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    Best Area-51 m15x notebook cooler, Tilts or no Tilt? Lets discuss

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by firstn20, Apr 19, 2008.

  1. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    Alright I just been in the other forums asking about the best cooler for the M15x. And they told me that Alienware-Frank didn't know what he was talking about and that the M15x should be fine with one.

    Well I explained that Alienware-Frank is a tech representative and seems to know what he is talking about. Here is the link please read:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=3254614#post3254614


    And you can find Alienware-Frank's comments when I asked about the cooler:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=228872&page=60

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=228872&page=61

    So now, lets disucuss, tilt or no tilt, which cooler is the best ?
     
  2. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    i think his statements imply that no tilt is better. i think notebook cooling systems rely on convection etc. a bit, so tilting the lappie might screw that up and cause bad cooling.
     
  3. rexibaby987

    rexibaby987 Notebook Evangelist

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    I have the zalman cooler, its not as useful as I thought it would be. Temp diff is only 1C or 2C. The zalman cooler fan is weaker than the m15x fan. Let me give u an example. Try to blow wind lightly into the back of the fan, there will be no differences at all cause the fan is sucking more air than u right, unless u blow harder than the fan u wont feel the diff. The M15x fan is 10 times more powerful than zalman cooler. It doesn't help to cool CPU or GPU at all.

    However the zalman cooler can cool your chasis which in turn cool the CPU & GPU by conduction. But its only 1C on average. It also help to cool your sweaty finger cause there is a lot of air escaping from left and right side. I sometimes place my hand there to cool it. Works like bowling - result in less grease near keyboard area.

    The max speed of the zalman cooler cant even lift a hair when place on it.

    But I have read somewhere in the forum that it can cool up to 3C - 5C.
     
  4. gshemar

    gshemar Notebook Guru

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    it cools my m9750 by 4 degrees C on average and the system runs pretty cool to start with!
     
  5. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    Tilt or no-tilt, it doesn't matter. Either way air will be sucked in by the fans. The point is that you don't block the vents.

    The guys who were getting dc'ing because of tilting are just by coincidence since it only happens to some not everyone.

    So, just buy whatever cooler you like.
     
  6. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    can that be confirmed by few other people? And can people who has the cooler and X32 bios test to see if they still have problems?
     
  7. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    rexibaby987 Notebook Evangelist

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    1) zalman cooler is the best I have used. Its very silent, its made of aluminum (good cooling factor), solidly built, have 2 USB port and fan can be controlled. A tilit cooler makes typing a bit harder IMO. Your hand is arch slightly upward . Not a very big problem.

    2) zalman is very much design to push air from below and that fit into the m15x criteria. m15x has large vent at the bottom plate and zalman has lots of holes spread across large area exactly at the vent. M15x pull air & zalman push air. ALL at the same spot.

    3) doesn't matter, zalman cooler has holes over an area so wide it covers everywhere even it its misalign.

    4) I think zalman is the best for this system. But b4 u buy pls take note it wont bring temp down much diff (my post above). However u will have a slightly cooler plastic chasis and bottom is not as hot.

    5) Zalman cooler works by spreading the air across the whole bottom. Its like m15x floating on air. It does not blow at a particular spot.it spread across the whole bottom and air will escape from the side (not towards you, there is a rubber seal there)

    I have run this test with it and no DC so far (less than an hour test though - need more extensive testing, I use to DC with it after 2-3 hrs). x32 bios just blast & blast & blast . Does not matter if u tilt left or right. Its also good to use on bed. (Note: using m15x on your bed w/o cooler is a suicide mission- bed sheet entirely block vent).

    I am suspecting why it DC. All I can think of is the zalman cooler also cool the temp sensor in the system fooling it to believe temp is lower and thus does not activate the fan when GPU hit a certain temp. It DC. Pls someone correct me if I am wrong. Just guessing.

    So far I am not using the cooler anymore. I realize m15x dun need a cooler at all. Well no harm to have if u really want one. :D
     
  9. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    more feedback please people would much aprpeciate it, thanks
     
  10. Faizan21

    Faizan21 Notebook Guru

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    so from wat im reading... a notebook cooler isnt really necessary anymore with the x32 bios?
    cuz i rmr at first ppl were saying a noteboook cooler was very neccessary with the m15x...
     
  11. kobe

    kobe Notebook Virtuoso

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    A notebook cooler will help with the cooling. But, the m15x doesn't need it to run as it should run.
     
  12. min2209

    min2209 Notebook Deity

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    Tilt does matter, the heat pipes that are in your notebook malfunction when you tilt them too much. The vapor inside can't flow right when you tilt it.
     
