After a standby/shutdown sometimes the display will not "wake up" / turn on...

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After a standby or a shutdown sometimes the display will not "wake up" / turn on.

Referring from other posts on the topic that I and several have written about; In the thread
Windows 10 + NVIDIA WHQL Drivers are Killing Alienware (and now maybe Clevo) LCD Panels ***
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...levo-lcd-panels.779449/page-113#post-10078915

Now happens this nonsense with black screen often (nearly every day I have to start up pc 1-2 times extra to log into Windows 10). Is this a bug in Windows?
I've found that when I get black screen in the login screen in Windows 10 after boot, then I can enter my password without seeing what the screen displays. Then I come straight into Windows without problem. What is this weird behavior?

 

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it didn't occur when the no nvidia drivers were installed, even getting into the advanced options menu (the one that lets you disable DSE and boot into safe mode) works fine. so it's something to do with the nvidia driver. so do you get black screens with no backlight? if you can get in check the event viewer around the time of the black screen - you should see the nvidia driver repeatedly crashing then recovering over and over tillyou have to force a hard shutdown.

IMHO revert to 8.1 - this was a pain in the ass in preview and i don't see it changing.

 

That is really messed up. Have you tried reinstalling Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 to see if the problem goes away? Look at the scary information posted in the quote below. Running Windows 10 seems to be a bad idea for everyone.

 

it goes away for me when 8.1 is installed so even from that it's not a hardware issue. there's something in 10 + nvidia that's causing it to do this and i haven't touched it in fear that this or at worst LCD failure happens. that would mean 1-2 weeks without a pc.

it might be reading and detecting the GPU compatibility but then i am being way left field about it....though these days even left field can't be ignored.

 

I have, as I said; Programmed my on / off button to shut down Windows... I receive no error message. But I can log in even with the black screen just by entering my password(strange). Either it is Win 10 or Nvidia is the problem. Or is it a combination between these two rubbish mates .. It looks like everything Nvidia touch being only a problem. The same also applies to Win 10.

Edit: I've run a clean installation of this junk. But what help is in that? Same ****... If I had money to a Win 7 Pro or Ultimate license so I had bought now. But a full license cost over $ 230

 

if you go to 8.1 i guarantee that it will go away. i haven't had any win 10 installed for more than 2-3 days and i think i am better off just staying with 8.1. sure you'll miss some features but for the most part i am not missing them.

 

Is not particularly tempted to use Win 8.1. Same rubbish as Windows 10. But it looks like Win 10 is worst in everything . It tempts with Win 7 Pro or Ultimate but I have spent too much money now to legitimatize a purchase. + $ 230 is a lot of money now . After a month with vacation for 4 overseas + fixing of automobile and purchase of dogs. Has spent over $ 20,000 already on this.

 

i'm sure there's a cheapo key somewhere on the web...and i mean like $30CAD cheap

 

Want a full Win7 Pro or Ultimate license. Here in Norway is one such license to costly .

 

This is what I did. I will return on 10 surely, but only when this display mess will be fixed. BTW with 8.1 this problem has gone.

 

Everything needs to be fixed in Win 10 before this the garbage being ok.. It's not just one thing. The performance must be improved, spying must be dismissed, Windows update to be changed completely +++. In short there is a lot that needs to be changed in this junk before this is usable..

 

It's a windows 10 issue. I have a dell XPS 730X and I blindly type my password to log in since the cursor makes the " I " when hovering over the login screen. It stays black on the log screen. I do had to restart a few times before i get into windows 10 itself. So it's not the hardware issue.

 

This trash needed Microsoft over 2 years to create. They were helped by many testers but that you now can see; Micro$oft did not hear what testers wanted of the new OS. They run their own race.

 

Indeed, a race to the sewers... in an unprecedented display of incompetence and contempt for customers. They are truly a legend in their own minds. I wonder how much personal data and private information they quietly harvested from the hard drives of Windows 10 "Insiders" that graciously donated their precious time to developing what may ultimately turn out to be the crappiest version of Windows in history? If not the crappiest, certainly the first-ever Windows operating system to corrupt firmware and render hardware unusable. There is a reason it's free, and it's not because they love you and want to give you something nice. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts, and geeks bearing gifs. When something seems too good to be true, that is because it is. When you make deals with the Devil, there's going to be Hell to pay. But, I bet we ain't seen nothing yet. Secrets sins have a way of working their way to the surface at the most inconvenient times imaginable.

