Did I kill my m17?

Hi

I have a problem. I wanted to run some 3DMark06 benchmarks with 9.6 and so I killed some processes but than 3DMark06 didn't start benching and I had to reboot. I did so but than every 5-15sec after "back in Widnows" after booting I get this bluew screen



I have to say that I also did a big mistake ... I removed the battery during the m17 was running, I thought I switched it off (after 3DMark06 crashed) but it restarted ... and I just realiced it after a placed the m17 back on the cooler ... and than I was a bit shocked because I know how care you have to be with a notebook which is running.

Did I kill my m17?

 

You probably haven't killed it, it seems like a software problem, not a hardware problem.

However, it may require a hard drive formatting and complete reinstallation of Windows and everything else.

I hope you had everything backed up.

 

I think that only means you kapoopoo'd your windows install. (but i'm not an expert.) I'd google what the error messages say to see if there's any solutions without having to reinstall windows.

 

Could be a disk error, run CHKDSK, also it could be very likely that you have a bad stick of RAM.

 

Try booting in safe mode first, to let it reset, then restart and see if it fixes itself. Otherwise its most likely you turned something off you weren't supposed to. As Evil said, its probably a software thing, not a hardware thing.

 

KK thank you all!

I tryed safe mode and there I have no BSOD^^

So I'll try "CHKDSK"

Greetings
Julian

EDIT: I have dual boot and Vista is working fine *a bit happy*

 

I'm pretty sure it's a hardware thing guys, if CHKDSK comes up ok, try taking one slot of ram out at a time and see if it boots up with only one or the other installed.

Also have you just installed any new drivers? driver errors are also known to bring up bad pool calls.

 

It is software related. This is a given because you said you booted up Vista without issues. Just try to boot up, then mash F8 (just after passing POST). You should be able to select last known good configuration (for XP), this should solve any problems you have. If it doesn't, then try to boot into safe mode and then re-enable all services you disabled. If you can't remember the exact ones, just enable them all.

 

I only killed them in task manager ... I thought they would be all back after rebooting?

Greetings
Julian

 

Yeah it's not that, services disabled in the task manager will start up again at boot-up.

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/967776

says, and I quote: "This issue occurs because of a race condition.", say WHAT? haha anyway, i doubt you need the hotfix, its most likely just a software issue.

 

Ending programs and processes wont cause any BSOD's on boot since when you restart all those processes will start again. As for the battery i myself removed it a few times while the laptop was running so i doubt its that. Probably a software/hardware conflict. Hopefully it will start again normally on your next reboot.

 

Odd. Did you manage to get the LKGC item in the startup menu?

 

I'd think that too. But, that's besides the point. I'd revert to the last known good configuration as said above. Maybe you could try booting it in safe mode and performing a system restore back to an older configuration?

 

Do you still get the error each time you reboot ? Might be an one time thing.

 

It's not the "removing" it's more the "putting back on the cooler" ... like a smale "fall" that makes me think I killed it ...

I guess I'll have to do this

LKGC WHAT?

On the dual boot screen I can select "Speicherüberprüfung" which sounds for me something like this disc check command I did in the dos box.

I am just runing this "tool".

Greetings
Julian

 

1. See if you can get LKGC to fix the problem.
2. If that doesn't work, do you have an XP CD? You might be able to boot from it and have it fix your problems.
3. Try a system restore.
4. Re-install, back up any data from safe mode if possible.

^Last Known Good Configuration
http://www.geeksquadwiki.com/gsw/images/f/f4/Select_last_good.gif

Start by mashing F8 when your computer turns on (power on, NOT Windows start up) and don't stop until you get a screen that look similar to the one I linked.

 

every time I am IN WINDOWS 7 ... I can see Steam start up and stuff like that and than boom BOSD.

Greetings
Julian

 

Well it's not steam I have it on win7 and have no problems, did you try the things I told you to earlier in the thread?

 

I only have 3 different Safe Modes^^ and "normal" to select

Greetings
Julian

 

Hm, since things are starting up before it suddenly pops the bsod try disable all your "extra" services and startup programs, since you can enter the save mode it seems its a driver/software issue. So start troubleshooting from the startup programs then to services then move to drivers. If you dont want to system restore that is.

 

Run CHKDSK and check your RAM modules to rule those two things out first.

