Dell offering Killer network card!!

Look on the site, Killer Wireless-N 1103! 2x2 and 3x3 on the big ones :/

The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

The Dell Online Store: Build Your System

also on the m18x and the m11x!


i ordered mine like a week ago, could i ask them to change the 6250 for it?

 

It won't hurt to try, i'd say the earlier the better

 

This card is really better compared to the 6250?

 

I put my order in for one since I am not going to be using Intel WiDi. I hope to get it soon

 

I don't think they have WiMax , If you need that functionality.

 

How different is this card in comparison to the Intel 6300 card? Is it better or about on par?

 

People buy the 6250 who don't really need the 6250. If you don't have a WiMax service provider, it's really a waste of money as a pure Wifi card. Better off with a 6205/6230/6300. Is the Killer better for Wifi? Yes. See below.

Technically they are fairly on par (assuming 1103 vs. 6300) as both are 3x3 dual band designs. Where the Killer excels though is in their software stack. What gives Killer the edge is their built in QoS as well their software application that lets you further refine QoS priorities. You could jack up priority for something like WoW or COD, and drop your torrent client down in priority, etc. Cool stuff.

 

i dont know about wireless performance but killer desktop nic are just a scam for money. cost me 70dollars and i dont see any difference except for the fact that it will only transfer at 100mbit no matter what i try, wont do gigabit and its not my router since the onboard nic does gigabit just fine.

 

I have one in my m11x r1, the range is a little less than my 6200 card, but the connection is more stable and the utility that comes with the card is great.

 

Could you explain this a bit more? I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to wireless cards and stuff.

From what I'm understanding, because of the Killer software, I can get into games quicker?

 

If latency/network-related lag is an issue that you have with your current wireless setup, then the Killer in theory could help you out. QoS (Quality of Service) lets you prioritize certain packets over other packets.

It's a very common network practice. Quality of service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not sure exactly what you mean by "get into games quicker" since that can imply a lot of different things. It won't help you skip ahead in a matchmaking queue if that's what you're implying. It might improve your games's responsiveness though as an action you take on your computer (i.e. shooting someone in a game) might get to the server faster with there being less latency/lag.

 

Scam and waste of money. These cards don't do anything you can't tell a $30 Intel 6300 chip to do.

 

I don't think its a scam rather than a "Ooh, new upgrade, moar download speed go up!" Where a cheaper Intel Card can do a similar job.

 

Pretty much. The Killer works as advertised. Is it worth an $80 upgrade? Eh... Would I take it over a less expensive Intel 6300? Also meh... Is Dell/Alienware screwing people over a bit by getting rid of any option in between a crappy base Centrino 1000 and the Killer? YUP.

 

Yeah, I had understood it to be that you'd be able to get faster through the matchmaking queue.

Nevertheless, a game's responsiveness being smoother is indeed a plus. I'll have to give the Killer a better look now.

 

QoS settings will only make a difference for you if you have other processes running in the background on your computer eating up network resources while you are playing a game. Otherwise, there are no gains to be had.

 

These cards aren't scams - at least, not the desktop ones. If you are into gaming at all, they are must have. I saw drops in pings from like 25-30 down to 5-6 after I installed the card. In competitive gaming (which I used to be majorly into on CS:S and WoW), ping drop can help you out big time. In CS:S especially, I was able to register kills faster, therefor allowing me to move on to the next kill/area.

 

I can confirm similar results using the mobile version (1102). Not only my ping dropped but also getting much smoother video calls (skype).

 

Doesn't the introduction of this Killer network card, and the elimination of the Intel 6300 mean that with the Killer card, you won't be able to utilize Intel My Wifi and Intel WiDi?

 

That does sound like a plausible/likely conclusion.

Trickle down effect is perhaps they are hoping to create more Wireless HD upgrade sales as well.

 

And the conclusion is based on...? Bigfoot wouldn't be so popular among gamers if they were producing scam. It's very easy to test and compare. I have done a few tests myself but you will of course consider my side as a biased one, so I encourage you to check gaming forums. The card itself isn't magical but combined with the software can greatly help in reducing ping/lag in online games by simple prioritizing of packets and blocking the unnecessary processes from using the channel. Even the lower end 1102 beats my 6300 in AA3 showing lower ping and less lag.

 

pre-ordered mine already, now the wait lol.
was about to order a 6300 recently too, changed my mind when i heard about this. a proper upgrade from my 5300 which doesn't seem to like wireless n on some routers. reverts to g speeds

 

Good to hear about improved video conferencing.

May have to reconsider the internal Wireless HD?

 

I just want to say that I have been going back and forth between my intel 6200 and my bigfoot 1102 cards. There is a really noticeable change in video streaming.... I cant get multiple video files to stream at the same time with the 6200, but I can perfectly with the 1102 card.

