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    Do you think Alienware should add 3D support?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by joelhr, May 5, 2010.

  1. joelhr

    joelhr Notebook Consultant

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    Hey guys... do you think Alienware should add 3D support? The HP Envy 17 to be released May 19th has 3D support listed. It will be interesting to see if they actually implement it. I noticed that the ATI cards do have the support built in but the manufacturer has to supply drivers/glasses. I guess the only limitation on the m17x is the display.
     
  2. Heartache

    Heartache Notebook Consultant

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    If it was actually 3D, maybe. To me it's just blurry, 2.5D :p . Asus' attempt at a 3D laptop is apparently a huge debacle...
     
  3. Wiggy Fuzz

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    if you mean like an actual polarized 3d display, then nope.

    if it's a 120hz display, then i'd say bring it on :)

    i've tried anaglyph 3d. colours mess up what would otherwise be a nice idea. and the headaches.
     
  4. 5150Joker

    5150Joker Tech|Inferno

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    Anything that requires glasses sucks. I tried out the new Samsung 3D LCD TV's and wasn't the least bit impressed. Technology for 3D tech still has a long ways to go.
     
  5. s0ysauce45

    s0ysauce45 Notebook Evangelist

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    3D sucks in general, Especially when it come to movies. It detracts from the quality of movies being made and to me is a gimmick. The only 3D movie that really works is Avatar and the rest of them are just meant to sell tickets. I hope 3D gaming takes a different direction.
     
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    3D gaming even on a 24" monitor is quite lack lustre, that's why they are coming out with all those 3 monitor combos, 3D gaming on a small notebook screen would be fail.
     
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    At this point in 3D technology, I would rather have a multi-touch option instead.
     
  8. Mr Pras

    Mr Pras Hardware and systems

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    I'd like a 120Hz LCD whether or not it was for 3D.. Would be great..

    But I agree that a MultiTouch would be my choice.. Or even just Touch in general (oo er).

    Let's have a fingerprint reader too instead of the buggy face recognition stuff. (which can be bypassed with a photo anyway).
     
  9. lordqarlyn

    lordqarlyn Global Biz Consultant

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    If they did it right, that could be cool. Kinda hard to implement on a laptop and have come out the way the engineers intended. Plus software would have to be written (or rewritten) to support it.
     
  10. Jakkarus

    Jakkarus Notebook Consultant

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    I'll second that. I find it so distracting at the movies as well...
     
  11. simonmpoulton

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    Until we have holographic images no, I dont see any point in 3D on a 2d screen as it just wont work nicely!
     
  12. joelhr

    joelhr Notebook Consultant

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    glasses dont bother me at all... I love 3d... its da bomb! Definately on videogames!
     
  13. DenverESullivan

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    In my mind, this whole 3D thing is just a marketing gimic fueled mostly by nVidia and Samsung to push their TVs and graphics cards.

    Now that HDTV is out and GPUs are as fast as they are, they're struggling to find another niche to make early adopters (aka. 'us') upgrade so they make more money.

    Movie companies have tried 3D on and off since the 1950s... It's always flopped and received very limited acceptance. This too will flop.
     
  14. Joebarchuck

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    I voted yes but at the same time I believe the 3D technology available these days is very young and needs to mature.

    Our only options are 3D with some lenses to wear or screens that make your eyes believe there is 3D but there is no REAL 3D like projected holographic 3D.

    One day we will project live, color holographic videos and play games as if we were surrounded by them such as the holo deck of Star Trek. That is true 3D.
     
  15. Dwarf King

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    3D is not yet developed enough to be useful in our evil machines. What is so great about it anyway?
     
  16. joelhr

    joelhr Notebook Consultant

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    The ability to perceive depth perception! Definately would be a benefit in racing games.... ive heard resident evil 5 and left for dead in 3d is awesome!

    lol you may have to wait until your 80 for that kind of technology! Grandpa gamer! :p
     
  17. Joebarchuck

    Joebarchuck Notebook Virtuoso

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    I think it's closer to us than you think. Let's say 25 years...