 

I believed that Windows Me and 8 was the worst of them all. But not anymore. This was the biggest disappointment I've experienced. Micro$oft (and Alienware) want to be the new Apple now. But they will not get a dime from me. Who want to buy apps from the Windows Store? Perverse... That's a reason why WIN 10 was free. Now everyone knows why .

 

Futurama - the Robot Devil criticizes Fry's writing


Futurama - Our Universe Is Doooomed!

 

@Papusan , did you try turning off the "Fast Start-Up" option in Windows? I know I mentioned it before, and you replied with a screenshot of the screen in your native language asking if this was the option for turning it off - I don't speak your language so I couldn't be sure which of the options was the "Fast Start-Up" option. Did you find that option in the end, did you turn it off, still problems?

 

Have turned of "Fast Start-Up" option in Windows. Still the same problem. Going to uninstall this garbage. I hate this junk... This is some of the worst I have used. This is worse than Me and 8. 8.1 is a better option than this spectacles. Had I learned to use Linux then I had perhaps chosen it. Think really Micro$oft that someone will buy lots of apps or other software from Windows Store? NO THANKS...

 

Care to write that bios first?

Wouldn't be the first time uefi's nvram writes have corrupted a bios. Nvidia driver could do that, for instance.

 

I think that is a good idea @t456. There may be far more going on in the system BIOS/UEFI environment than any of us would like to believe possible. It would be really sweet to have proof to show the world of what manner of evil nonsense they are doing to us in secret, and when our backs are turned. I think there would be enough to get all of the enthusiasts extremely ticked off and belligerent.

 

Can you buy either of these from Norway? I got a 20% off coupon too.
Pro
http://www.itdirectdeals.com/Microsoft-Windows-7-Professional-SP1-64-bit_p_317.html
Ultimate
http://www.itdirectdeals.com/Microsoft-Windows-7-Ultimate-64bit-with-SP1-oem_p_319.html

 

@Papusan

1- Disable Hibernate
cmd (Admin)

Code:

powercfg -h off

2- Post a screenshot of Programs & Features *All Programs* -> Turn Windows features On or OFF -> check .NET Framework 3.5 -> OK

-> reboot

3- BIOS F2 -> Disable Fast Boot & Secure Boot.



Telemetry and other goodies fully disabled...slightly different OS, firewall rules IPs...it takes quite some time to properly configure M$ mess.

 

@j95 I've made a choice... Removed this garbage (Win Crap 10). Installed Win 7 Ultimate .
I had disabled all that trash in Win 10 (also Disable Hibernate / Disable Fast Boot & Secure Boot). I always do that on all my computers. Useless features... But even if I did everything right and deactivated all the garbage from Micro$oft, I still had the same problem with the screen turned black in the login screen after cold boot. But it was possible to enter the password without you saw nothing in the display and logged straight into the windows.

Everything work properly after removing the cancer WIN 10 . NO BLACK SCREEN ANYMORE...

 

Excellent decision. If you're lucky enough to not have your system permanently damaged by it, Windows 10 requires more effort than appropriate and after hours of tweaking and hacks to fix their terrible mess it is still an inferior product compared to W7/8/8.1 after all is said and done. If you have to waste so much time and effort, why bother... just a huge waste of time and effort for nothing.

 

A terrible puzzle to follow constantly what Micro$oft are doing when it comes to Windows 10 and Crapware. Spend more time on avoiding garbage from Microsoft than what you want to use a Os to. I wonder how many crippled computers that are out there after installation of Win 10... Maybe Windows 10 should be called Win 10 ME Home/Pro edition ?

 

It should be called Windoze OS X SE (Satanic Edition).

 

Or Windows OS X HE (Horror edition)

 

Before they started adding all the other crud (when they moved from tech preview to inside preview) it was good. It went downhill as they forced updates, added spyware which added overhead, etc. I have benchmarks showing its downward spiral....

 

How about call it for what it is:

Windows 10 Patriot Act III

 

I suspect the Insider Preview was designed to build a small army of Kool-Aid drinkers and set the hook in the jaw before introducing the WHQL malware. If I were a betting man, I would bet that their evil intentions were conceived in a dark office somewhere at the Redmond Gulag long before the launch of the Windows 10 Preview and they just waited until the 11th hour to set the trap in order to catch more of their victims off guard.

