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    Alienware New Model Speculation Thread

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by BatBoy, Mar 15, 2011.

  1. daniel1112333

    daniel1112333 Notebook Consultant

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    Doesn't work with Canada or US... -.-



    xD Go to Intel's web site, the I5 costs 250$ and the I7 costs 317$... so... more 67$ and you get I7... AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER PROCESORS...!!!!

    but now, I see in Intel's web site that i5 2537M costs 250$ and the i7 2617M costs 289$!!!!!! WT.F!!! only 40$ different!! and at Dell's web site, we have to pay like 200% more cash!!! or even more!!! FOR NOTHING!!! uhh... THEY "STEAL" FROM US EVERY TIME MORE MONEY!!! :S


    I was talking with someone from Dell like 2 hours ago I think, and he told me the m14x has 7 hour battery~
     
  2. thebigalex

    thebigalex Notebook Enthusiast

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    :D Thanks. I think I will take the M14x as I already have a Macbook for long time writing sessions. And you can't play 2 days on a LAN with the M11x. I know that. ;)
     
  3. Mackan

    Mackan Notebook Evangelist

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    Dell always overcharges the CPU upgrades by insane amounts compared to the 1ku prices Intel sets. The price difference between the i5-2537M and the i7-2617M is supposed to be $40. Yet Dell charges $274...
     
  4. Wulfher

    Wulfher Notebook Guru

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    You are right, but the problem is what u buy u have to stick with it as they soldered the CPU und the GPU at the mainboard at least for the m11x.
    So i did go with the i7
     
  5. stevenxowens792

    stevenxowens792 Notebook Virtuoso

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    The m11x r3 with I7 basic is 1239 euro so convert to us dollar and it's over $1700 bucks??? Seriously? I don't think they will be selling many of these..

    Better jump on the Dell xps bandwagon for good deals before they are over.

    xps 17 with SB 2630qm and 555nvidia $1007 (or less) with coupons right now.

    StevenX
     
  6. daniel1112333

    daniel1112333 Notebook Consultant

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    at US its different... I5 basic will cost 1000$.
     
  7. Mackan

    Mackan Notebook Evangelist

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    I am sure the prices are much more reasonable on the Dell U.S site when it's up. And you got deals and coupons. It's everywhere else, including Europe that we pay double or triple the U.S prices. Add 3 years warranty, and it is an insane amount of money you pay for the M11x...
     
  8. vikingrinn

    vikingrinn Notebook Evangelist

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    ...and with the right coupons/deals, there's always the M15x sized M17x R3 for the sweet spot!~ :D
     
  9. Mackan

    Mackan Notebook Evangelist

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    I know, it should be criminal to charge those upgrade prices. But they do this all the time. It's not just CPUs.

    While Dell offers nice and flexible customization options, they take advantage of it themselves and sneak in insane upgrade prices every now and then, that common people have no clue about.
     
  10. Benchmade 42

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    That's the euro version, the m11x r3 in U.S will start cheaper probably around $899 or $999. Just because it starts at 1,239 euro doesn't meant it will be $1,700 starting for m11x r3 base.
     
  11. Netherwind

    Netherwind Notebook Evangelist

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    They have to make money somehow.
     
  12. daniel1112333

    daniel1112333 Notebook Consultant

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    SOMEHOW?? you pay more 200$ of the real price!!
     
  13. Netherwind

    Netherwind Notebook Evangelist

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    And how many people do you think actually buy the upgraded processor? very few people overall will buy an upgraded processor for the price they charge, and they shouldn't, even if it was $40, there's no point.
     
  14. vzachari

    vzachari Notebook Evangelist

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    Agreed

    10 char
     
  15. daniel1112333

    daniel1112333 Notebook Consultant

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    Yes there is.. I7 better... 40$ worth it for a m11x...
     
  16. shenker10

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    i just looked on the alienware site and the only ones on sale right now are:
    m11x
    m11xi7
    m15x



    anyone wanna take a stab at what model wont be for sale soon due to another notebook taking its place? this is exactly what everyone on here thought would happen. m15x is going bubye and the m17xr3 takes its place around the same price and the m18x is going to be the new m17x powerhouse while the m14x takes a seat right in the middle for a midsize powerful notebook and the m11xr3 holds the title of the most powerful 11" gaming notebook on the planet. wow dell is doing some spring cleaning or what? lol
     
  17. HEUR

    HEUR Notebook Consultant

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    Yes. Basic m11x r3 with i7 will cost around 999-1099 dollars.
    M14x with i5 (or basic i7) should cost around 1099 - 1199 dollars...
     