    When that comes out, it's not so much the gaming community I am going to be in...
     
  18. CrazyPhuD

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    So I'll give you the opinion of someone who both owns a samsung 3D screen yet also understands a decent amount of the underlying technology.

    First would you want 3D in a laptop screen....likely never at least with the current technology. Why, 3D is most impressive and effective when it's immersive. The laptop screens we have are just far too small to be satisfying. I have the 55inch samsung and while the quality and effect is very good, bigger is better. But I will say I doubt the difference between 65inch and 55 inch will make much if any difference. when I mean big I mean huge. What you'd ideally want is a projector to display 3D on your entire wall or have something like old school VR glasses where the only thing you see is the 3d image so that it is totally immersive. Putting 3D in a 17 inch laptop is a complete waste of time and money. If you want 3D hook the laptop up to a big screen to get the full effect.

    I have been fairly impressed by the technology I've seen so far, yes it is still in it's infancy but reall 3D material is very good. When the right equipment is used. What you saw on avatar in the theaters is completely capable at home now with the new TV tech. The only advantage the theater has is a bigger screen for full immersion.

    Really you're not going to find a glasses free solution anytime in the near future that's moderately acceptable. Why Because yes they can create a glasses free TV, BUT you'd never want to use it, because it will be so restrictive in viewing angles that you likely wouldn't want it.

    Movies are interesting for 3d but only when using the proper equipment, ala avatar and not the abortion of a movie called clash of the titans. However some of the most interesting potential will be in 3D gaming. Again you'll need a big enough screen but really I can open up a much more immersive experience. From a HW point of view the system now needs to render two completely separate scenes, so if you have 120FPS in 2D you'd only have 60FPS in 3D. Still the potential is big.

    While this could be a fad, I doubt it long term, why? Avatar showed than when done right 3D can be very impressive, it really does immerse you in a different world, that 2D movies and games just really can't. Imagine how much more terrifying a survival horror game would be if the monsters we really coming at you?

    But ultimately we'll see, games are going to start to come online for the PS3 this summer and that will tell how much the uptake is...
     
  19. iaTa

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    How far do you sit from your TV? How far do you sit from your laptop? If you actually thought about it you would realise that your laptop screen can very easily fill more of your vision than your 50" TV.

    3D on laptops will take off in a huge way. Anyone that thinks "3D sucks, it's been tried a million times before" blatantly hasn't seen the latest technology for themselves, and it will only get better from here.

    I for one cannot wait. Are you sure the Envy 17 will have a 120Hz screen - reason I ask is there are no 120Hz 1080p laptop screens available yet.

    EDIT: I see the reference to 3D on HP's site here:

    http://www.shopping.hp.com/go/newfromhp?jumpid=re_r329_hpdirect_hho&aoid=35252

    Still not convinced though.
     
  20. joelhr

    joelhr Notebook Consultant

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    Im pretty doubtful that it is 3d capable... HP has made no mention of 3d glasses. Plus the service manual for the envy 17 is available and as you know with 3d shutter glasses it requires a IR sensor... the service manual makes no reference. Perhaps they are refering to 3d gaming rather than 3d shutter glasses. The only reference to 3D is on the web advertisement that you posted and rumors of course lol
     
  21. joelhr

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    Screen size is more relevant to the distance you are from the screen. As another member pointed out there really is no difference from a 50" screen and a laptop screen other than the position of distance you are from the screen. Obviously you wouldnt want a 17" screen if you are going to be sitting 10 feet away from it. As for shutter glass technology, it really isnt new tech... the only thing new about it is the resolution of the shutter glasses is now 1080p. 3D is not a fad... its here to stay... they have been develping it for years. As for 3D screens that do not use glasses its more of an issue of price per screen size... those panels will cost you $15-20 thousand for a 15" screen.