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    Alienware M17x Questions

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by SkitZaY, Jun 23, 2009.

  1. SkitZaY

    SkitZaY Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi Guys,

    Potential buyer of the M17x, with a couple of questions in mind.

    First of all, I currently have a desktop and laptop. Laptop is a MSI GX600, nothing special, however my Desktop is a decent one with a Q9550, 4GB RAM, and 4870x2 Crossfire. First question is that of opinion, is it really worth getting the new Alienware 'All Powerful' and replace my current laptop, to satisfy my inner geek to make him squeal like a schoolgirl. The m17x would replace my Gx600's responsbility of on the go LANs. ;)
    Second question, in the event of getting the Alienware, I really would like to get the QX9300, however dell's website quotes $1000 (AUD), as appose to the $500 I can get it off of eBay for. Is it worth Voiding my warranty and getting it off eBay, or should I just stick with a T9600 / T9800? I will mostly be using it for gaming, and will getting the SLi GTX 280m

    Final question, is everyone running Vista? If yes, how's that going for you. And how about Windows 7?

    Cheers guys.

    EDIT: Looking over the dell website, it's showing the T9800 for no additional cost, obviously a glitch but damn I wanna impulse buy this sucker and exploit it.
     
  2. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    Only you can answer that question :p .

    Switching your process doesn't avoid your warranty as long you switch it back when sending it to RMA.

    IMO QX9300 doesn't worth with the actual OC limit...
     
  3. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    STICK WITH THE t9600 !!! the x9300 will not help out much in gaming unless the games you play requires a Quad.

    the t9800 isn't worth the upgrade....since you can OC the t9600 to make it 3 ghz easy


    the M17x will rape your MSI in every way possible

    THEN fart on its face n make it pass out :cool:
     
  4. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Of course you can always buy the X9300, have the basic T9600 in your closet and if you need to send it back in put the T9600 back in... you don't void your warranty unless you send it in with different parts lol... this is what I am doing
     
  5. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    if he is going to buy the Qx9300 why spend extra money on a t9600?


    Butter: can you please keep a Q in front of x9300 ;)
     
  6. SkitZaY

    SkitZaY Notebook Enthusiast

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    Cheers for the reply chaps!

    In regards to why spend extra on T9600, it's actually the standard CPU in Australia.

    I'm thinking I might start with just the T9600, and if I think I need more, I'll buy the QX9300. No point spending the additional 400AUD on the upgrade to T9800.

    So that solves that answer. :D
     
  7. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    exactly ;)

    the t9600 will not bottleneck period with gaming @ high resolution
     
  8. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Id go for a quad in any notebook that can support one. Even a humble Q9000
     
  9. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    i have the 8600, more and more games will come along with quad optimisation, things like crysis (which is quad optimised) and GTA

    Personally i brought a cheap cpu and ordered a qx9300 on ebay
     
  10. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Yea yea, lets hope our Qx9300's are awesome
     
  11. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

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    The qx9300 does crap for crysis or warhead. I owned a P8400 and than all three quads.. an oced qx9300 at 3ghz gave a 1-2fps improvement over the P8400 stock (at around 25-30fps). So talking about crysis being quad optimized? Not really.
     
  12. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    yea vicious proved this in the Asus w90p owners lounge

    Having a Quad does not boost it enough to justify the price. I think its all marketing IMO.
     
  13. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    It isn't quad optimized, its SLI enabled if that's what you are thinking.... the only game I kno of that's Quad optimized is GTAIV
     
  14. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yep, and im not a fan of that one so i never tested it.
     
  15. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Oh GTAIV was a great game! I never finished it though... I'm going to play it again once I get my M17x
     
  16. ViciousXUSMC

    ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer

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    Quad games that I know of...

    GTA4
    DMC4
    FSX
    Supreme Commander

    there are more, but those are the ones I know for sure.

    the thing is that you should not focus on getting a quad just for quad optimised games. It still plays all the dual core only and single core only games just fine.

    But the quad does everything else soo much better, any cpu intensive task or program is going to use the quad. Video rendering, photoshop, bench@home, multi tasking, the list goes on and on.

    Plus you will only see more and more games come out that do use quad. The sad fact of the matter is that I can not think of any game quad supported or not that the quad can not play, but there are a few situations where the dual core can not do what the quad can in those quad optimized games.

    Unless your buying your laptop on a budget (probably not if your interested in a M17X) or your buying it for just now and the games out now and never plan to use your computer for other computer related tasks, the quad core is a better investment and will extend of the life of your computer before its time for an upgrade for a good amount of time.
     
  17. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    most definitely, I don't think I could ever go back to a dual now
     
  18. SkitZaY

    SkitZaY Notebook Enthusiast

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    I wouldn't say I'm buying on a budget, however I don't want to unnecessarily spend money. ;) I suppose by that same logic you could question my need to even buy this laptop, however I need to fill my obsessive geek needs.

    As stated, if I find a Dual Core isn't enough, I will purchase a Qx9300 and mod it in myself later.

    My friend has a contact, so I am currently trying to see if I can get a nice chunk off of the price.
     
  19. sleey0

    sleey0 R.I.P. AW Side Topics

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    Just benched my P8600 @ 3GHz and mandrake said it was close to the X9100 :) (using 3Dmark06).

    Now that is good price-to-performance ratio!
     
  20. BIGX333

    BIGX333 Brazillian Overclocker

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    X9100 needs a voltage that we don't have ATM :(
     
  21. bifnewman

    bifnewman Notebook Evangelist

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    ok butters when you get ur m17x just post like what you have your cpu overclocked to and stuff... then in the gta 4 folder make a file called commandline.txt and edit it with notepad... type in -norestrictions and save it... then make sure ur gta 4 is updated and launch... go into options and put every setting to the max and run benchmark... post the benchmark log here... :cool:
     
  22. SkitZaY

    SkitZaY Notebook Enthusiast

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    I see what Chaz means when he says topics start to get derailed. xD That is all...

    EDIT: bbq (insert other meme here), I have 1 rep.
     
  23. bifnewman

    bifnewman Notebook Evangelist

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    lol sorry just really want that info...
     
  24. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Will do! 10char
     
  25. bifnewman

    bifnewman Notebook Evangelist

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    k thanks....