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    Cannot get 4850's to work in M17

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Marshall1975, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. Marshall1975

    Marshall1975 Notebook Consultant

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    Just got a pair of 4850's and after hours of trying am under the impression somethings not quite right. Cannot get a single driver right back from 9.0 to install in any way at all. I once have had the device manager show 2 4850's but never again after that one time.
    GPUZ shows that they are both there and windows 7 even at one point installed a basic early driver for them.
    Decided to revert back to Vista 64bit but am having the exact same problem. No driver will install.
    All I ever get now is device manager showing 2 x standard VGA adaptors and they both always have an exclamation mark on them. Any suggestions would be helpful.
     
  2. Larven

    Larven Notebook Guru

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    wow, that is weird, have you tried calling tech support? I really want to see some benches right now :D
     
  3. Marshall1975

    Marshall1975 Notebook Consultant

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    No not as yet due to the fact they wanted me to send them back lol
     
  4. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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  5. Marshall1975

    Marshall1975 Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks buddy I shall give it a go now and let you know shortly
     
  6. WaR

    WaR Notebook Virtuoso

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    It's been only 7 minutes since your last post but I can't wait to see what's up with these cards.

    *waiting*
     
  7. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I sort of figured the same thing....now it has been like 9 minutes, we need updates!
     
  8. Marshall1975

    Marshall1975 Notebook Consultant

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    Lol its just finnished downloading. Nearly there lads
     
  9. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    You are so damn lucky that you got them. :p

    I still think they will (eventually) release them though, especially because they still offer the 4850s for new systems.
     
  10. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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    If you are unsucessful, i could upload the 8.56 ones that came default with my 4850? They arent the best but to get your cards to work it may just work.
     
  11. Marshall1975

    Marshall1975 Notebook Consultant

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    Well just tried the OCZ 8.55 ones and no joy. They install the Audio driver then say completed.
     
  12. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Dam. See if there is any link in the AW website for the newer cards?

    Also try flashing to the most recent AW BIOS as this may be needed for compatibility.
     
  13. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    Are you sure you're Mobility Modding them? (Hey, I'm just making sure. :p)
     
  14. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    The OCZ drivers are mobility drivers specifically.
     
  15. Larven

    Larven Notebook Guru

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    Send the cards to me, I can test them for you :p
     
  16. catacylsm

    catacylsm Notebook Prophet

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  18. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Wow.....maybe AW really did have a reason for not sending them out, they don't work yet haha
     
  19. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    Yeahhhhh :p so did you try out the above?
     
  20. nacr05

    nacr05 Extreme Overclocker

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    Do your 4850's have the HE tab on them???
     
  21. CooLMinE

    CooLMinE Notebook Deity

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    Mobility modder doesnt support 4xxx series yet. For drivers either get the official Windows 7 ones or the AW ones. Modding wont work.
     
  22. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Couldnt he use a set from the MSI cards ?.
     
  23. cookinwitdiesel

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    On my W90 those would only install the CCC and not the drivers themselves.
     
  25. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    The ATI drivers? I posted link to the 9.7, but I got the 9.6 and they work fine on my whitebook (although it has 3870s)

    OP: Have you tried the W90 drivers yet?
     
  26. Quadzilla

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    Yes but i was speaking under Vista64 and they were the 9.6s at the time . I am assuming Marshall is running Vista ?.

    I was going to suggest the W90 drivers but those are modded with the 4870s in mind so more then likely different Strings .

    MSI drivers though should be identical i would think.
     
  27. cookinwitdiesel

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    Well if he IS running windows 7, ATI directly supports the mobility parts themselves.
     
  28. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yes thats the part i was uncertain of but your right if he is then he is all set :D.
     
  29. Marshall1975

    Marshall1975 Notebook Consultant

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    Tried that one but still just get the message that the best driver is already installed. Also I did put the newest AW bios back on. Running out of ideas now I think.
     
  30. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Did you try the MSI 4850 driver ? . Go into there forums in the owners lounge for the GT725 i think is the name and there should be a link somewhere in there for the drivers .
     
  31. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    thats interesting as one of the "excuses" an aw tech gave me was driver problems.

    perhaps it wasnt an excuse?
     
  32. EviLCorsaiR

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    This could actually be a good point. What drivers is the Asus W90 running? If you could somehow get those drivers it may work.
     
  33. Pman

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    well it just made me wonder, perhaps the guys at AW were having problems with thier driver

    they did mention to me the AW driver wasnt ready and they couldnt support any "alternative driver if we could even get it to work"

    kinda makes me think they knew this was coming
     
  34. EviLCorsaiR

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    So basically right now we're just waiting for them to come up with a driver?
     
  35. Pman

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    well its making more sense now then before

    i mean they could have just been saying about drivers, but in light of this it kinda adds abit of wieght to it

    plus is also might indicate these are not normal 4850's
     
  36. electrosoft

    electrosoft Perpetualist Matrixist

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    Did you try just running with one 4850 and proceeding from there before moving onto Xfire?

    Can you take some pics of the cards front and back?
     
  37. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    there will be a driver out as soon mas the first system ships with 4850's


    i have most of the catalyst in my m17 driver thread.....

    also you proably will have to add the ID strings manually
     
  38. cookinwitdiesel

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    The OCZ m98 drivers should need NO modding as they had these specifically for these cards for when flex sent them to ocz do distribute. Unfortunately that just never happened.
     
  39. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    lets all pray they are not like the Asus w90p :mad:
     
  40. Pman

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    you mean where you can only use the Asus drivers :p
     
  41. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    no where it takes 5 people and 1 month to mod the drivers to get them to work


    WAIT can you get the 4850 BIOS off each card? if you can do that it would be GREAT

    i would load them up in a BIOS editor and check out the cards
     
  42. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    sorry on a whim try the Asus w90p drivers ..... just curious if they used the same setup and it could explain why your having toruble
     
  43. Pman

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    we know the cards are not identical, we dont know that it is possible to use anything other then the aw drivers that havent been released yet. as apparently marshall has tried them all :(
     
  44. The_Moo™

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    driver is a driver .... unless AW modified the VBIOS drivers should work ..

    try going back to win 7 ... get that driver installed then try to install other drivers
     
  45. Pman

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    the way AW has been tinkering latley nothing would suprise me
     
  46. Phinagle

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    Ya thats what I was thinking phinagle. If any, I would expect THOSE to work!
     
  49. Alexrose1uk

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    Hi there guys, just seen this after the late shift. As soon as my laptop arrives, I'll see what drivers are on it; I'd also be happy to get a BIOS copy using GPU-Z for you guys if you want to inspect it. I highly doubt these are massively BIOS tweaked; what COULD be causing issues with drivers is that all current release m4850s have been 512MB variants as far as I know; these new ones have 1GB, and may have a newer BIOS with a different ID string; hence the current mobility modder and drivers not picking them up.

    Once we can check them out; we ought to be able to get this fixed; possibly even if for now we have to do manual driver installs; it's not like the CCC needs instant updating every month; and I don't like being at any manufacturers behest, beyond the card manufacturers.
     
  50. The_Moo™

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    don't worry the forums have a few good driver editors :p
     
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