Alienware is bad! But why?

i fixed it just for you

ok we need to get back on subject

AW is a company they have faults and soemtimes they mess up dont listen to any body but the people who have owned and do own them.

the best buy from AW right now for gaming is m17
the best buy for portability is the m15x it gets 6 hour of battery life with SB batery
the worst buy is the m9750 ...its going to be killed at any moment

 

And the site for Asia(Japan), Middle-East or Europe?

 

some european countries have dedicated sites (.de, .ch, etc.), others go through the UK store, which handles all other international orders as well (India for example).

 

which one!!!!!!! do you need from ? i mean there all in differnt languges

germany is alienware.de

 

The English one or Japanese one, any of 'em!

The one that can bring the notebook to the Middle-East or Far-East.

 

http://www.alienware.co.uk/main.aspx and then select "Rest of World" from the drop-down box up top.

 

couldnt say that i the first place?

 

I love your snowman.

 

Mo money, mo problems.

 

You mean more money, more problems?

 

What kind of problems?

 

Thanks! finally..

 

I actually did mean "Mo money mo problems". As a tribute to the hit Notorious BIG from 1997.

Getting back to the topic, you pay a premium Alienware products. But you get more problems what with inadequate support, AW limiting your laptops overall "ability" by voiding your warranty if you overclock anything, and killing the earth by wasting precious voltage by powering millions of alienheads around the world. I've never had problems with AW myself, but I did plenty of research over the past year+ in deciding what laptop to buy myself, and AW was one of the first companies I went to. When I compared similar systems to AW systems, including the infamous former OCZ Whitebook vs. the M17), you can see a pretty significant price difference. The only thing I felt I was getting back in return was that alien head, and a fancier keyboard.

As a side note, I dont think AW would offer to pay me the restock fee I would be charged if I returned my system, just to keep it (My current notebook-formerly-known-as-Whitebook reseller just offered me that just to keep it). Havent decided yet.

 

When all that fallout between OCZ and Flextronics happened, I panicked, thinking I bought a laptop which I thought would be upgradeable to dual 4870's, but all the sudden wouldnt be anymore. Sweet as the laptop already was with xFire 3870s, I bought it specifically with the 4870's in mind. Being that it still has issues that may or may not allow it to ever be upgraded in the current form of the "Whitebook", as well as some other random stuff, I decided to return it.

That is until I was offered a good amount of money just to keep it. Now I have another week or 2 to decide whether its worth it.

 

So what do you suggest mate? Should I buy an m17 or not? Well it be of much worth the money or not? What are the things you recommend I take in the specifications when customizing it before buying it? How long do you think it will be good with me? Not in surviving only but in how much time will it be good.

 

[1] M17

Video/Graphics Card: Dual 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3870 - CrossFireX™ Enabled!
Processor: Intel® Core™2 T9400 2.53GHz (6MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB)
Design & Display: Black Skullcap Design
Chassis: 17-Inch WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD (720p)
Keyboard Options: Illuminated Keyboard – Alienware Exclusive Design - Astral Blue
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (64-bit Edition) with Service Pack 1
Notebook Tuners and Remotes: Without Media Center Remote Control or TV Tuner
Memory: 2GB Dual Channel DDR3 SO-DIMM at 1066MHz – 2 x 1024MB
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 160GB 7,200RPM (8MB Cache) w/ Free Fall Protection
Optical Drives : 8x Dual Layer Burner (DVD±RW, CD-RW)
Wireless Network Card: Internal Intel® Ultimate N 5300 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card with MIMO Technology
The World's First 450 Mbps Wi-Fi Adapter!
Sound Card : Internal High-Definition Audio with Surround Sound
Warranty: 1-Year AlienCare Onsite Service and 24/7 Toll-Free Phone Support

will last 1-2 years upgrade ram and hard drive off of new egg to save 300 dollars and it will not void your warrenty


later when you have money you can upgrade your cpu to a quad core qx9300 and last alot longer

and upgrade your graphics to 4870's with ddr5 ram which will be a nice boost to gaming(it will be the first to have it for laptops)

with those upgrade it will game well for at least 3 years depending how the future of games go

EDIT: deleted other 2 post after hep mentioned it ... My bad .

 

Thanks!

I'm hoping for it to last at least for 7 years though.

 

MR.Moo.... stop triple posting.

