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    Can somebody please explain Solid State Drives to me?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Gunsmith_Cat, Jun 25, 2008.

  1. Gunsmith_Cat

    Gunsmith_Cat Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm just a bit confused as to the low GB figure on Alienware's UK customization page. It states that it is only 60GB, yet SSD is supposed to be the BEST Hard Drive you can have. Why only give us 60GB storage? Does it have some kind of magic condensing and compacting technology?

    I've read a little about it being more rugged and able to handle being dropped and survive lots of travel. Don't normal hard drives do that?
     
  2. De@thknight

    De@thknight Notebook Consultant

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    I believe it gives very fast read / write speeds and because of this is very expensive and so large ones aren't usually made because not many can afford the price tag on them.
     
  3. exiled

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    SSD are flash based hard drives. they have no moving parts. the access times are also alot faster. the only thing slower in ssd are the write times. flash technology is still pretty new so thats why we have such low amounts of memory for now. give it a couple years. we will see 500 gig ssds eventually.

    it is more durable because there are no moving parts. if the disk in a hard drive has a little scratch on it, i think you will lose all the data.
     
  4. Gunsmith_Cat

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    Ah, that's excellent, thanks guys. I think I will be passing on an SSD then. I'll be going with the 320GB 7200rpm SATA for now.
     
  5. De@thknight

    De@thknight Notebook Consultant

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    You ordering u m15x now then or just contemplating? :p
     
  6. Callidor

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    Good call. It's a neat technology, but at this point its just too new and consequently much too expensive to be worth it in my opinion..unless you simply need and ultra-portable laptop; and i don't think that's the case for anyone.
     
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    yes the only reason its so expensive now is because companies have to make back some money from research. RND is very expensive, thats why new products cost alot when they first come out. eventually they come down in price. back when the first 64 gig ssd came out it was $1000. Now its around $500. just give it a couple of years for it to become affordable.
     
  8. Gunsmith_Cat

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    Just waiting on a couple of other reviews of the M15x before I commit to making a new order, Deathknight. :)
     
  9. starstreak

    starstreak Notebook Deity

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    SSD come in different grades too. There are some now capable of over 200mb/sec read/writes. But I'm not Bill Gates to buy one. :) The smaller 32-64GB drives vary alot when it comes to speed so be careful which one you get.
     
  10. Friar_Tuck

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    Solid state drives are too young to be practical or affordable yet, IMO. Reminds me of when DVD players were first out, and cost $1000+

    In a few years, they'll be more prevalant, faster, and of greater capacity. For now, they're too new and WAY too expensive for the capacity you get. Unless, as Starstreak mentioned, you're Bill Gates or someone who just has tons of excess cash to throw around. Someone over on the Clevo forum has configured a Blackhawk (Sager 9262) with 3 64gb SSDs in a RAID 0 array - for upwards of $13,000. Holy CRAP!
     
  11. Kaiserphoenix

    Kaiserphoenix Notebook Evangelist

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    I disagree that "SSDs nore not practical.

    Yes they are expensive and depending on who you are, it will either be affordable or too expensive.

    It is also true that not all SSDs are the same. Different brands makes a difference. If you were contemplating ordering one, I would suggest you do your research and order the M15X without it and then buy the best SSD your self and install it yourself since I doubt AW will provide you with the best one like OCZs SATAII 64GB which is very fast.

    I personally use the SSD in my desktop, called the M-TRON 7000 PRO which is one of the fastest SSD in the world. I use it in a RAID 0 configuration for further speed and whoever says its not worth it, obviously hasnt tried it.

    Yes its expensive, but once you use it, its totally amazing. COD4 maps open in less then 2 seconds and Crysis takes around 3 seconds. Also the boot time is greatly reduced as well, switch on the computer and once u get passed log in, everything works instantly, no loading in the background etcetc.

    On top of that, you get ZERO noise and less HEAT plus LESS energy consumption.

    It is the way of the future, yes its expensive now and will come down dramatically in price but if you want the best, go with the best, Im not going back LOL
     
  12. Tyrien

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    Yea once SSD can be 120~300GB without doubling retail value of the machine you're putting in they're not worth opting for unless you like to throw away money.
     
  13. Kaiserphoenix

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    Well it depends on what you mean by "worth it". If you mean Bang for buck, yes, its seriously not worth it.

    If you mean fastest possible best technology possible today right now, yes for me its worth it.
     
  14. Friar_Tuck

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    Well, I'll agree that it may be the way of the future, Kaiser... but in the present, I can't afford the future! But when the prices come down, I'm sure I'll take that step.
     
  15. Nirvana

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    lol............
     
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    I had a chance to pick up a refurb XPS M1730 with a 64MB SSD boot drive and 200gig secondary drive for about $3000 even. However, I decided to pass on the deal since flash memory has a much lower re-write limit when compared to conventional HD's before going bad. Still, a 140-year mtbf is something else to consider, so long as you avoid frequent defrags :)
     
  17. maceto

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    click on AW'slink on the configpage- says their ssd's are 80 write and 100 read, combine that with a bay hdd and a bay battery you're good to go, but so are your money
     
  18. AtolSammeek

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    Here where I think a solid state drive would be good for. Rugged Notebooks. Where you are climbing, camping, hunting and so on where extremely harsh or punishing environments where magnetic storage hard disk cannot survive.

    Untel then magnetic storage will win hands down by price and preformance.
     
  19. maceto

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    Performance even, and no it does not, google for ssd vs hdd and see what youtube etc turns up,you can see like for like dells to mac's booted side by side, apps started side by side, ssd wins by far- I am getting one, yes it costs but trust me my new laptop will have ssd as I consider this to be the slowest component in alaptop for what I use it for.
     
  20. AtolSammeek

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    Please read on Flash drives and such. they will only last 5 years. So youtube you lose. Plus the cost ssd vs Storage of a hard drives. The hard drive win hands down in speed and space How long they are used.

    I look at SSD as a differnt type of USB Flash drives. Do they have the same limitations like a USB drive? Do they use the basics of the same memory.

    This is what stop me from buying this new Tech. What is the life of a solid State Drive? Is it like a USB Flash drive where it last 5 years and dies? Is this basicly the same Tech.

    So please do your research.

    The only use I see a solid state drive is in notebooks that have to stand being hit and d drops and such.

    I see people that buy the newest tech and they end up wasting money in the long run. The best idea is sit down research and understand.
     
  21. maceto

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    I see you know what you are talking about.....

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=208242
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=176076
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=163144

    as you're into reading and doing research, read that and get back to me
     
  22. Kaiserphoenix

    Kaiserphoenix Notebook Evangelist

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