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    99c on 8xAnti Aliasing,V-Sync on Ultra High Graphics, Mirrors Edge (is that normal)

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by shaknbakenyc, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. shaknbakenyc

    shaknbakenyc Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey wussup guys I was just wondering...I played Mirrors Edge on my M15x with Ultra High graphics, 8xAA, 1400x900 Resolution, and maybe for around 40min I was wondering if its normal that my video card (8800) was 99 degrees... I dont think its normal to be that hot I mean thats really not good for a computer chip... Nothing I can do beside getting a annoying loud notebook cooler that only reduces the graphics card by 3 degrees?

    Wow that sounds so nerdy...
     
  2. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    err... 99°C is far too hot for your 8800m-gtx. the "safe maximum" is around 90-92°C.

    on a side note, how were your fps?
     
  3. shaknbakenyc

    shaknbakenyc Notebook Evangelist

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    I dont have any programs that tell me the amount but it was running excellent... so this kinda sucks I feel like its limiting the amount of power the laptop has, like I mean it can run it but your card gets so hot that you have to limit gameplay or lower graphics...
     
  4. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    dude your settings are waaaay over the top... i can't quite see how you call 8xAA and ultra high graphics "limiting"...
     
  5. shaknbakenyc

    shaknbakenyc Notebook Evangelist

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    lol its not the best so that is "limited" in my opinion...
     
  6. dwend

    dwend Notebook Evangelist

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    try turning V-sync off. If it trying to produce 60 FPS when it can only get 45~50FPS might cause a problem.
    Just try it and see if it helps.
    Also lower your AA to about 4X you can't see the difference unless things are still.
     
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    Mystik Notebook Deity

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    I hate gaming with Vsync off.... the tearing really annoys me.
     
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    rapion125 Notebook Evangelist

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    What tearing? I never notice any tearing in any of my games even at like 100 FPS.
     
  9. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    what's "tearing"?
     
  10. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    wow does it
     
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    cha Notebook Deity

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    "Tearing" is when you see little distortions in graphics, especially in scenes involving lots of movements. I have personally experienced this is Dead Space.

    With V Sync turned off, I get to see some distorted graphics/lines during scenes with explosions and lights flickering. With V Sync turned on through Nvidia Control Panel, all the problems went away :)
     
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    V-sync has to do with a frame being rendered ONLY with each vertical blank of your LCD. With the V-sync off, frames are rendered whenever. The tearing effect is from two separate frames being rendered during a vertical blank. That being said, you can be running 100fps or 10, it makes no difference. Even if you've got a 60hz LCD and are running at exactly 60fps, the tearing will still occur. Since it's more apparent in some games than in others, it's up to the user to decide if they want to use the resources or not.
     
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    jah2323 Notebook Consultant

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    the 8800gtx should be able to handle those settings of the OP. ESPECIALLY with his 1440x900 resolution.
     
  14. shaknbakenyc

    shaknbakenyc Notebook Evangelist

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    It can handle it for sure, but that doesnt mean it can also not burn... The video card is sooo hot when I have those settings... I wish there were small/sleek notebook coolers but then are all bulky and loud...
     
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    shaknbakenyc Notebook Evangelist

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    BTW how is 88 Degrees if I play with that temperature for an hour or two? Is that normal?
     
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    Mortemia Notebook Geek

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    Oh man, I hate the idea of turning down graphics or else risk frying your laptop.
     
  17. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    i find it funny that people ask why it happens when the obvious is at hand.
    if your going to push the gpu to the max regardless of screen size, it will produce significant heat compared to someone that downgrades a few settings.
    akin to a car. if you constantly run your vehicle at 100mph compared to someon running at 75mph, your engine will produce more heat.
    you said you are in the older BIOS...the updated BIOS was issued to help fix and redunce the heat a bit by having the fans run more. If you are concerned, update BIOS again. if not, put limitations on your grpahics needs and let the card relax and not work so hard.
    simple solutions really.
     
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    Stone825 Notebook Virtuoso

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    @Ryujin - You purchase an AW computer to be able to play games like that at the maximum settings possible without the computer dying. There is absolutely no reason you should have to turn down the graphics at all. Now if this was something like a Macbook Pro or something that argument could be used (those things get HOT on your lap, especially while gaming).

    @Shake - 88C is fine for your GPU, that is a great temp after an hour or two of playing. As long as you don't go above 92C you're fine in my opinion.
     
  19. ryujin

    ryujin 2B or not 2B

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    @ stone: i know this. but you dont purchase a lambo and expect it to last if you constantly push the limits. everything has a breaking point regardless of how 'high end' it is.
    i understand that people purchase an AW to play at max settings, but you could do that with any PC you purchase.

    i simply pointed out options for shake since he seems to be confused as to why it is heating up.

    and while there are others here that are more keen to what temps are good and bad, i can say that i have never owned a laptop that has not produced some sort of heat.

    for him to be set at ultra high it deems that the temps would rise with use. common sense and science can answer that.

    but i digress :)
     
  20. E-wrecked

    E-wrecked BANNED

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    Well put ryu
     
  21. shaknbakenyc

    shaknbakenyc Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea I just got a cooler I guess that should help...
     
  22. Stone825

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    Man you're just getting pushed around by other members of the forum. Cars and Laptops are no where near the same as one another. You bought a laptop to play games on max settings. I know plenty of other people who run their computer hard without any problems at all. You really shouldn't have to buy a cooler in order to play games the way you want to play them.

    Call up the Roswell crew and let them know you are having these problems. If they can't come up with a good way to fix the issue, have them send out a tech WITH a tube of Artic Silver 5. That way he can apply it properly and it should lower your temps a fair amount. If they have a coolant that settles better than AS5 have them use that instead as the cure time for AS5 is a few days.

    Anyways don't listen to members here that just tell you to deal with it. Just PM me or something and I'll try to work out a way to actually take care of the situation. The first thing that I'd reccomend is to call the Roswell crew to start. None of us are certified so the last thing you should be doing is taking advice from people who say 99C is just what is going to happen if you push it that hard.

    That may be the case, it may not be the case, but neither Ryujin or I know the truth so my advice is to call AW.
     
  23. dwend

    dwend Notebook Evangelist

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    It depends if it is a software problem or hardware. If it is only happening in mirrors edge, and any other game it is the normal 88 to 80 cycles then it shows that there is a problem with the game not the hardware.
    So, I ask the question is it only happing in mirrors edge or all the games?
    Also what are the fps with out V-sync on?
     
  24. Kevin

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    8x AA is really unnecessary in any modern game. Do you really see enough of a difference between 2x and 8x to justify the huge hit in performance? Doubtful.