 

Even that doesnt make ANY sense to me. The current 4870s out in the ASUS W90 are only DDR3. Is it really possible that a smaller notebook (17in vs 18.4) with a lesser chipset (PM45 vs X38) and a lesser cooling system can still handle a better version of the xFire 4870s? Especially when the Whitebook already has the occasional heating issues with stock xFire 3870s? Without switching things up in the current Whitebook/M17, it doesnt add up at all. Thats just me though.

I agree with Moo. He knows what he's talking about, and he has an M17, so he knows AW more than I do.

In my honest opinion though, I wish I waited in buying my Whitebook. Its a great system as it is, and if it isnt upgradeable to the 4870's, it will still be probably the 1st or 2nd best bang for the buck powerhouse gaming notebook in the world. Of course, that is only the case if you pay good money for it. I may be biased, but I dont believe AW is ever a good bang-for-the-buck choice (unless you get some %30 employee discount). It doesnt help that their parent company is Dell, a company that'll sell you overpriced components that were new 1-3 years ago.

 

Hey long time no post.

Anyways I see many people here trying to get alienware laptop solely because of its looks. Granted that alienware laptops have unique looks, but they just aren't worth the price AW charges.

For example, I'll compare alienware m15x with Sager NP8660 (Built on Clevo M860TU)

Both laptops have:

• 15.4" Screen (1920x1200)
• Intel Core Duo 2.93GHz
• GeForce 9800M GTS 512MB
• 4Gb Ram
• 2X Blue-Ray drive
• 320GB Hard drive
• Windows Vista Ultimate 64-Bit
• 3 yr. Warranty
• All other options are the same as well

The M15x will cost you around $3,570 US
The M860TU will cost you around $2,300 US
Difference of $1,270 US


Now if you don't want to pay $1,270 for the look, you can get your M860TU with customized skin for only $89.
Example: More here: http://www.xoticpc.com/exterior-finish-option-a-10.html (Scroll down)

 

sorry for triple posting i just wasnt paying attention( i deleted them )

AW has confirmed it and flex is working with AW to revamp the cooling system. they know there is heat issues and they are trying to correct them. the 4870's will be nice though

 

As a natural skeptic, I just have to question, how much current owners will have to pay to revamp their own cooling system. I'm probably not willing to wait to see, even with another 15% discount. But I will definitely have the 4870s before the year is up, with a whitebook or not. I agree they will be sick, especially if they are ddr5 like AW says. If my whitebook can get 14000 3dMark with dual 3870s and no tweaks at all, I can only imagine what any other system with the same specs but 4870s would get.

 

Even though those skins are nice, they don't have an alien face with an eye with changeable colors and 4 slides around it.

But I'm starting to feel that I could get another notebook with just different looks that would be more worth it.

 

Its really up to you if you want to pay all that premium for the fancy keyboard and the fancy alien head. Be happy with whatever you buy. As long as you're fine with spending all that extra money for a little aesthetic value, just do it.

 

What notebook is competitive with the m17 or at least almost competitive and has lower price than it?

 

you're willing to pay over a grand for alien face with colors?

check here for other options besides the M17
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4299157&postcount=2

 

I feel like not anymore..

 

What Ricky said. Thats one of the best and most straight forward guides on NBR. Thats an old version of the list though. The ASUS W90 should be added to that. It is definitely one of the tops right now. As long as you can handle a 18.4 in screen on a 2+ inch thick monster (check it out on XoticPC).

You might also want to fill out that "What notebook should I buy" FAQ and post under a new thread so others might be able to find it and help you (and not think we're only badmouthing AW in this thread).

One last thing. If you want to fell a little better rethinking your choice of AW, check this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=357706. $5500+ for a system you can get for half that hurts just thinking about it. But at least he's happy. Thats all that matters.

 

Erm, I guess you could, but why? You'd basically be buying a piece of molded plastic with gaudy lights for eyes that light up. Nothing screams g33k n00b more than a cheap plastic alien head molded onto a PC.

 

forgot about the w90. and also If you go to sager/clevo forum, there is some news that Clevo is releasing a new laptop which will be competing with asus w90.

I recommend you and all other buyers do some thorough research on laptops. For example check out all the makers listed on NBR and see what products they offer. Don't finalize until you have seen the competing products.

