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    Alienware Area 51m 4k 120hz display Upgrade!!

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by trikolpona, Apr 6, 2020.

  1. trikolpona

    trikolpona Notebook Guru

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    Yes this will work fine. Not sure about the gsync though.
     
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  2. technyne

    technyne Notebook Enthusiast

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    You can find them on ebay
     
  3. technyne

    technyne Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes but it looks like they are only offering 4k 60hz so if you can get your hands on a 120hz screen to be ready and don't order anything but the cheapest non 60hz screen. Makes me wonder if there cooling system will be swappable and be a bit better? Kinda hard to cool this 9900ks at 4.8ghz all core, not looking for more speed as it's already at the watt limit but damn 90c is hot.
     
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    dydog Newbie

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    Hello to everybody. This is my first post on this forum, despite I have been reading it for a long time.
    I am from Italy and really struggling to find a B173ZAN03.3. It looks like they are out of stock from any reseller.
    Chinese resellers publish their offers, but when you place the order, they contact you to say to cancel the order or to propose lower specs monitors.
    This has happend to me both on Aliexpress and Ebay from a reseller which claims to have a stock, but then offer you to ship another 60 Hz model at the same price.

    So beware!! Contact the reseller BEFORE placing the order, but be sure that you won't find it available from China now.

    And finally, please, any kind user from this forum who should know of an available stock, be so kind to inform the forum here.

    PS - do you know the AUO part numbers of 4K 60Hz monitors that are compatible with the A51-M? I'm considering to give up on the 120Hz.
     
  5. technyne

    technyne Notebook Enthusiast

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    It's very difficult to find the screen period, don't just buy a 3.1 because you can't find a 3.3. took me a few months.
     
  6. dydog

    dydog Newbie

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    I have spotted a few sites mentioning the B173ZAN05.0 display. Does anyone know anything about it?
    Is it maybe the anticipated miniled version of the 4K 120Hz display?
     
  7. Rengsey R. H. Jr.

    Rengsey R. H. Jr. I Never Slept

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    ebay
     
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    dydog Newbie

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    On Ebay it appeared for a very limited time and then was sold.
    The seller ddidn't put any information on its specs, except that it is 4K 120Hz.

    What I meant with my post was asking if anybody ever heard about it and knows its specs.

    I was wondering if it's the miniled version of the B173ZAN03.3.
     
  9. dydog

    dydog Newbie

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    I am now sure that the B173ZAN05.0 is the miniLED version of the B173ZAN03.3. An user in the forum owns it.
    I just need to understand if the thickness is compatible with our A51M.
     
  10. technyne

    technyne Notebook Enthusiast

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    i would love to see pictures of the sticker, if its the same type infinity edge then yes it will work, doesn't even need to be 17.3'' but that's preferred probably by all. as long as it's a 40 pin eDP it will work in our computer, unless they revise pinout and i don't think that will happen
     
  11. dydog

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    I have to partially withdraw my hopes. The owner replied to me that 'it’s a 4K 60hz panel, not 120hz like the 03.3. Thickness is similar to the 03.3, the port is on the bottom middle'.
    I was hoping it could be 120Hz.
    As for the pictures, you can see them here, post on the top:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-clevo-x170sm-g-owners-lounge.831618/page-84
     
  12. trikolpona

    trikolpona Notebook Guru

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    As far as i know B173ZAN05.0 will support AW A51m. I cant find the display anywhere. but this is my next target. I will defiantly post pictures once i have it. So finger crossed!!
     
  13. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Hey, would you mind sharing the desktop wallpaper you have showing in the OP? It's dope.
     
  14. trikolpona

    trikolpona Notebook Guru

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    Its Wallpaper engine in steam. Its actually live wallpaper. Really nice in real life. Search Razer Vortex in wallpaper engine.
     
  15. dydog

    dydog Newbie

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    Did you see the link I posted above? According to the user in this forum who owns the panel, it is miniLed yes, but not 120Hz. So I guess your B173ZAN03.3 is still far better
     
  16. trikolpona

    trikolpona Notebook Guru

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    Mini LED is totally different technology. It is the future for me. As much as i researched B173ZAN05.0 is 144hz panel but even if its not, mini led have far more better quality then any backlit display. So i am willing to take the risk and try it. will post about my experience.
     
