Alienware New Model Speculation Thread

Guys is WLED the same as you get on say an LED TV or is it just an lcd screen with extra lighting with leds ?

 

I don't think WLED is the same as the LED when you say LED TV..Cause they call the display of the R1 "WLED" and I don't think it's LED lol..I'm not entirely sure though..Just based on me seeing an LED TV and comparing it to the display of my M11x..

 

The m11x at stock is 1.3GHz.

Normal OC through Bios takes it to either 1.6 or 1.73 with Pinmod allowing it to hit 2.0GHz.

Also, you overclocked your card from 450/1080/790 to 550/1320/925. Thats a pretty big difference for 3D mark.

Atleast wait until R3 numbers with a overclocked CPU and GPU come out to make comparisons. Either compare stock to stock or overclocked to overclocked. I can guarantee you they will hit waaaay over 8k.

IIRC, a stock R1 gets about 6000? My R2 at stock gets about 6800, with overclocking I get it at 8600. Overclocking makes a big difference.

 

Were the r1 test done with default 1024p 3dmark06? I can't find details for the 540m benchmark but I suppose it was done with 1024p.

The 540m should be more than enough if you stick to the default 768p screen. But if you find yourself often connecting to a screen with more than 768p screen, 555m is definitely the way to go.

Edit: and yeah, OCed 540m can score over 10k 3dmark06. If you want to know the details you could check out the xps 15, it has i7 and 540m.

 

Oh sorry, I thought the R3 8k 3Dmark was with the BIOS OC on lol..My bad..I didn't do the pinmod btw, I just enabled BIOS OC.. Your R2 score of 8600 is BIOS OC or u did something else? Just curious..

 

There are several methods of LED backlighting. TV's vary in what method they use as do PC monitors and laptop screens.

Very basic:
WLED uses LED's to produce white and color filters to get color from the white. There are several types of White LED's as well as many quality levels, so this doesn't say, just from the description, whether it is good or bad, but at least you know it is using LED's for the backlight.

RGB LED uses some variation and mix of RGB colored LED's which mix to form white (with the belief that it creates a "more pure" white than the WLED) and then a color filter to produce colors on the screen.

White phosphor based LED's slowly change color temperature at a rate slower than CCFL's but based on the same color degradation principle, which is a break down in the phosphor.

White LED's often have a blue or UV element to them, making building color filters difficult for them difficult and often manage to retain some amount of cool temperature balance to the image. However they are cheap and plentiful, but also have a fairly wide range of "quality" which often translates to a variance in the pure color temperature of one batch to the next.

RGB LED's have some issues as well, though they are arguably the best in image quality. Off angle the mix may not be perfect lending a color cast to the intended "white" mix of the RGB colors. Sometimes the LED's change brightness at differing rates, again changing the color balance/temperature in the intended "white" of the backlight. Using very high quality LED's is usually the cure for this, which often translates to very high price to the end user.

This is very basic info and has a lot of variability depending on the technogies used, how evolved the manufacturing process of the parts has become, and other factors. So take it with the "this is basic info" grain of salt please and I shall humbly apologise if any of the information has become dated, as this technology is constantly evolving.

 

Thanks for that FXi

But WLED is better than LCD im guessing ?

 

WLED is a type of backlighting for LCD.

 

i see.. lol thanks

 

They are all LCDs, but with different ways of showing image. Wled is the most basic and common one for today's standard. Though you shouldn't need anything above that unless you work with photo/video. It's like an i7 2720 compared to a 2820 to a 2920.

 

IIRC the the blue degrades the fastest.

 

So you can have a mix.

RGB LED IPS

WLED TN

CCFL TN

All are different LCD tech, all use liquid crstal.

 

Ok, this is my last question it now looks like the m14x will not have a 3d screen, but is it capable of 3d on an external ?

 

It's an nVidia GPU. Should be capable of 3D, yes, like pretty much any nVidia GPU produced within the past few years.

It won't be good enough to play games in high details and 3D...well, not likely. Some benchmarks have placed it very close to the 460M, others further behind...we need to wait for results with the M14x.

 

SETFSB OC to 170 and GPU OCed to 550/1330/950

 

Can a fully-loaded M14x play Crysis?

 

Of course.

Can it play it well. That's another story.

I'd say it should manage Medium, 1366x768 fine. High if you're not too concerned with perfectly smooth framerates.

 

I don't think it will be.

Optimus does not have the bandwidth internally to push 120FPS IIRC.

I'm not sure the intel graphics can output it either and since thats what the ports are hooked up to....