 

If you use win 8 or above and any uefi (even if csm), the nsa is with you!!! that doesn't mean don't strive and fight for security, but rather have no illusion about security! Remember how long nsa used heart bleed exploit, or their building "an exact replica of the internet" for "cyber terrorism training exercises!" They are working toward exascale processing to search the data collected. It is reminiscent of Hoover heading the fbi and knowing the dirt on everyone. Overall, I do need a security overhaul, but am unsure how effective it would be if someone wants it bad enough.

Also, did anyone think someone injected a rootkit onto Microsoft servers similar to what Lenovo sent out a year or two ago? If Microsoft says they didn't, how hard would it be to put in an image on their servers?

Edit: instead of thinking m$ is evil, which takes thought, maybe we should go with incompetent, which fits better with history!

 

I give them credit for being both evil and incompetent, although either one by itself is enough to warrant tar and feathers.

Wile E. Coyote viewed himself as being a "super genius" (although his boundless incompetence was apparent to all). Remember how he got all of his gadgets and contraptions from ACME that never worked and always ended up blowing up in his face? Well, Micro$haft = ACME, and Windows 10 Kool-Aid drinkers = Wile E. Coyote.

 

I've got to say I'm quite happy with my Win 10 install, in terms of performance & interface. Thought I should mention this again in the interest of balance - keep hearing repeated bad things about Win 10 so only fair for me to state my views again; had lots of discussions with users on here about privacy concerns, etc with regard to Win 10, so don't need to have those again.

 

There's certainly nothing wrong with you mentioning that here, but this thread is all about the instability problems @Papusan was having with Windows 10 that he successfully resolved by upgrading to Windows 7. Privacy concerns aside, it's unfortunate that not everyone was able to have such a decent and stable experience with the new OS as you have. It would have been really nice if the decision which OS to use could have been limited to aesthetic preferences, and certainly reasonable to expect stability and functionality excellence at minimum. The plethora of problems reflect poorly on Micro$haft as a company and they are inexcusable after a year long Insider Preview practice session as a head start. If getting what you paid for applies here, I suppose that being free eliminates a solid basis for complaining that it didn't work out well for many... easy come, easy go. But, it's hard to not be bitter about hardware damage even though there was no extra charge for the LCD killing service.

It's crazy that we need to issue the same kind of cautionary warning/disclaimer for updating Windows as we would for overclocking, overvolting, modding, etc. Never thought I would see the day that using Micro$haft's latest operating system would be so hazardous. They used to be good at what they do and I used to admire them as a company, but I am pretty sad that I cannot say either of those things any more.

 

Indeed, it is the work of Satan...

Yeah it's been a horror story that cost me £900.... Damm Micro$haft....

Seems like it...

Seems like a typical Paranoid American reaction to the Patriot Act however looks like your totally correct in this case...

HAHAHA so true... You have to admit though, Coyote is absurdly funny lol..

 

I've seen the court cases, freedom of information act requests, etc. stemming from the patriot act I and II and other subsequent acts of congress (the effects of which have caused the destruction of due process, warrantless wiretapping, the use of stingrays (a cell phone tower spoofing device that prevents your phone from connecting to other towers and can allow for warrantless gathering of information sent or received and sometimes allow remote access to data on your phone), the allowance of gathering of any transient data routed across our national borders, etc) to say this is paranoia. When you see the court cases, the tribunals, etc. it is hard to go back to a world in which you think privacy truly exists. Not only that, the adoption of policing systems similar to those used in Camden, NJ in New York city, Chicago, etc. (Similar to the filming and constant monitoring found in London, England without the restraints and training their police force has, nor its oversight) leads closer to the thought of moving towards a society such as that found in the book 1984. It is not paranoia when government cases open to the public say as much and are interpreted in ways the legislation never suggested. Just saying...

 

Got a first edition. Thought: ' Hey, we're almost there, better get a memento before it's too late!'.

Not paranoia, per se, that was always there. Only, it's technological possibilities that simply weren't available before. The difficulty is this; how to prevent tools from being used?

 

I do agree. Finding people willing to wield power that do not wish to exert power is the difficulty.