  17. dydog

    dydog Newbie

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    I have spotted the same specifications on the few sites which report about the B173ZAN05.0, but when I contacted the owner, he told me it's 60Hz. No reason to think he's a liar, he posted the pictures.
    Talking about image quality, you are right, but most of the people here owning the A51-M look for fast screen for gaming.
    Anyway, I will search for more info before buying.
    Btw, a few days ago I contacted the seller in this link and he told me he had in stock:

    https://it.aliexpress.com/item/4001...earchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
     
  18. trikolpona

    trikolpona Notebook Guru

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    Speaking of 60 Hz panels:

    I ordered a B156ZAN05.0 from ebay seller neidersch* and got a B156ZAN03.2 with the stickers peeled off and replaced with a B156ZAN05.0 sticker.

    I will say though the B156ZAN03.2 is still much better than my Sharp and Samsung screens. Astounding color, contrast, and brightness, but not 120 Hz. Connector matches Samsung connector.

    So yeah, who knows how many of these 120 Hz panels really exist and how many are scams.
     
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  21. technyne

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    B156 is the wrong screen for this thread. 3.3 exist.
     
  22. Khenglish

    Khenglish Notebook Deity

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    It's the 15.6" version of the same screen from the same manufacturer. I'm just saying legitimately sourcing these screens is difficult.
     
  23. ssj92

    ssj92 Neutron Star

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    I would love to get the Mini LED display into my Area 51m
     
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    you're the man¡

    i have the MSI GT73VR 7RF with a 4k AUO B173ZAN01. 1 display 40edp and 17'3 inches, guy im looking to make the replacement like your but im not sure how i will hold the screen 3.3 that you put, dosn't have any holders to put the screws right?

    the B173ZAN01. 1 has 4 holders for screws 2 on the top and two on the low, other than that do you think that the B173ZAN01. 1 has 40edp 0.4 pitch or 0.5 pitch?, i need to check this info

    thx man¡
     
  25. technyne

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    It will work but I'm not sure about fitment, then screen in this thread does not have screw downs but is ment to be glued or taped down.
     
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    why you are sure that it will work?, my screen 40edp has 0.5 pitch, wich is the mod i need to fix this?

    thanks¡
     
  27. SUADE8880

    SUADE8880 Notebook Evangelist

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    Screen swapping is never guaranty to work unless the manufacturer is offering as an option. Otherwise, it’s taking a chance but more often than not that it does work.

    The B173ZAN03.3 has the same .5mm pitch connector however it has slim bezels with no mounting brackets. The challenge is mounting it properly against the lid with double sided adhesive to line up with the laptop bezels. Also the display is also thinner than the B173ZAN03.1 so it may sit lower than the laptop bezels. Some modifications are involved if you want to try it.
     
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    I noticed that the b173zan03.3 panel works at 60hz and no longer 120hz with the new nvidia driver! does anyone have the same problem?
     
  30. Effiklinger689

    Effiklinger689 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys, this is a really great forum. Thanks for that! Great informations out here.
    I still haven't pulled the trigger to buy the Area 51m r2. For the simple fact that the factory screen-options are really bad; and I mean really bad. Considering it costs more than an arm and a leg.

    I've wanted to buy an Area 51m R2 for about a year now and I am faced with the problem of which display to buy.

    There is the 300Hz WITHOUT G-SYNC + TOBII + RGB 100% (better colors) This could be the right one since I occasionally do some editing. But on the other hand I want G-Sync for best performance. (I don't really care for FPS. I care for performance)
    I've read that G-Sync laptops are connected directly to the GPU, avoiding IGPU? is that right? Also TOBII would be great (Windows Hello)

    Or

    the 144HZ WITH G-SYNC + NTSC 72% (WORSE COLORS) How do the internals differ from each other? Are the G-Sync-models internally different?
    I've searched all over the internet, but I don't seem to find an adequate answer to my problem. It is a real dilemma for me since I want the best of both worlds.