  13. dsproductions

    dsproductions Notebook Consultant

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    ive bought a cheap and cheerful fan based cooler off ebay, one of the ones with blue fans lol. it tilts the laptop a bit towards me and has three fans on the bottom. since having it, i would say that my m15x doesnt really get warm to the touch at all. i dont do a lot of gaming, but i have definately noticed a small difference in everyday usage.
     
  14. pokefluffy

    pokefluffy Notebook Guru

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    I use a rosewill swivel tilt fan and it works really well. However, as long as the vents aren't blocked the laptop still stays cool anyhow. I just use it because it's easier to play/type on when it's on my desk :-/
     
  15. Slideworks

    Slideworks Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have had both and I like tilts ...seems to be cooler.
    (currently using zalman 2000 with my m9750)
     
  16. Schuby

    Schuby Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm considering overclocking my m15x and looking for a cooler for it.

    Currently I'm looking at the Zalman ZM-NC2000. Is anyone using this with their m15x? Does it work/make a difference? Do the fan vents on the m15x align to teh grill on the cooler?

    Thanks,
    Schuby
     
  17. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    i have the Zalman NC2000, and have found out that you have to slide the m15x all the way down so that the cool air from the topmost holes hits the GPU and CPU vents. i just got an Antec 200 cooler today and it's performing very well. will probably post my findings in a few days, including temperature comparisons.
     
  18. firstn20

    firstn20 Notebook Evangelist

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    Whoa old post, back when I was planning on purchasing a M15x. CLEVO FTW!
     
  19. Mister Scary

    Mister Scary Notebook Enthusiast

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    How is the Antec 200 cooler working for you? Do you like it better than the Zalman? Any chance you could post your findings?
     
  20. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    haven't gotten around to writing up my full review yet - shouldn't take too long though. i can say that the Zalman cools the m15x better than the Antec.
     
  21. jdeclue

    jdeclue Notebook Consultant

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    With the newer laptop hard drives, tilting the laptop can cause performance issues. If you have a drive which is able to detect shock in order to protect itself both vibrations and tilting the drive can cause it to lock. So Tilting is not always a good thing, additionally when it is tilted and if there is any flex in the cooler the typing on it will cause vibration causing the drive to lock over and over, slowing the computer down considerably.
     
  22. whizzo

    whizzo Notebook Prophet

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    BS. you tilt it once when you put it on the cooler, then you just leave it... no shocks or anything. and HDD vibration from typing is just ridiculuos.
     
  23. jdeclue

    jdeclue Notebook Consultant

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    Not so. I use music recording software that requires streaming from the hardrive typical file sizes are 1GB-5GB. With OSX I am able to turn off that functionality and I always place the laptop on a flat surface when I am doing anything that is streaming. With windows you can get tools to shut it off. But of course if you are going to move it around you should always turn it back on. But yes, absolutely Vibrations can cause serious performance degredation as the head gets parked for a few milliseconds at a time. This is a big issue in the recording industry for those of that use laptops.

    So I would say that if whether it is straight or tilted make sure it does not flex at all as this can cause the drive to degrade performance.
     
  24. jkang87

    jkang87 Newbie

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    Sorry, but most of you guys have got the M15x all wrong. The reason a cooling fan is downclocking the laptop is because of how the ventilation and airflow is set up on the computer itself. The M15x sucks in air from the bottom and releases it out the vents in the back. When you put a fan on the bottom of the laptop you're effectively removing air that the M15x is trying to intake. MOST laptops vent the air out through the bottom, so pretty much all the cooling fans for laptops are made to accomodate that. So putting a fan under your M15x is counterproductive, unless you can perhaps reverse the fans so it is pumping cool air up and into the bottom of the laptop.
     
  25. SAUCE

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    im confused i thout that with these notbooks since the vents are out the back and not the bottom that you did not need a cooler ?

    should i get a cooler ? and when you are all talking abou the brand and model coolers you have can someone send me some links to what is good and what is not good so i can see them
     
  27. inap

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    The best cooler for the M15x is the 9 cell battery, it lefts the bottom up so the air flow more free. cuz it already run super cool.
     
  28. joeaux

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    Uh look, you don't need a cooler of any kind for the AP M15x. Nada. I've had mine since the 2nd of January. Played on it a lot (for hours) and it just doesn't get hot. Only slightly warm to the touch. This things built to be cool and it works. It's the absolute coolest running uber-powerful laptop I've ever used. Much cooler than any of the MacBook Pros I've got (or used). I'm like a couple of the other guys on this thread; just dont' block the air inlets or outlets and this thing runs very, very cool IMO.
     
  29. zad78

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    Well, i do concur...hence tilting the m15x by putting it on a laptop cooler should not be an issue.
     
  30. zad78

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    Well, there are two coolers that i know of tht pumps air out i.e nzxt cryo lx and zalman nc2000....