going to re-extract and see if the info is really screwed up.
     
  21. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    its weird its saying exact same thing as mine
     
  22. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Makes me think it's a bug then.

    I re-extracted the bios and it looks fine. I'm going to change the clocks slightly to see if it takes.

    Edit: Made no difference. I like the 512 bit bus and 4GB of memory, lol.

    Edit2: I'm starting to think GPUz is screwed up because of the driver not loading. Need to get that working first.
     
  23. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    how good would these cards be then eh!
     
  24. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    right got me stumped
    1 reinstalled win 7
    2 reinstalled vista
    3 installed / delteted/ removed / added all sorts of drivers
    4 even installed new b14 bios to m17

    not sure how this has happend
     
  25. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    I took apart my system, cleaned contacts, removed the crossfire cable again and now it loaded. This is odd.

    [​IMG]
     
  26. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    mmmmm strange do me a favour mandrake can you try to run vantage
     
  27. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    running it now

    Edit: It ran like crap. I'm going to do some more testing.
     
  28. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    just saying as i got it to see both cards working at the beging of this saga but when i tried to run vantage it froze about 1 min into the program and the only thing i could do was reboot.
     
  29. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Well I disabled the slave and it still ran like crap. I then disabled the Master and it BSOD. Something is still wrong obviously.
     
  30. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    running out of things to check
     
  31. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Things got worse on this side. Video is screwed up even outside of Windows. I'm going to pull the slave card now.
     
  32. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Change your power settings to maximize battery life and see if it loads.
     
  33. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    have you got the sponge type heatpads on the memory ?

    i even took that of incase it was messing with the board

    trouble is as soon as i install new driver as this one is code 10 it just goes black screen nothing happens.

    do you want me to change power settings then try and install new driver
     
  34. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Yes. Have you tried pulling the slave card to see how well the Master GPU works?
     
  35. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Nope, mine is FUBAR.

    I'm going to try the 3870s now.
     
  36. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    nope sorry i did pull the cards and i tried the slave card in the master slot but it would not even boot into cmos.

    just tried again with power settings and no joy either

    you want me to try with just master card in and actaully take the slave card out.

    i might put it in the freezer tonight then ( old myths ) lol
     
  37. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    right mandrake i got slave card to work but the master is not playing ball now
    pci 3 is showing as ok but pci 6 is not working now
     
  38. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    I"m convinced my cards are hosed. I'm trying the 3870s now to see if the system is hosed.
     
  39. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30

    lets hope not

    yep pci 3 works now but pci 6 not working ..... im sure pci 6 was my master before and pci 3 was my slave

    its like the whole things gone doollaaaally
     
  40. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    OK, 3870s loaded fine and now I'm running Vanatge. What GPU score is acceptable for the 3870s?
     
  41. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    not sure about 5.5k i think
     
  42. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    I scored 6.7K so I'm assuming the 3870s and the system is fine. I'll do more stress testing later. Now to see if I can exchange the 4850s.
     
  43. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    least lappy is fine its a gpu problem
     
  44. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    4,976
    Messages:
    12,675
    Likes Received:
    65
    Trophy Points:
    466
    Also, lucky I never sold my 3870s.
     
  45. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    lol yea ....
     
  46. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

    Reputations:
    7,383
    Messages:
    8,222
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    231
    would re-flashing the GPU's do any good?
     
  47. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i think mandrake tried this already bud . completly stumped as to why they failed
     
  48. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    so do we think the slave card is nakkerd then
     
  49. DHC

    DHC Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    43
    Messages:
    436
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    How can that happen out of the blue?

    Did you do anything to make it act the way it does?
     
  50. kcuk

    kcuk Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    96
    Messages:
    607
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i was messing with drivers becuase for love no money i couldnt get to 9.12 so i was changing everything :(

    and now ive ballsed summet up but im not sure what
     
 Next page →