    The best would be a 4K display with 120HZ + TOBII + G-SYNC (For best performance)

    If I get the option with factory G-Sync monitor, will the B173ZAN03.3 also have G-Sync?

    Are NON-GSYNC AND G-SYNC monitors wired differently?

    Does it matter which model I choose NOW? Suppose I want to have a 4K 120HZ with G-SYNC in the future?

    Thanks, you're the best :)
     
  31. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I just ordered the B173ZAN03.3 "type 1" with the off center connector as well as a .4mm to .5mm eDP 40-pin adapter. Going to try to swap this into my Area-51m R2 that currently has the dell 1080p 300 Hz screen ( B173HAN05.1 I think).

    I will keep you all posted on how it goes.
     
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    Good luck, but I think you'll have an issue with using an adapter. Connectors tend to degrade signal quality, and you have twice as many with an adapter. If the cable can't handle it at all you'll get a black screen with just the backlight on. If it's close you'll get a partial unstable image.
     
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    bros how does this screen https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/17-3-inch-LCD-panel-HK173VB_1600382231111.html compare to the auo miniled? its 4k 120hz, has a lower response and higher contrast, though not a single manufacturer is using it (as of now anyway). colour wise i dont think its as good as the auo (no hdr1000, and it doesnt mention the srgb ntsc etc), probably geared more towards gamers and less for professionals

    ive got a spare display assembly lying around so im probably gonna buy this and see.
     
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    ok, theyre selling it for 900 dollars at the moment, because of the chip shortage. they said when they manage to source it cheaper theyll let me know.
     
  35. cookinwitdiesel

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    I would be more concerned if it was an analog system but as it is all digital, the odds of it causing issues are minimal. Space for the adapter is a more likely challenge. One way or another, I will update you all here.
     
  36. Effiklinger689

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    hi guys,

    I bought an Area 51m r2 after a very long consideration. The device has a 144Hz display with G-Sync. I want a 4K display with at least 120Hz + G-Sync + very good colors (AdobeRGB) What options do I have? What do I have to pay attention to when buying a possible display? If I replace the display with a G-Sync compatible model, will it actually support G-sync?

    I don't care about fps. The reason why I want g-sync is because I don't want the iGPU to interfere with the Nvidia graphics card...
     
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    is your screen 40 pin? my r1 has same display as yours, and is 40 pin.
    as for panel recommendations, the best panels at the moment are mini led ones. but theres a bit of a trade off. if you want better colours, the auo one is the best one, but its 60 hz. theres a new innolux one, which is miniled 4k 120hz, colours arent as good as the auo but still decent, and no gsync.
    have a look on panelook.com to choose one
     
  38. Effiklinger689

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    why does g-sync not work on aftermarket model?
     
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    its not that it doesnt work on aftermarket screens, rather the screens have to support them.
    i havent come across any nice looking g sync compatible 4k screens, though they might be some if you look deep enough on panelook
     
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    g sync is part of the screen, nothing to do with the laptop/pc. so if the display has g sync it will work, if the display doesnt then it wont work
     
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    After chatting with the seller on AliExpress, it seems their listing was NOT straight forward (who would have guessed!) and the " type 1" with the off center connector is actually a 60 Hz screen. They are going to send me a B173ZAN06.1 instead. I think this will work as the UHD screen from Dell for the Area-51m R2 (B173ZAN03.2) is also eDP 1.4 although my OEM FHD 300 Hz (B173HAN05.1) is eDP 1.3. Again, I will keep you all posted. On the upside, the 6.1 screen is the same .4mm pitch connector as my OEM screen at least. This also appears to be the screen Dell uses in newer 17" models which is something I guess. I am still very annoyed that there is not a 165/144 Hz QHD IPS option in 17.3"

    I found a couple panels that would physically fit but are not AUO (BOE NE173QHM series if anyone wants to experiment) so I did not want to take the chance on it being incompatible. It appears Asus uses this screen some, and maybe MSI.

    I have spent far too much time on panelook.com lately.....
     
  42. anonymous4272

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    havent we all ;)
     
  43. anonymous4272

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    nice seeing you all, meet you on the other side @ laptopforum.net
     
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