Alienware Offering Another Video Card In the m15x, First In a 15"

Alienware is the first to offer the Quadro 3600M in a 15" notebook, the fastest video card for CAD/OpenGL on the market. Is Alienware slowly updating the m15x with new options a sign of things to come?

 

interesting to say the least...

 

Oh so now those engineering students willl lug around an AW.. A scary sight!!!

 

good move by AW if you ask me.
small pkg for CAD/OpenGL like Michael said.
better portability with smartbay, and industiral GPU.....damn....

they definately got a market share there.....

 

So is a dual 8800 gtx faster then the single Quadro 3600M?

 

Yeah. I think the 8800M GTX and the Quadro 3600M are almost the same, give or take a few specs. The 8800M GTX will be better for games, though.

 

FX 3600M = 8800m GTS

 

They are the same card. There is actually a guide to flash the 1600M so that it performs like a 8700GT and vice versa so you can actually turn the 8700GT into a "work" card.

You can probably flash the 8800GTX if someone releases a guide so it performs like a 3600M

 

stupid question, but why would you want to?

 

hmmmm that is a smart move for AW, would have got me almost questioning my sager9262 purchase... that thing is a beast

although i do also need the quad for rendering purposes, and the massive storage

but it did catch my interest

 

Not happening for 8-series yet.

For CAD apps. with regular GPUs, features are limited.

 

I'm pretty sure you can flash the 8700GT and its equiv quadro card.

 

Before people go This card better then that one. The best idea is get some FACTS. The Quadro 3600M might be faster then the 8800. But untel we know if it better or worse we do not have facts.

 

ok - see if i get this then....
if you were to 'flash' the 8800GTX would it benefit better for gameplay then?
or would it deminish the GTX?

 

i don't see how it could help... however, the 8-series cards can already run CUDA, so there isn't really any need to flash it.

 

i guess that is where i am lost then whizzo.
it seems they are same architexture (spelling), maybe not ? , so i do not really see a difference of one over the other, plus the $100+ difference for the quad vice the GTX.

am i really missing something then?

 

Best idea ryujin is let other try it out. I am looking at it but I upgrading the gpu soon. If I dont see anything that can help with my gaming it worthless to me and I will buy two 8800gtx If the card better I would buy them. But untel people know the FACTS. it Best to Wait and See.

 

ok - so i will wait to see what others think...
but are they the same in essence or no? i mean from specs. i am not a gpu guru and not knowledgable enough about certain specs to gather that info and see a difference....

anyone?

 

youre avvys hot

 

They are the same basic card, but the 8800 GTX is optimized for games, whereas the Quadro series is optimized for 3d design and CAD.
So, for a gamer, the geforce series is better, for an engineer/3d designer the Quadro cards are better

Thank you for constructively adding to the discussion. Your in depth post has helped us all in our discussion of a videocard. Can't you at least use proper english in your useless posts.

 

just bought an m15x and now they are upgrading it, dammit.

 

out of interest, what does "optimized" refer to exactly? the driver/BIOS or the actual construction of the card?

 

The Quadro 3600M was scheduled to come out Q3 2008 for MXM Type III-IV.

I posted this a while back.

Alienware may be one of the first to officially announce the option for their system(s)... but the card will be available for other systems as well.

Clevo systems will have access to the same cards and their vendors will make it an option when the card is available.

Not too huge of news for a 8800M GTS equivalent Quadro card.

 

Found my post from a while back about Quadro 3600M release for Clevo:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=257617

So HP and Dell had it first, now the other high-end systems have the videocard modules... yay.

 

Is this the way of AW of dealing with new laptops coming out? Putting in a more expensive GPU that is not great for gaming experience? That's a bit... sad!

 

why are you trying so hard to put AW in a bad light? all they're doing is broadening the configuration possibilities for the m15x so people who need powerful tools for work (CAD, 3D) can select a GPU tailored for their needs... i don't see anything wrong with that.

 

Yea it makes sense to use the 3600m in their notebooks as it is a very powerful card for 3d work and it makes a more portable option available. I have to say though if the 3600m downclocks that would suck.

 

As mentioned before I think they're more likely exploring a new market segment (or something) with this card than offering a new card for gaming.

Just a thought - correct me if I'm wrong - Since the Extreme processors are locked and can not be overclocked, adding a GPU optimized for CAD et. al. to their lineup seems like a move in the right direction for those who need processing power more than FPS.

