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    8800M GTX or 9800M GTX

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by omaryunus, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. omaryunus

    omaryunus Notebook Consultant

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    well you all understand it but what my question is should i wait for the 9800M GTX be released by AW or just go for the 8800M GTX right now? will it make such a big difference getting the 9800M GTX over the 8800M GTX??? i knwo the 9800 is better but by how much (what ive heard is 1/7th better) will that make a big enough difference to see in games such as oblivion , CoD 4 and Crysis? hopefulyl you guys can help me out ( oh and i dont wanna keep waiting forever) do you guys think it will take forever for them to release the 9800M GTX? and well finally the most important WILL they release it :p i know Sager took it out of there system hopefully AW does not do that aswell
     
  2. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    The 9800M GTX will be hotter. It's not yet released. It is better but not groundbreakingly better such as the 8800M GTX vs. Go 7950GTX. Finally, it should cost more (I guess ?)... I would go with the 8800M GTX.... and PhysX support from nVidia has arrived on it as of today (tested myself).
     
  3. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    9800m-gtx vs. 8800m-gtx
    420 gigaflops vs. 360 gigaflops
    112 stream processors vs. 96 stream processors

    14k 3dmark06 vs. 12.5k 3dmark06 (estimate, w/ X9000)

    probably worth it. :D
     
  4. MrDJ

    MrDJ Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    i cant see it ever being released for the m15x otherwise you will need a wrap round cooler with air conditioning to keep it from melting.
     
  5. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    So will be the GTX280M (or whatever it'll be called)... but ya can't wait forever... ;) Not to mention if it's the m15x that you're waiting for with 9800M GTX, it'll be even hotter than the 8800M GTX (I believe)... thus more problems... but I don't doubt AW's capability to take business threatening risks like that (again)..
     
  6. stirfriedsushi

    stirfriedsushi Confuse a Cat LTD

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    yea it's more powerful, but as for cost and heat, i think the 8800 GTX is more worth it money wise. but if you have the cash i would go for the 9800 as well.
     
  7. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    omaryunus has an m17x... and he asked AW, and they're testing the 9800m-gtx in the m17x... so it shouldn't take that long, and be feasible to boot.
     
  8. Ennea

    Ennea wwwwww

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    Good info.
     
  9. omaryunus

    omaryunus Notebook Consultant

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    yea but they were very vague they said it could be next week or a month or two which confused me alot and well the m17x has much better cooling than the m15x as i have seen... oh and will the jump from 8700s to 8800 GTX make a big difference? will it be worth the upgrade?
     
  10. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Now THAT is a totally worthwhile upgrade... almost 2-2.5 times the performance! (that's if you're talking of single 8700M GT vs. single 8800M GTX). The 8700M GT pretty much equals the Go 7950GTX, and the 8800M GTX is far superior to both.
     
  11. Ennea

    Ennea wwwwww

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    Weird, I just tried updated the drivers on my 8800m gtx from Nvidia themselves (selecting GeForceM/Go; GeForce 8M Series; GeForce 8800m GTX; Vista 32-bit; yeah I'm still on 32 bit Vista) but the installer said it couldn't find any relevant drivers. :(
     
  12. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Mind letting me know how you tested it and where? :D
    If over 750$ more justifies 1500 3dmarks ,sure...
    I DON'T BUY THAT.
    The 8800M GTX SLI already runs pretty hot in the m17x, SLI 9800M GTX will make it into a toaster...
     
  13. Ennea

    Ennea wwwwww

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    If it's really a $750 difference, it might not be worth it just yet. Unless of course, you have the cash to throw around.

    Btw, anyone else having trouble updating to the latest August 5th 8800m gtx driver?
     
  14. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    In my secret lab :D
    But seriously... considering Clevo is not including it in the M860TU as opposed to the 9800M GT, it's clearly not marginally but probably unacceptably hotter... and (obviously), the same would go for the M15X..
     
  15. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    uh... using dates might not be the best method of referring to drivers... care to tell us the version of the driver you're referring to?
     
  16. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    What I meant was what games and could you tell a difference, and if so, where and how ?
     
  17. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    What games ? :confused: lol I feel lost.. :p
     
  18. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    eleron, "tested myself" refers only to PhysX on the GPU... :D
     
  19. Prasad

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    Ohh that... well yes ofcourse it does! :D
     
  20. omaryunus

    omaryunus Notebook Consultant

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    aright so i guess 8800M GTX it is huh? well i bought my m17x and since that time i had my graduation party and well visited a few family members and pretty much made enough for the 8800m GTX upgrade :D i just wanted to know if it was worth waiting for the 9800M GTX i guess it isnt well ill be calling AW pretty soon to make the order :D
     
  21. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I know , so how could you tell the difference if it works OR NOT ?
     
  22. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    nVidia PhysX properties (Geforce PhysX option no longer grayed out), the 3DMark Vantage Physics test (score jumped from 7 OPS to 75 OPS :eek:), Unreal Tournament 3 PhysX maps work MUCH faster, etc.
     
  23. Ennea

    Ennea wwwwww

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    For now, it only says the 8700 is compatible with the update. Go 8800, go~
     
  24. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    And which physx maps are those?the extreme physics mod you mean ?
     
  25. Prasad

    Prasad NBR Reviewer 1337 NBR Reviewer

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    Yes, the two CTF maps - Lighthouse and Tornado.

    EDIT: Unfortunately, AGEIA PhysX only features in certain games don't work. :( Heard of Crazy Machines II ? Well, the AGEIA PhysX only levels don't work... guess they're particularly looking for the AGEIA PhysX PPU card, even though PhysX as such works... That would mean the bonus PhysX level in GRAW2 wouldn't work either, among others...
     
  26. eleron911

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    Well, I have a PPU also...might as well try that also :D
     
  27. omaryunus

    omaryunus Notebook Consultant

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    well just talked to AW and well the 8800 are backordered they come in at the end of every week so hopefully if not this week then next i guess... and i got a Blu ray player :D because i wanna be able to play batman begins and other blu rays on my laptop :D thanks for all your help Prasad and EVERYONE else REP+ to all that helps :D
     
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    Glad to have helped. :D
     
  29. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    Try downloading the modded inf. file from laptopvideo2go.com then copy this file and overwrite it into the nvidia driver. It should install.