 

WLED means the backlight is blue LED's with a yellow phosphor, which will eventually degrade, it also means it's Edgelit, as in the LED's are around the edge providing backlighting.

The GOOD LED backlighting is RGB Local-dimming, it uses Red/Green/and Blue LED's and has them for the entire backlight, selectively turning them off/on for a better contrast ratio/picture.

 

Does anyone know anything about the Truelife LCD display in the M11X R3?

Is it a significant improvement in quality over previous generations? I know it's still glossy, but is the viewing angles, brightness, contrast, reflections, or colors improved?

 

555m stock clock
Crysis 2: high or very high (forgot)
At 1080p, fps average 20-25

555m overclocked
Crysis 2: high or very high (forgot)
At 1080p, fps average 29-30

 

I am interested in m11x gt540m can play CoD MW2?

 

See m17x as reference. Looks good enough to me.

 

yes it can very well.
the old 335m could as well...

 

Definitely. Should be able to manage High at 1366x768 or higher, possibly even at 1600x900.

If one of my two significantly weaker GPUs (Crossfire currently doesn't work well, nor does SLi) can manage it on High at 1366x768 perfectly smooth, then the 555M can do significantly better than that.

 

Austria Mx14 R1 Konfigurations Page
Mx14 R1

 

Why in the name of god would you be looking at 1080p benchmarks? Do you really want to play Crysis at 1080p from a netbook? (fine, an above-average laptop, the point still stands.) If you were to take those specs, and put them into a laptop, it wouldn't be anything special, so why try and play Crysis on it?

Play it at 13x7 and be happy with higher framerates.

 

m14x is not a netbook...

 

My bad, I had my head stuck on the M11x for some reason. Point still stands though. Why look at 19x10 when you should be looking at 16x9.

 

The pic is m11x , and one wireless card option is missing. And it is in german ????
The waiting is burning my mind ......

 

Becauae that's my external monitor resolution ? And i don't play crisis/2 . I am a d3 guy. That's what i am targeting with max out effects but there is a slight chance that it may handle 1080p ......
And just to show the potential of this card ?

 

Austria is just south of Germany if u don't know and we speak German

 

Where is the option to get the 3GB 555?

I only see 1.5GB as of now?

 

I thought the M14x only has 1 graphics option? Will there be a 3GB option as well?

 

No. The user manual clearly says:

Discrete
NVIDIA GeForce GT555M

Video memory
Integrated
512 MB dedicated video memory (for total system memory greater than 4 GB)
Discrete
1.5 GB
3.0 GB.

Maybe, it will only be availble in USA.

 

Cool, hope it won't cost a fortune..Though I doubt I'd be able to afford that upgrade..

 

Why isn't there a blu-ray drive on the m14x? Has anybody switched out the disk drives on alienware notebooks? I'm guessing it can't be that hard.

 

It still hasn't officially been released. The fact that it's up on the UK site now could be a mistake for all we know. The spec could easily change.

 

yeah, a Optical drive would be truly useless if cant read blurays

 

Apparently you can buy it in uk. I've been talking to sales guy and you can buy in uk for some reason.

Although it's too expensive for me.

 

............i'm not saying it would be useless. I'm saying that with Widi, it would be really nice to have the notebook fully capable to fuel an entertainment room setup.

 

I dont see the 555 having enough memory banwidth to even use 3gb....

 

I thought read somewhere that the m14x and m11x would have a soft touch palm rest Does anyone know if that's true? I'm not sure I'm feeling soft touch materials on the palm rest as it would wear quickly.

 

Yea, I agree with the above about the 555. I've only read about the 1.5 gb card.

 

thats not sarcasm, it would just annoy me if i had this optical drive that takes up lots of space in my machine and it could only play old disk and not the new blu-ray disks

because lets face it dvds will be getting old eventually

 

I talked to 3 different Dell/Alienware Agents. They said that there won't be any changes on the price and configuration for now. Launch is next week and you can already order as they "have it available now". I also got the link to the configuration/order site from a Dell Agent.

 

maybe they will be officialy released tomorrow ?

start of the week

 

19th... 2 days more..

 

haha. sorry to take your comment the wrong way. Would we void the warranty if we swapped out the optical drive? Sadly, I think we would. Maybe we should wait a couple of months to make sure the hardware is functional before we try to do so.

 

Alienware vice president said the new M11x would have soft touch palm rest. If this turns out to be true or not, who knows. Personally, I don't understand why they would put such material on the palm rest, because as you say, it would likely wear/chip/peel off quickly from friction and sweaty hands. And soon there would be plenty of such threads complaining about it here on the forum... One would think Alienware would be aware of such risks as well...