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    Crysis on M17

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by Chefchenko, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. Chefchenko

    Chefchenko Notebook Guru

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    Got an issue with it.... just installed, playing the very first sequences (what seem to be training), got to a save point and it crashed. started crysis up again, loaded the auto save, crash..... repeat previous steps 4 times with same result. look for help on interweb, found lots of stuff but nothing that seemed to be what i am dealing with.

    anyone here experienced this? any pointers to help me solve it.

    much obliged.
     
  2. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

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    I haven't seen this problem, but I'm curious which graphics drivers you are using. Also, do you have the AI (advanced interface) enabled in your CCC?

    Hopefully you'll egt to the bottom of this because the M17 is more than capable of playing Crysis very well. I've got the X9100 and have everything maxed out accept for shadows which are only on high. Very fluid gameplay.
     
  3. Chefchenko

    Chefchenko Notebook Guru

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    i think i'm using e-wreckeds 9,1 drivers.... as for CCC it wont open!

    just tried loading the game again, exact same problem.... maybe 3 secs of "game play" then crashed to windows.... though i did notice a little info jobbie pop up from the windows bar saying an ati driver had failed.... guess i i'll do a clean install and start again.... should i upgrade from 9.1?
     
  4. TurbodTalon

    TurbodTalon Notebook Virtuoso

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    If CCC won't open, and the bubble saying the driver has failed, I would do a clean re-installation of the driver.
     
  5. TurbodTalon

    TurbodTalon Notebook Virtuoso

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    I tried these exact settings, and I get around 13fps. During firefights, I get around 10fps. What res are you running at?

    I have been running in DX9 mode, all settings on HIGH, getting around 32fps at 1920x1200. Even when I use the hack to run VERY HIGH settings in DX9 mode, the game is too sluggish to enjoy.
     
  6. Morgotth

    Morgotth Notebook Evangelist

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    its probably like 1024x768, because I know someone with an m1730 with dual 8800m GTX's that runs it on all very high with the resolution set at 1024x768. You really dont need the resolution that high on a laptop anyways, it looks great at all very high with the resolution set at 1024x768, plus it runs smoothly even during firefights.
     
  7. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

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    Make sure you uninstall your current drivers and then use driversweeper to get rid of all traces and restart before installing the new drivers. You may already be doing that. BTW I'm using E's 9.1 drivers.
     
  8. Rob41

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    I averaged 25fps dropping to 18 in extreme fire fights at 1440x900. Gameplay remains fluid without ant hiccups.

    I had to just run it again cause I usually don't care about fps. All I really look at is getting the highest settings I can without any problems.

    EDIT: FYI, I use Vista 64bit and DX10. Not sure, but from what I've read, Crysis doesn't utilize four cores. Check on this though.
     
  9. Chefchenko

    Chefchenko Notebook Guru

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    been trying to install the 9.3 drivers with no avail.... going back to 9.1 and try that.
     
  10. Chefchenko

    Chefchenko Notebook Guru

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    all installed, nice and clean 9.1 with CCC working. gotta dash out now but will check back later tonight when i have had a chance to see if the fresh install made any difference to my problem

    cheers now
     
  11. Rob41

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    Good luck!

    Let us know how it works out for you.
     
  12. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    go to the file and lauch the 32 bit version. the 64 bit is buggy.
     
  13. Rob41

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    What kind of problems are making 64bit buggy? I haven't had any problems with the 64bit version but would like to know what to look for in case I do.
     
  14. Tkresila

    Tkresila Notebook Enthusiast

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    E-Wrecked's 9.1's are nice but after I mobmodded the 9.4's and installed them I saw a substantial performance increase in Far Cry 2 running in DX 10 mode. I'm downloading the crysis demo now and I'll see how well it runs with these drivers.

    I'd highly recommend everyone mobmod them yourself and use the 9.4's!
     
  15. Rob41

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    Let us know how it goes. I might have to give it a try.
     
  16. Chefchenko

    Chefchenko Notebook Guru

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    Just got back in... ran crysis 3 times now with fresh 9.1 driver and works a treat... i also have CCC back which is nice.

    Tkresila... since i am well out of my depth as it is.... any chance you could upload your mobmodded 9.4 drivers for us to have a play with.

    cheers now
     
  17. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    post benchmarks high and very high

    and the x64 version always closed out on me. so i use the x86 crysis.
     
  18. TwoBall McSticks

    TwoBall McSticks Notebook Geek

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    Chefchenko, glad to hear things worked out. Have you tried out the Luxus Silentium mod yet?

    While it might not seem like it, the 1920x1200 screen has nearly twice as many pixels as the 1440x900. I know it's not as simple as this, but all other components being equal, half the pixels should work out to about twice the fps.
     
  19. Chefchenko

    Chefchenko Notebook Guru

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    crysis warhead seem to be running well now so chuffed with that.

    Twoballs, just used the luxus mod and was not impressed at first.... but after 10 mins of play i got used to it. seems to make the game alittle darker and less computery if you know what i mean... so it actually looked more realistic, this is what needs to begotten used to. overall quite impressed
     
  20. Snowm0bile

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    I read on Toms Hardware that Crysis runs best one quadcore/64bit pcs?

    The article is kinda outdated though, so Im not positive about this...