 

why is every one bashing AW? i paid 2100 for my system....only 200 more then any other Whitebook reseller and i know what i paid for and what i got. this thread needs to be closed it serves no purpose any more other then to bash AW. He has got his information and where to go

 

I read the first 3 pages. Wow, they were the most uneducated 3 pages I've ever read on NBR. (Cept for hep and whizzo)

Mr. Moo, a "whitebook" is a barebones laptop that usually only comes with the GPU, Wireless and the vital components. The HDD, CPU, RAM, OD and so on can be put in by the consumer, which in the end saves money and offers endless configuration options.

The OCZ Whitebook is a name given to the Arima W840 DI, simple as that. Whizzo is right in his definition of a whitebook and you can stop pretending you know so much about it.

Seriously, I long for the old Alienware NBR days, where most m15x owners helped tweak and mod, where almost everyone was adept with computers.

Nowadays, most people here are just m17 owners, all feeding off E-Wrecked's work.

Oh yeah and seriously:

That ahs to be the most obvious sarcasm ever but the scary thing is, it wasn't.

 

i was wrong, sorry for not knowing something...... and if i fed off E-wrecked work then i would actually have the performance modded driver!!!!! sadly i have never worked with modding INF's, i just tried to gather them to help other people.

sadly i haven't went to school yet so i do not have as much knowledge, but at least i am trying to help unlike some one else just bashing every thing else. I am learning every day so just deal with it

 

I try not to be rude, but MR.Moo, I see you post a lot. Most of those posts have little content or are incorrect in their content. There is absolutely nothing wrong with ignorance - we all start there, and there are many subjects not related to computers which I am very ignorant in, for example - cars. But I wouldn't make attempts to help people on a car forum. If I had interest but not knowledge in cars, I would sit back and take in the knowledge of others. I'm sorry that this post is directed at you, but I am king of just echoing the sentiments of plasma. It's not just the AW subforum, all of NBR has transformed in the past few months - there are more and more people who post a lot but don't actually know what they're posting about, which ends up with a lot less quality content. I've noticed it a lot, I know some other members have noticed it as well. It's just kind of sad. Understand I'm not talking down to you either, it's good advice for everyone - if you don't know the answer, don't try to give one.

 

ok thank's ?!? and gratz on 4 k

 

Ace post.

I hardly post in the main forum now, and usually stick to the off topic section, where new people tend to stay out of.

I wish there was a way to make sticky names size 10 font, to reduce the clutter in the forums. Just some highlights:
" Where online to buy Asus laptop " in the Asus section
" Are those temps normal ? " in the Gaming section
" New Laptop... What kind of games can I play? " in the Gaming Section

Not to mention the countless "OMG M17 HALP" and "When 4870 come out" threads in this subforum.

+rep

 

that is quite annoying and it is why i made a thread with emails from AW stating that they were producing and useing ddr 5 ram, but they did not have a release date and yet there has been countless post in m17 owner lounge and threads started.....also we just made a nice m17 sticky today which no one will proably read....crazy as it sounds i know exactly what you mean ....but i dont mind helping the people even with the little things

lol i just read that one

 

chaz: close or move thread please. this is becoming more in the realm of "what notebook should i buy" catagory and is becoming an AW bashing thread.....
please close or move...thx.

 

ROFL mate!

 

Please point me to where this thread had become an AW bashing thread. Or a WNSIB thread.

Because all I can see is just sound advice.

 

True as that may be, alot of post here talked about problems with AW and how they charge alot more for there looks. It is true but we knew what we were buying n it does look like bashing when you get 20 people say pshh that's stupid why buy AW you save here etc. He did get helped in the end and got guides on what to get so I guess it all worked out.

Just my thoughs

(remeber the chucks plasma, remember the chucks...)

 

started around page two when comparisons were made between various makers of books.

then it went on from there to a bash Mr. Moo moment. while his posts may seem off topic or not-so-understandable, he has as much a right to post as anyone else here. he owns an AW m17, and to be fair, he has posted personal and valuable information for others looking into the unit.

and what does someones desire to purchase a unit via credit have anything to do with this? why attempt to make financial decisions for someone else when you no not of their situation.

it went far off, and far left. that is why i posted what i did.

 

Fair enough.

Once Chaz finds this thread, I think that temp ban is finally coming

 

Hang in there Moo not all your posts were in vain!

Too many are too lazy to do the research, you will be surprised what you find while doing it. Something that lazyness will never know.

 

This thread has reached the end of it useful life . . . closed.