  18. Juanderful

    Juanderful Notebook Consultant

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    Yep, you pretty much hit the nail on the head in terms of Dell's final lineup after they finish updating everything:

    M11xR3
    M14x
    M17xR3
    M18x

    With the elimination of the M15x, there's basically no more "middle ground". It's either you go small or go big.
     
  19. Serephucus

    Serephucus Notebook Deity

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    I'd like to point out to everybody concerned about the M14x's price, that the M17x-R1 started out at $1,799, and €2,100. The only differences being that the Euro R1 had a Q9000 and a 120GB HDD.
     
  20. Netherwind

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    M17x-r3 is 1498.99 GBP, and $1499.99 USD, sooo....
     
  21. Serephucus

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    ^ One scenario each. Hardly proves things either way. Just figured I'd point it out.
     
  22. kraeuchii

    kraeuchii Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's why I want them. I want both 3D and killer performance. I don't know why that is such an issue with them.

    There's always a first.

    Yeah, I thought I saw an HDMI 1.4 output port? I really hope it doesn't have a 3D screen, it'd solve my 485m SLI dilemma.

    I thought the IGP was part of the processor. Just goes to show how much I care.
     
  23. Netherwind

    Netherwind Notebook Evangelist

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    IGP is part of the processor, 3d won't be in the m18x and you can use hdmi 1.4 on both amd and nvidia gpu's.
     
  24. kraeuchii

    kraeuchii Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay, so it is a part of the CPU. Good. The HDMI 1.4 port isn't effecting my decision to get dual 6970's; the supposed 3D screen was, until I found out it isn't an option. Oh, man this thing is going to be a beast. That'd be funny if Alienware shipped it out with a withering rose and told you that if it doesn't find true love before the last petal falls then it'll remain a beast... forever. I'd be plucking the petals off like mad.
     
  25. FXi

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    Thought I'd point out that the M1710 was "introduced" on Apr 19, 2006. I laugh a bit and wonder if they time these things after tax season to give folks something to do with the refunds?

    Anyway, they've used the 19th before as a release date for gaming machines.
     
  26. itcomic

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    HP ? After the downclock-on- purpose to avoid gpu over heat in the gaming Envy line, I have no respect to HP engineers. Seriously ???? Also, 6770m ddr5 has similar performance
    to 555m ddr3 based on vantage score. If they can achieve more than 6 hours of battery life then we have a competitor.
     
  27. DEATHx2

    DEATHx2 Notebook Guru

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    my refund is going towards my new m11x! lol thought the timing was perfect...
     
  28. 5150Joker

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    Even if it's part of the processor it doesn't mean it will be supported. It depends on the chipset implementation. With the PM55, the arrandale IGP could not be used.
     
  29. JCrichton

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    Every smart company does it. ;)

    And rightfully so.
     
  30. JTOverath

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    Does either NVIDIA or AMD support there switching scheme with there dual card (SLI/Crossfore) setups?
     
  31. martinroshak

    martinroshak Notebook Consultant

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    Right now I'm really torn between the m11x r3 and the m14x...

    I love the portability of my r1, but it does have its limitations. Upgrading to an r3 would boost my performance drastically, and I would still have the same small form factor with only slightly less battery life (important to me when I have long days at uni and power points aren't always easily available). On the other hand, the m14x is still portable, has a disc drive (I still use mine a fair bit for ripping music and movies), bigger screen, better performance and overall would be better for being away for extended periods of time (plenty of travelling in the near future for me).

    I think I'll just stop thinking about it until the new financial year...
     
  32. itcomic

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    Are you satisfied with the gaming performance offered by m11x ? If you are, go for r3. There is always better hardware and its an endless to pursue technology - unless you have deep pockets. My personal choice is m14x because I prefer bigger screen.
     
  33. revdiesel

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    Same thing for me. I was initially going to get the m11x R3, but now I'm wondering if I should get the m14x instead, because of the higher resolution and better performance.

    I use a 15" laptop at work right now that has the same resolution as the m11x, and occasionally I find it a little too small, wish it had a higher resolution. So that makes me tend towards the m14x. On the other hand, maybe I would perceive that same resolution differently when sitting in front of an m11x, because it's just a smaller device overall.