    I think it uses more of the GPUs though...so maybe overclocking the GPUs would make the game work better, instead of quadcore? It would be nice if there was some sort of patch that made it use all the cores though. Because Im sure if it used all the cores it would run a lot better, since it bottlenecks 2 cores in some cases...Im not sure how that works though. lol

    I havent played Crysis in oh, about a year, which was on my old desktop that had dual core and 9800gt. I could only run it on med settings. So I cant wait to see how it runs on my M17 when it arrives. :)
     
  21. CodeNotGames

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    Depending on how the game engine was architected, it could take much more than a patch to make significant use of extra cores. It really depends on how the game utilizes threads.
     
  22. dondadah88

    dondadah88 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    normal crysis is a nvidia game. it doesnt support crossfire. benchmark in sig. so the quad core wont help performance at all. it might even hurt it. why with my t9400 and a single ati card i got 17fps average. and my with my quad and dual core i get 14fps. i had some driver issue at the time with my quad and crossfire. i will try to post some benchmarks tonight. and with my quad stock at 3.06 and 3.2, i never got no higher.

    this was at very high setting. at high i get 20fps. but dont be mad nvidia and crytek made it purposly for it not to plau great on ati cards. i have to find the link. (i think when aa is on.)
     
  23. Tkresila

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    Okay, I gave the "pre-release" demo a try and granted things probably were better optimized in the final game I found it to run pretty well under all "High Settings" at 1440x900. When boosting it to Very High the performance collapsed.. Granted I only have a P8600 and Windows Vista 32bit so others may see better performance with faster processors and more memory. Also as dondadah88 mentioned the game is better optimized for Nvidia cards. Again this may have been a marketing scheme and I would imagine (and hope) that Crytek "fixed" the performance issues dealing with Ati cards. Whether or not it support Crossfire or not, I'm not sure but I expected better performance personally.

    Again keep in mind I only played the demo which was labeled "pre-release" I found the game to be playable on High settings though and it looked fantastic!

    As for uploading my mobmodded 9.4's. I'd love to, however bear in mind they're for 32bit Vista... sorry guys! I will take a look at modding the 64bit 9.4's for everyone however.
     
  24. Tkresila

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    Okay, I mobmodded the 64bit drivers and I'm currently uploading both of them. I'll post them in a separate thread. These unlike E-Wrecked's DO NOT have any performance mods, however they are the latest and greatest from ATi and I've found them to work better then the 9.1's anyway. I'll post them as soon as the upload is finished which should be an hour or so!
     
  25. MisterE

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    I was running 64bit Crysis demo (The same version as Tkresila, the "pre-release demo" from the official site), and was having awful problems. First off, at 1440x900 it was as jerky as a kid on acid at a rave. Didn't have the framerate displayed, but it was varied between 1 and maybe 18-20 (at the very best moments)... usually around 5-10fps though. I moved the res down to 1024x768 (or 800, forget the full #, my bad) and lowered the settings of everything down to low and the framerate was still pretty much the same, and would stall on that graphics screen for a minute or more when trying to change gfx options.

    However, here is where it really sucked. I tried playing the game 3 times, and running the benchmark.bat file with the demo, for the GPU, and each time I tried to quit the game or close it, it basically stalled my system. I even left and ran a few errands for 2 hours, thinking when I came back it should definitely be back at the normal vista 64bit desktop.

    I have an M17 with the crossfirex 3870s, quadcore 2.0ghz q9000, 2gb ram, and the 1440x900 lcd display, and am still running stock drivers and not OC'ing anything.

    First question: what in the world is causing the random freezing? Windows sidebar is disabled entirely, and I don't understand why it won't close the demo program without crashing my system.

    Second question: what drivers SHOULD I be running for most decent framerate on crysis with my system?

    Third question: Will any non OC'd M17 system (other than the q9300 or whatever the highest model cpu is) run crysis decently? Or will I have to OC to get playable framerate?


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    Looking through ATI's CCC logs, it looks like this error message occurred, not that I understand it at all...

    Faulting application crysis.exe, version 1.0.0.1, time stamp 0x4718b76d, faulting module atidxx64.dll, version 7.15.10.170, time stamp 0x493f3356, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x000000000000ecf7, process id 0x7fc, application start time 0x01c9c0b7efe8d676.
     
  26. Rob41

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    Any M17 will run Crysis decently. Graphics drivers don't usually impact the framerates by very much but can make the game with the same framerates more fluid which means "more playable".

    From what I've read, Crysis doesn't utilize four cores. Programs and games need to be optimized to make use of the extra cores.

    I have the X9100 dual core and without any overclocking I get very fluid performance and avarage around 30fps. That's at 1440x900 res. Everything set to very high accept for shadows which is at high.

    Everything is much more fluid and settings are higher now on my M17 Compared to my m9750.

    The stock A.W. drivers seem to be geared to provide good 3dmark06 scores. There are much better drivers for actual gameplay such as E's 9,1 drivers. There are several driver choices in these forums. I suggest you try them out and see what works best for you.

    Get the actual game and get better drivers and you will have a very good Crysis experience.
     
  27. MisterE

    MisterE Notebook Guru

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    Rob, can a 2.0ghz quad core processor such as my q9000 hack crysis with "playable" framerate, when encountering any enemy crossfire? It seems to run ok to playable at times in the jungles in the opening parts, but the first beach sequence basically reduces framerate to maybe 2-5fps. I thought the x9100 and q9000 were much closer, but your proc is 3.06ghz dual core. and that's quite a lot more firepower, proc-wise dual core restriction, than mine.


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    additionally: after installing the 9.4 mobmodded drivers, my system played crysis on the whole about the same, maybe slightly better if anything. Though this time it took about 5 minutes from the exit screen, but actually went back to the windows desktop, rather than just stalling on a blackscreen, so at least the crysis demo closed down -sorta- properly.