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    Alienware M15X First Impressions (Taking Picture/Video Requests)

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Andrewkm, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. tacomenace21

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    there we go milcs another confirmed xtreme.

    @Andrew, Are you undervolting by any chance? cause if you are you have your VID to low.
     
  2. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    It's a shame really... more shameful is that nothing is being done by AW. And if it is... it's taking them too long time.
    How can they keep selling the extreme processors knowing that his issue exists is beyond my comprehension.
     
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    Milcs, hurry up and get your machine, dammit!
     
  4. Andrewkm

    Andrewkm Notebook Guru

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    Nope no undervolting at all.
    Everything is stock.
     
  5. tacomenace21

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    very weird you should have been able to go a little longer than 4 min.
     
  6. Andrewkm

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    Ok Im running Orthos like you said, using SMALL FTTS - Stress CPU and Im taking a screeny every 7 minutes. Ill run it for 20 minutes and report back.
    So far its at 9 minutes no errors.

    Temprature at 92 however.
    I need a laptop cooler pad thingy lol.
    Im really interested in that NZXT Cryo LX
     
  7. Andrewkm

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    Test ran for 20 minutes. No errors, but looks like its downclocking.




    7 Minutes in

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    10 Minutes

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    16 Minutes

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    20 Minutes

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  8. groove75

    groove75 Notebook Evangelist

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    That's a damn shame. Personally, I wonder how many other notebooks with a 2.8ghz extreme processor would also downclock if stressed long enough. At least we have a workaround with the RMclock undervolting solution.

    Are there any sager or m1730 owners out there with a X9000 that could run these tests and contribute their results? I don't know if it's strictly a thermal issue with the m15x or if the chip just runs too damn hot.
     
  9. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    Andrew, that's downclocking alright. At least you don't get that error anymore.
    That's is exactly what happens... CPU temps goes up to 92ºC and when they go 1ºC above, the CPU downclocks. This is the same for every CPU type in the M15x... if the CPUs go beyond 92ºC, they downclock.
    Even if the fan is spinning as fast as it can, the temperatures keep rising. That's poor cooling...

    One thing people should consider as well... why do people think that AW removed the option for Overclocking the extreme processors from the Bios? The same thing with the light pipe initially being disabled. The M15x had problems from the beggining and what kind of solution did AW came up with? "Oh, let's disable it...".
     
  10. groove75

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    Yea, but that's not necessarily unexpected in a 15.4" chassis. I just question whether there's any way to adequately cool the extreme processors in a 15.4" notebook. I'm not entirely convinced it should even be offered as an option. Take the m1730 for instance... There's that thread on NBF about people who were overclocking the processor to 3.2 and 3.4ghz having the exact same downclocking issues and that's in a chassis with much more aggressive and efficient cooling.

    Edit: Actually it was on these forums here and was at 3.4ghz. Not exactly surprising since it was running .6ghz higher than stock clocks but interesting because I'm not aware of any of the same issues overclocking the t7600G processor in the m1710 which I have.
     
  11. MKang25

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    The 5793 with bios oc to 3.2 and GPU OC via bios is stable.
     
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    on 5793, we are aiming for 3.5Ghz, which I am gonna try in next month.
     
  13. Andrewkm

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    I am now running the other test again, that failed the first time after 4 minutes.
    Im 7 minutes in, no fail, CPU Temp 90C... No downclocking so far.
    Will post results and after that pictures and videos of the new m15x.

    EDIT: Temp rose to 92C. Immediately after hitting 93C A downclock occured. It is now downclocking on and off like the previous test.

    EDIT2: Downclocking seemed to stop, 10 mintues in, and temprature is at a steady 91C
     
  14. Andrewkm

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    Ran the "BLEND STRESS CPU AND RAM" Test once again.
    The one I failed the first time for some reason after 4 minutes, here are my results.

    Just Started
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    4 Minutes
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    8 Minutes
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    15 Minutes - End no Errors.
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  15. tacomenace21

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    yep thats the normal for the extreme proc it get way to hot. When did you get yours Andrew?
     
  16. Andrewkm

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    4 couple days ago.
    Its new.
     
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    it doesn't seem to be doing it that bad but its still downclocking
     
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    WOW!! 92. That's sizzling...glad it's downclocking like it's suppose to do so.
     
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    It is downclocking like it used to dhoang... just that the peaks are not that wide. More, people were testing it for one hour... Andrew has the downclocking in 10 minutes.
    This is really a serious issue... I wish people could see that this problem, even if it only affects extreme processors seriously, it's a problem of all of the M15x owners. This is all down to bad cooling system...
     
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    10 min thats pretty good mine takes 8 mins!!
     
  21. milcs

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    :D I think we should start a new thread then... Whose CPU takes the longer to start downclocking. :)

    Oh well... be it 8, be it 10... it's not acceptable. Taco, any news back from them regarding the CPU downclocking?
     
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    Just a question: are you using a cooling pad or no? I think a cooling pad may help, especially a good quality one.
     
  23. milcs

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    A cooling pad is a smart idea, but... as an Alienware representative mentioned (and quite well), the M15x is designed to be working fully well and perfectly on a well ventilated place, standing on a flat desk with no need for extra cooling (obviously this is only their intention, as this is far away from being accomplished).
     
  24. Skidude

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    Haha yeah, it's designed to do that, but in reality it doesn't work that well. It would be cool if someone posted their temps with an M15x on a cooling pad, especially those of you with the X9000.
     
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    Na just the norm "our mobile guys are working on and are close to a solution" but then again this issue has been on going for a long time and they've known about it forever what trips me out is that no AW rep that visits this site will even mention anything about it.

    No I don't use a cooling pad why should I have to? It should work without it but when I do need to push my cpu I just lower the voltage and everything is cool then I change back to normal when I don't do cpu intense stuff.
     
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    Yes... if I was you I would be completely freaking out by now. It's been such a long time since you and newfie reported this consistent problem with the extreme processors and nothing was done. When the 8800GTX was downclocking, they worked on it day and night. Now, because only some users (that happen to be the ones that payed the most for their machines, including the extreme processor) report this problem, they don't really seem to be putting all their effort in it... Wonder why?
    Oh well... lets keep hoping and waiting for the brighter day.
     
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    I think why is because it hasn't gotten any huge press yet.
     
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