    Regarding the performance difference between m11x R3 and m14x: It's hard for me (and probably for everybody, since nobody had their hands on either device yet) to gauge what the difference really is, in terms of "It will play Game X on high settings, Game Y on medium, but Game Z only on low".
    I guess we're all torn between the portability of the m11x and the "future-proofness" in terms of being able to play games with the m14x. :)
     
  35. martinroshak

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    I'm reasonably happy with the performance of my r1, only issue I've run into is the cpu limitation in some games (I'm a batman freak, and the dips in Arkham Asylum annoy me a lot, but that game requires a fairly strong cpu). In all honesty, I play too many games as it is and what I want a laptop for is light but reliable gaming, heavy document drafting work (I'm a writer, so screen size could be an issue here...), photos and a media library. All avenues really point towards an r3, I think the m14x just has the whole 'new laptop on the market' draw, and it's pretty strong... I will know better when the Australian prices are released (and hope they treat me kindly... enough).

    Slightly off topic, but it will determine the extent of my purchasing, but what is an r2 owner's minimum frame rate in Batman: Arkham Asylum if they know it slash can find it out? I'm assuming Arkham City will have similar requirements...
     
  36. redbalrog

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    Is Alienware M11x R2: A Legend Reborn - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News any help to you? I have no idea of the reliability of their tests etc. and their framerate is an average, but could help?
     
  37. Neubeehunhun

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    I will definitely go with an m14x. I currently have the xps 14 and love the size(fits right into any small backpack!). And a gt555m would be perfect for what I do, My OCed 425 is a little shy on performance, but an OCed 555m would definitely do the trick.

    The deal is already set for me, if the price starts at around $1000-1100.
     
  38. revdiesel

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    It sucks that the M14x wont have a 1080p screen, no 3D screen options either. Also no blueray player which would be sweet since it has wireless HD transmitting (WiDi).
     
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    Why does my car don't have a lamborghini door, why does my car don't have 26 inch rims. You can't have everything :cool:
     
  40. revdiesel

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    Yes but they could have done it easy and put a premium on it for people that want it.
     
  41. BeastRider

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    What's with the WiDi? What does that do? Won't you need an adaptor for the display u'll be connecting to? M11x R3 or M14x for me..Still have to make a decision..Won't get one till June or July maybe though..lol
     
  42. martinroshak

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    Thanks for that, but without the minimum I've honestly got no clue... my r1 pulls about 55 average in the game, but dips to 4, so I can expect better performance, but have no clear indication of the minimum, which I ideally don't want below 20...

    I honestly just want them released so I can get down to some comparisons and real in game results so I can decide whether I want to upgrade at this point or not. But I seriously see a fully spec'd out r3 in my future...
     
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  44. BeastRider

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    The M11x R1 to R3 upgrade seems like a pretty reasonable one to me..I mean with the 2nd gen i7 on it and new graphics as well as 1333 RAM, I believe it'll be a pretty big performance boost..Now the M14x sounds promising too if the price would be anywhere near the M11x R3, it seems like a pretty good buy..Although I can't say till I see the final prices for the M14x..Anything more than $1500 with best processor seems too pricy to me..M11x R3 at around $1300 with best processor seems really promising.. :D
     
  45. itcomic

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    I think you may consider m17x instead which included all the premium you wanted.
     
  46. revdiesel

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    Its too big for me to carry to school everyday. Also have a nice desktop at home so it would be pointless.
     
  47. BeastRider

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    I think Dell wants to distinguish the "budget/portable models" M11x/M14x with the "high end models" M17x/M18x which is why they don't put in too many upgrade options for the M11x/M14x..I mean their train of thought goes "If you want the blu-ray/1080p or whatever other premiums, go with our high-end models" or something like that..Well IMO anyway.. :)
     
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    Does anyone think they'll ever do an M21x? :p
     
  49. BeastRider

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    I think they call that an Aurora with an Alienware LCD screen..lol :p
     
  50. Voodooi

    Voodooi AFK for a while...

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    That German AW site is such a tease for whats to come :p

    Was toying around with the M11X-R3 customization options. Interesting that German Dell Financial rates are 10.9%, meanwhile it's almost triple that over here. I don't like debt so I'll be doing paypal-bank ;)

    C'mon US/Can sites! Only two more days left (Tuesday)!!!
     
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