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    Does M17 support GDDR5 ?

    Discussion in 'Alienware' started by wHo0p3r, Jul 1, 2009.

  1. wHo0p3r

    wHo0p3r Notebook Consultant

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    Just as it says, I would also like to know how to know if a laptop does really support GDDR5

    Thanks in advance :)
     
  2. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    no one knows

    no one has anything to test it with
     
  3. Alienware-Armando

    Alienware-Armando Company Representative

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    Currently the m17 supports DDR3 only, there is no information regarding future changes.
     
  4. EviLCorsaiR

    EviLCorsaiR Asura

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    Aww, Armando. Couldn't you just let a hint about a graphics card upgrade slip? ;)
     
  5. MrButterBiscuits

    MrButterBiscuits ~Veritas Y Aequitas~

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    Well we know the 4870's with DDR5 are not being released for the M17 that's not to say there won't be, but you'll probably have to wait a bit...
     
  6. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    we dont know that at all
     
  7. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    i think armando was refering to ram....

    if its MXM 2.1 if will work ;)
     
  8. Ovrclck350

    Ovrclck350 Notebook Consultant

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    Rephrase what you are trying to ask.

    If you're asking if the M17 currently USES GDDR5, then the answer is No. The ATI3870's use GDDR3.

    If you're asking if the M17 supports GDDR5, then the answer would be Yes, assuming that they ever release a graphics card in the correct format for it. Unfortunately, there's no word if that will happen, and it's near impossible to acquire some ATI4870's or 4850's to test it out.

    If I actually were into heavy gaming, I wouldn't mind trying it out, as there isn't any reason that I can see that it wouldn't work.
     
  9. wHo0p3r

    wHo0p3r Notebook Consultant

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    I was asking about the second answer of yours, as I already know that the 3870 X@2 uses GDDR3 not 5.
    I was wondering though if the Mobility ATi 4860 X2 might come up to the M17 or maybe GTS 260, since they have GDDR5 support and 40nm so they produce less heat, so they might fit good into the mobo( since it's MXM 2 I think), and they'll have a better performance than the 3870 X2.
     
  10. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    you can't have SLI in the m17 only 1 Nvidia card
     
  11. Pman

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    and no single nvida card comes near the 3870s
     
  12. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    A overclocked 280m gtx will about -10% and actually better in some games
     
  13. Ovrclck350

    Ovrclck350 Notebook Consultant

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    Correct, yes the 4860 (or even the 4850/4870)'s would be better.

    The problem is that it seems that Alienware has abandoned that idea for now and you'd be hard pressed to actually find some to purchase at a reasonable price.

    I would be willing to bet money that they will eventually be released, however, I imagine it'll be a year or so before they will. They're going to push the M17x right now as their profit margin should be higher on it than it is on the M17. Then in a year or so, they'll probably announce the upgrades for the M17 to be available. The problem then is that by then, the 4870 won't be anything special.

    Moo is right, the M17 doesn't support SLI, but you'd be ok with one card. If there does come a single Nvidia card that outperforms you should be able to upgrade to that.




    As an aside, your best bet if you're wanting an M17 and something better than the 3870's is to find someone on here who you would trust with an M17x, and wait until the 4870's are offered for the M17x. When they do come out, arrange for that person to purchase the cards directly from Alienware and sell them to you.
     
  14. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    the last Nvidia card to fit will be the 280m GTX and as i listed before is nice ;)
     
  15. wHo0p3r

    wHo0p3r Notebook Consultant

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    I dunno why but each time I think about notebooks I get a headache XD
    Good complicated industry.

    Yeah, but the 4850's and 70's has proved to have issues with the M17.

    That's what I was mistaken for, if the M17 had supported SLI then GTS 260' s would be a good option as well, but they don't....
     
  16. Ovrclck350

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    The 4850's haven't that I know of, and the only issue that we've heard anything about on the 4870's was heat.
     
  17. Rob41

    Rob41 Team Pirate Control

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    I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for upgrades to the M17. IMO, weve seen everything the M17 has to offer. That's not too shabby really. :p
     
  18. wHo0p3r

    wHo0p3r Notebook Consultant

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    then why were the 4850's cancelled by Alienware ? :cool:
     
  19. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Because those were not for the m17 ;)

    and you just know everythign huh because you work @ alienware? :cool:
     
  20. wHo0p3r

    wHo0p3r Notebook Consultant

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    huh what who said so ? lol am 17 years old :D
     
  21. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    i have addressed this loads of times

    yes they were

    the order confirmed m17 NOT m17x.

    The rma number and even dhl pickup number was on my m17 customer number, the invoice QUOTED m17 NOT m17x

    they WERE without doubt on thier system for the m17, even z's source confirmed that as well
     
  22. The_Moo™

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    i know i have talked to Z im just saying there are 4850's DDR5 for the m17x as well, they may have said it then switched them to go in the M17x who knows ...(highly unikely since they are different MXM's ) but still

    and i have talked to Z alot ;)
    a long time ..... waiting ....
     
  23. Phinagle

    Phinagle Notebook Prophet

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    There may be GDDR5 4850s for the M17x. MAY...

    The sticker and review make it sound like there might be GDDR5 4850s but it's no where near definite so you got to leave room in your statements for them being GDDR3 4850.


    Personally I'd get a kick out of them to being GDDR5 4850s but I know better than to say they definitely will be. ;)
     
  24. Ovrclck350

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    I have no doubt they'll actually be released, it's when that's the issue.

    You have to think with business in mind.

    You're releasing a new laptop you claim and want to be the most powerful laptop around.

    Do you also, at the same time, release a video solution for a laptop you've had out that makes it just as powerful if not more so....or do you wait a while when sales start to level off on the flagship, and THEN release the solution for the other one (M17) AND release a more powerful solution for the flagship (4870's).
     
  25. The_Moo™

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    just like i said in the last thread......