 

Just because I don't like AW and I think their business is not fair!
Do I have the right to express my views or I am only allowed to say positive things about AW?

But... it was sort of a joke! You take things too serious man. Anyway...

 

It is always our intention to offer the best components for our mobile and desktop systems. With the release of the Quadro series, productivity users can greatly benefit from the performance offered.

 

Thanks for the claification, James.

I'm going to agree with Wraithers, Alienware is targeting a different market with this card.

 

In all honesty, the Nvidia Quadro FX3600m provides Engineering oriented folks a chance to have a high performance yet portable unit. I personally see this as a great option against the Dell Precision M 17" Unit. I would have welcomed this even though I have one with the 8800mGTX. It is truly geared towards a more technical crowd. Also, a professional part only adds to a buyers set of options.
I really don't see it as a bad thing.

Just my two cents...

 

yeah but pretty every post you make is a "joke" like that...

 

Cheers to Alienware-James and Chaz
Wasn't too sure I was right for a second there

I really hope this next month goes by fast so I can get my hands on my Alien !!
Alienware - I really need that matte black

 

Out of curiousity, does that mean that we'll see the 9800M GTX in the m15x ...?

 

If you don't think it's hot enough already.

 

Alienware was the first (and the only to release it for seven months) to pull of the 8800M GTX in a 15" notebook, with a new design, I'm sure they could pull of the 9800M GTX.

 

LOL. Try it and Fry it.

 

It also addresses the Video Editing market because the majority of applications out there list quadros open gl as a requirement. However both gpus are the same, and both are open gl.

Call it marketing snobbery that you must have the quadro in order to use the applications (for video) is ridiculous. The quadro's used to be priced much higher and for what just the label? Now they are affordible but I still prefer the "gamer" gpu over the "professional".

 

They were the first to put it, untested, inside a 15'' laptop. Look at all the problems the GPU had in the beggining with all the downclock and overheating. That's clearly a sign that they just wanted to take the trophy without really thinking about consequences. What they did was, very simply put, reckless and irresponsible.

Appart from that, I would give AW all their due credit if they would make some significative change on their M15x product. As it stands now, all the new fancy videos, this "new" Quadro GPU, etc... what kind of strategy is it? Why don't they start by improving the quality of the laptop? I would be much more pleased if I would hear them saying they are going to introduce a new chassis, without those cheap plastic, without hinges that are held in place by little plastic supports (that will break at some point)... Now, if that would happen, I can tell you... I would be the first one buying from them again.

Till something solid is made by AW, I can only read all their attempts as trying to deviate people's attention from what is completely wrong here... A laptop that was never taken to the drawing board and was given directly to consumers, without proper testing.

And that's all... If you don't like my jokes, attitudes, opinions... I respect that. I'm not forcing anyone to see things the way I do, I'm just sharing what I can see. If you guys think my vision is stupid... than it's possible that I'm just very stupid (which is true). But... I still have the right to express my "stupidity"!

Cheers to all and WELL DONE FOR ANOTHER GPU AW!!!
Now... can you work out the cheap plastics, overheating, cracking lids? That would be great as well...

 

Hehe.. You go milcs !!
I like it how your list of faults is slowly, but steadily, dwindling
Oh and I heard that the new BIOS from AW and GPU drivers from laptopvideo2go.com are giving real good idle/workload temps. Check on that if you want to get rid of the 'overheating' problem

And no one on here minds your 'stupidity' - not that *we* would call it that of course.

 

well milcs will never take the build quality issue off his list. If AW suddenly made the m15x as tough as a panasonic toughbook milcs would worship the m15x as a masterpiece of technology.

 

nope. he'd still be complaining how much more expensive it is...

 

Not naming names I think He or She will find a fault somewhere in every system they own even if it 100% working. Just to get a discount or people show pitty on them.

 

Guys, trying to be inteligent is one thing... making an effort to be pathetic is another completely distinct. Try and be more inteligent in your arguments please...
And again, don't make this a personal thing. You really don't want to go that way.

 

aw, come on, it was just a joke... you take things way to serious man...

 

ahahaha... that's true! Sorry for that...

 

reviving this thread in place of a new one....
has/does anyone have any good comparisons of these two?
is one for sure better suited for cad vs. games? and why?
thx...

 

Maybe this would help (From Wikipedia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA_Quadro

According to the same source and same page the FX 3600M is based on the 8800M GTS

 

wow - never thought of wiki for this....thx iElSayed....