 

I ran this command? But the dos box just closed itself so I thought it was all right?

Greetings
Julian

 

Wouldn't a damaged ram also make Vista BOSD?

Greetings
Julian

 

Did you just install a new driver before this started happening, or make any hardware changes?

Also: http://service1.symantec.com/Support/powerquest.nsf/docid/2004066687571562

 

I am not sure ... but I think no. The newest thing on my m17 is AA3. I installed it via Steam 2? days ago and have still problems plaing online but this is an other topic^^ or not? I mean ... AA3 is buggy like hell

Greetings
Julian

AHH may be it's this! I changed becaus of AA3 more than some times my extra LCDs and Mous / G15 from m17 to gaming rig and back.

But as I normaly do when I have a BOSD I removed all extra stuff (except of the LAN cable)

 

Usually (atleast in my case) for CHKDSK command to actually work you need to restart so it can do the job in dos before windows start since a lot of files are locked while you are in windows.

 

It could be the AA3, I have it installed on Vista with no problems at all, but I don't have it installed on Win7, and I'm not sure about its compatibility.

 

Now why would a game have a conflict with windows booting ?

 

Yeah I posted a link back there for him about CHKDSK to help him out a bit.

 

Hard to tell, obviously it's not likely but you never know, it is possible it could be his steam install of AA3 that is causing this problem.

 

Strange ... now I am on W7 again "normal" and no BOSD as long I do nothing^^

There is a window: Windows is running after rebooting "suddently".

And the Windows "Speicherdiagnose" said no problems -.-

Some accounts are missing but only on Steam and Skype, ICQ is running again ...

Hm I'll just run something to see wheather it fixed itselfe rolf

Greetings
Julian

 

Yea, If its a "race" (lol) issue then it will probably stop by itself after 1 or 2 bsod's. After that point its probably something else.

Play a bit with it, do a few more restarts, if you dont get it again then its probably ok now.

 

I've seen similar screens once it was just windows needing reinstalled and twice it was me trying to update a driver for turbo memory. Good luck

 

Americas Army is still killing my PC but just as it does to 30% of the AA3 players

But no more BOSDs so far

THX 4 your help

Greetings
Julian

 

glad its working ok now mate, offer still stands mind

Pete

 

I had this with ram, ram blocks just failed one day (was on w7, but i couldnt boot into vista or w7, its good news to know yours has started running again )

 

OMG

Because AA3 freezed every time I tryed to play online, I installed it on my gaming desktop and wow it worked there. (30-40 of all players have this frees problem^^).

So I decided to deinstall and reinstall it on the m17 and so I did.

The result was, you may know => the same bluescreen the next time I booted

This time I just ran the "HD Space check" (I don't know how to call it^^) via BIOS, because of dualboot I have a "special screen" where I can also use "this tool". After running it, no more blue screen, but as the first time, the tool found no errors ... strange^^

For me AA3 is the bad guy but may be it's something else and so I will note spam in every thread that AA3 is crap
BTW I like that game

Greetings
Julian

 

hehe glad that things seem to be working out

 

OMG!!!!

thanks for the heads up

 

Year! It's always good to know "why" and "how to stop"

But it still sucks

Greetings
Julian

 

Maybe if you boot up slamming f8 and disable driver signing and restart on hardware error, this may stop it dead in its tracks, for good.

 

Sry for waking up the deads!

But I thought it might be helpfull for those who have this problem as well to see how I solved the problem. Sadly it's in german so when sb has dualboot W7 / Vista pls make a simmiliar screenshot

THX!



I selected "Windows-Speicherdiagnose" and than the m17 ran a diagnostic tool. After that my m17 work again

Greetings
Julian

 

if ALL else fails you can run a dban and just re-install vista. i'd only do that if it was your last option though.

 

Year but this is a 5min fix^^ and you don't loos something^^ so, I prefere this way

Greetings
Julian

 

did you get it???

 

It? What?

I had this problem (that's why I started this thread) and solved it, so I got it back to work

Greetings
Julian

 

yeah i was reading and about two pages in i skipped to the last page and i didn't see anything so i asked.

 

But I know sb who has a m17x (all power full) and installed for me Americas Army 3 and now he has the same problem as well^^ and ... he has no dual boot and as far as I know he tryed verything written here and nothing helped

Greetings
Julian