 

Are these cards available aftermarket? whats installiing a network card like on an R3?

 

i had the link somewhere, i found it on the m11x forum
here it is

 

Bah if it werent for $30 shipping it would be cheaper than dell's upgrade price.

thanks for digging up the product though, appreciate it!

 

I'd be buying it if it wasn't for the shipping

 

yeah fortnax shipping quote was ridiculous.

 

You can get these cards on ebay also, thats where I got mine from.

 

yep same!!!

 

Like I mentioned in the other thread, you can use your own shipper and pick it up if it saves you money. A few people tried and the best they managed to do is somewhere in the 22-26$ range with a lot of hassle involved.

If we were based in the US, the shipping cost would of course be lower

 

Are these KILLER card better than the Intel 6230 or 6300?

 

what is the differences from other cards?

 

Optimization for online gaming and video streaming. Lower pings, less lag , etc.

 

So they are better than both intel cards? Are they however more reliable?

 

Mine is much more reliable than my intel card (6200)

I have fewer drop outs and overall the connection is smoother. While playing bf2 I would get dropped from the server pretty often, not by punkbuster, just connection lost. Now with the bigfoot, never had a problem getting booted.

 

The cards have arrived! We will begin shipping tomorrow morning!

 

Do you have any evidence of this? Not trying to be an but unless your current card drops connections (Could also be the router) or something I'd bet there is no difference. Not directed to you but I'd love to see some actual statistics of how much it's better if it is better, not just it feels faster.

 

http://www.tentonhammer.com/reviews/bigfoot/wireless-n-1102
http://www.kitguru.net/networking/wireless-card/zardon/bigfoot-killer-wireless-n-1102-review/3/

 

Nice review, only problem is it doesn't say what card they compared it to in the tests. If it was a Intel 1000 then it's obviously going to obliterate it. I'm not doubting it's fast I know it isn't garbage, I'm just saying that I'd really like to see something like a Intel 6205 vs a Killer not a Killer vs a no name wifi module.

*Edit*
Even the second link you added shows it's faster than an "Intel card" but which one?

 

I posted another review which compares it directly to the comparable Intel card. Must have been editing my post while you were writing yours . I am sure there will be comparison reviews in a few months. these cards are new so it takes time as they are not available for sale besides through an OEM.

EDIT: I doubt they would skew the results in the favor of Bigfoot by using an Intel 1000.

 

Yea lol, so I'm guessing it's a intel 6205 or something?

 

^^^^ My guess it would be a 6200.

 

I also tested it vs 6300 and the results are similar. No Intel card has the advantage of auto prioritizing the packets by activity (online gaming vs windows updates download). Even though on paper the 6300 is 450mbs and the 1102 is 300 (1103 is 450) the main difference is not the bandwidth.

Yes, in theory you could tweak your router/firewall/os settings to get similar results in games and video streaming, but I wanna see how you will waste 5-10min every time you wish to play a certain game and then change the settings back, no to mention that certain tweaks are beyond the average joe's skills. And what if I have 10 online games or wish to receive and important video call immediately? That's what the killer for - dynamic prioritizing.

 

Great to hear!

 

People constantly say this, why? Does anyone ever go by what they see/feel anymore? Does everything have to be a benchmark?

You want numbers? How about this - when I had the Killer card installed into my desktop, I saw drops in ping of around 70% in every single game I played. In case you didn't know, ping is the main culprit of lag in online gaming. So yes, lower ping makes the game "look and feel better".

It is a great product, and people need to stop being so skeptical. New and better tech is always going to come out, anything is possible these days!

 

Do you guys think it is worth adding additional 90€ into this killercard or not? Otherwise i'll just go with the normal one

 

You can find it for less than that and have both the stock (6200) and the killer

 

Because benching is the only way to get a real measure of how much better it is. If I go down to my old stomping grounds where I used to race I'm sure there's plenty of kids with their moms hand me down civics that will explain to me that putting a POS no name cold air intake and a cherry bomb muffler made their civic fast n furious style fast even though they gained (hopefully) 1-2 hp at the most.

You telling me your ping dropped to your router by 70% would be a usable statistic for people, thanks for telling everyone it helps reassure everyone that the card is indeed worth the money. Random people saying it just feels "Faster" doesn't do much for me. "Fast" is an opinion and subjective, saying your ping dropped an average of 70% isn't it's a fact.

Besides why is it such a big deal that when someone says X is better than Y and I ask how they came to that conclusion you make such a big deal out of it? I'm sorry I want to know why something is better, and I never said the Killer card wasn't what everyone was portraying it as, I just asked if there was anything proving this.